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Author Topic: Wells Gardner 27" with Geforce 3 vs ArcadeVGA  (Read 1458 times)

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Wells Gardner 27" with Geforce 3 vs ArcadeVGA
« on: December 03, 2003, 01:11:37 am »
Hey guys I am going to purchase the Wells Gardner 27" 9200 monitor soon, my question is will the monitor be just as good running arcade games on a Geforce 3 as it would on an ArcadeVGA? I know that the new mame allows you to match game's refresh rate and stuff like that so will my gaming with a geforce 3 be just as close to the original arcade experience with the wells gardner?

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Re:Wells Gardner 27" with Geforce 3 vs ArcadeVGA
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2003, 01:02:48 am »
I just compared a GeForce4 and the ArcadeVGA on a WG D9200. At frist I thought I wasted my money on the arcadeVGA. But I had hardware stretching and a few other things still on in my mame.ini file that screwed it all up. I would really recommend the ArcadeVGA over the GeForce. The original games ran at very low res in comparison to todays cards, and the GeForce cant run at those low resolutions (that your D9200 will support). If you were to use your GeForce, you could only run it at 640x480 and 800x600 (at 60Hz). Kind of a waste... Even if you want to play windows games at the lower res the ArcadeVGA isnt too bad (its a Radeon 7000 chipset). Dont expect to play Doom III on it when it comes out, but the hi res pic isnt the clearest on the arcade monitors (which is what makes the old games look good, lots of blending).

Also, you can set it up so windows (if your going to run windows) will run 640x480 and 800x600 at 30kHz instead of 15kHz vertical refresh rate, so it wont be interlaced and all flickery. But when you run a game through mame thats a lower res, it clicks down to 15kHz and gives you the lower res.

Hope this helps some!

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Re:Wells Gardner 27" with Geforce 3 vs ArcadeVGA
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2003, 07:13:05 pm »
I'm still not understanding? I thought if i had mame option to match games khz rate the monitor would auto go down to a khz near it despite if im using a Geforce 3 or arcadeVGA?.
And with hardware stretch option selected would it give me full screen like the original arcade therefore making my screen fullscreen and look like the native resolution of the game (despite if im using Geforce 3 or ArcadeVga)? What is the advantage of the arcadeVGA over the geforce3?When it comes down to it will i see a difference between teh geoforce3 and hte arcadeVGA? Also as games come out that are better will the slower arcadeVGA card effect game performance? or does the cpu and ram matter more for game performance than video card? thanks guys

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Re:Wells Gardner 27" with Geforce 3 vs ArcadeVGA
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2003, 10:53:25 am »
You can use hardware stretching to emulate what the original screen looked like, but if its not a perfect ratio from the original resolution  (as in twice or 3 times the res exactly) some stretching will take place rather than just enlarging the display. This can affect the proportions on the screen. Like the new widescreen TV's. You can stretch the image of a regular picture to fit it, but everyone is a little fat looking. You can turn stretching off and I think you just set the aspect ratio to stay the same, here it will be centered and correct ratio, but just some wasted space on the sides sometimes. MAME does a pretty good job of giving you enough variables to make it look nice on a regular card, but I still like the 1 pixel on my screen = 1 pixel in the game.

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