Why do people keep saying the Wii U is struggling when it's currently winning?

[ChadTower]

Old games have their charms, but new ones are far superior.

Based on?

His desire to troll you.

[s_busby_uk]

Old games have their charms, but new ones are far superior.

This is a pointless argument - a) you can't argue with nostalgia and b) one man's trash is another man's treasure.


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[pbj]

Based on having played/owned damn near everything made in the last 30+ years?

I probably put a good 15-20 hours into Far Cry 3.  I like River Raid but I'd be hard pressed to play it 15 minutes.  I'm working on Assassin's Creed 4 right now and don't even want to contemplate how much time I've wasted on that game in 1 hour increments.

 

[hypernova]

I certainly couldn't spend 180+ hours like I did on Xenoblade on something like Frogger or Centipede, or even River Raid (which I do love).  It's funny, arcade games of old almost seem like the newer mobile platform games.  Meant for quick games and fun diversions.  Fortunately there's hundreds of good ones you're bound to enjoy, so it can add up.

[Slippyblade]

I'm working on Assassin's Creed 4 right now and don't even want to contemplate how much time I've wasted on that game in 1 hour increments.

Ugh.  I'm with ya there.  Working on collecting the chests/fragments on all the tiny islands scattered around.  Enjoying the game a lot so far.  Then again, I've been a fan of the series from the beginning.

[SavannahLion]

Old games have their charms, but new ones are far superior.

Based on?

Cars? 

[Warborg]

Based on having played/owned damn near everything made in the last 30+ years?

I probably put a good 15-20 hours into Far Cry 3.  I like River Raid but I'd be hard pressed to play it 15 minutes.  I'm working on Assassin's Creed 4 right now and don't even want to contemplate how much time I've wasted on that game in 1 hour increments.

 

So basically for the reason that ChatTower stated...  To troll...

[DaveMMR]

Meh, newer games are trying way too hard to be "movies" than actual games (me to screen: "That's interesting, but can I play now?") and are too preoccupied with making a game X amount of hours leading to unnecessary, not particularly fun padding. 

I'm generalizing and I already know of plenty of exceptions but I turn to the older games since I can fit more playing in smaller time allotments.

[ChadTower]

I have better things to do than blow 15 hours collecting widgets in random corners of a game just so my gamer tag can have a little icon next to it. 

[knave]

I don't think it's fair to equate hours played in a session with quality. Neither is it fair to compare pac-man with flappy bird.

The classics were designed to make you want to feed it quarters. Play time was really short if you messed up or just sucked. But could last longer as you gained in skill. Hopefully you wanted, just-one-more-go.

I don't knock the new AAA titles that suck in hours upon hours, they are fun or folks wouldn't loose 8 hours to them. Online games too... just look at WOW or any MMO.

But there are intros to some RPG's that are longer than a quick play at a arcade game. Quality is irrelevant. Play what you want.

[danny_galaga]

The cut scenes are great, and relevant in some games. They really make it, even if they are long. I did a rough add-up of the cut scenes in The Last of Us and it came to about 90 minutes! Longer than some movies. Each scene adds something to the game though, it never feels like a waste of time.

[ChadTower]

When all you have is 45 mins to get some gaming in a 15 minute cut scene is a complete waste of time. 

[Vigo]

When all you have is 45 mins to get some gaming in a 15 minute cut scene is a complete waste of time.

This is why I have a 3DS. Closest thing to playing modern games without endless cut scenes or even having to watch 3 minutes of pre-menu credits before being able to pick up a game. I just leave the 3DS on all the time, but close the lid.

[pbj]

You know, the 3DS and moreso the DS have been excellent consoles.  Can't say I've encountered many games with what I felt were excessive cinematic sequences.  Newer games will let you save at just about any time, so even the story-heavy ones work for short play sessions.

I couldn't take The Last of Us for more than 20 minutes.  Bored with the zombie thing and that game was just fake hard.  Those guys peaked with Uncharted 2.

[DaveMMR]

This is why I have a 3DS. Closest thing to playing modern games without endless cut scenes or even having to watch 3 minutes of pre-menu credits before being able to pick up a game. I just leave the 3DS on all the time, but close the lid.

You know, the 3DS and moreso the DS have been excellent consoles.  Can't say I've encountered many games with what I felt were excessive cinematic sequences.  Newer games will let you save at just about any time, so even the story-heavy ones work for short play sessions.

Yup. Totally agreed. The latest Zelda (Link Between Worlds) was probably the first one in a while in which I legitimately enjoyed every minute of it. I realized it was because I wasn't spending hours of playtime traversing a large landscape (or ocean) with little to do, wondering if I'm going the right way or all that travelling if for naught.

[ChadTower]

I have to admit over the last three years I have been more concerned with what else a console can do than I have been with the games.  Just don't have time, I guess, and I'm not interested in spending 15 hours learning to play a game that may take me a year to finish.

[danny_galaga]

When all you have is 45 mins to get some gaming in a 15 minute cut scene is a complete waste of time.

Horses for courses. I am a bachelor, and a slacker. For a good game, I'll MAKE time 

[Dawgz Rule]

There's always time for gaming in my household.  Then again, the kids are all out of the house so there may be some advantage there.

[Vigo]

Yup. Totally agreed. The latest Zelda (Link Between Worlds) was probably the first one in a while in which I legitimately enjoyed every minute of it. I realized it was because I wasn't spending hours of playtime traversing a large landscape (or ocean) with little to do, wondering if I'm going the right way or all that travelling if for naught.

I'll have to check that one out, then. Best advert for a Zelda game to me these days is not having to spend hours traveling. Wind Waker ruined a lot of the love I had for the series simply because of the travel.

[DaveMMR]

Yup. Totally agreed. The latest Zelda (Link Between Worlds) was probably the first one in a while in which I legitimately enjoyed every minute of it. I realized it was because I wasn't spending hours of playtime traversing a large landscape (or ocean) with little to do, wondering if I'm going the right way or all that travelling if for naught.

I'll have to check that one out, then. Best advert for a Zelda game to me these days is not having to spend hours traveling. Wind Waker ruined a lot of the love I had for the series simply because of the travel.

Yeah, fairly early on you are able to warp to any save point (also, most weapons are available all at once - you only 'rent' what you need for the dungeon you're tackling.) There's very little "waste" in the worlds as almost every screen seems to serve a purpose (whether it's just basic battle, Shadow Link appearances, 'links between worlds', one of the 100 collectible macguffins, etc.)

Everyone seems to love OOT and WW - but this one is my favorite for those reasons.

[pbj]

You can actually buy the items, too.  Rupees serve virtually no purpose in this game and it hands them out like candy, so I've actually purchased everything.

 

[Malenko]

You can actually buy the items, too.  Rupees serve virtually no purpose in this game and it hands them out like candy, so I've actually purchased everything.

 

yeah it didnt take much farming to buy everything without ever renting.

[DaveMMR]

You can actually buy the items, too.  Rupees serve virtually no purpose in this game and it hands them out like candy, so I've actually purchased everything.

 

That's my one complaint about the game - after you've purchased all the items (which, you'll do fairly quickly since, as you said, rupees are plentiful) there's practically no need to even bother with anymore money. It makes finding the optional dungeon chests rather anti-climactic. I've "maxed out" my wallet numerous times.