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Author Topic: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'  (Read 98740 times)

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #280 on: August 31, 2013, 10:20:21 pm »
Que? :dunno

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #281 on: September 01, 2013, 02:36:37 am »

I am convinced.  That is hella good PCB work.   :cheers:

If he pulls this off I might have to start hunting for a compatible tube myself.
Im still looking into why the 6100 yoke, Apparently this Dez designed this board to be compatible with it [for whatever reason], the Tv had a yoke the was designed to deflect that particular tube. My only guess so far is he wanted to change the resistance of the vertical [again for whatever reason]....I will agree with you however, Maximus is doing a nice job, and it does look fun. :P

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #282 on: September 03, 2013, 02:14:36 pm »

Having the monitor built isn't going to help at this point.  If the game PCB isn't booting then all you're going to get with the monitor is a spot killer anyway.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #283 on: September 03, 2013, 04:25:08 pm »
aye, no doubt it's not going to be as easy as that lol.

Still waiting on some 18 awg to arrive to build the HV/neckboard wiring harnesses but then I should be at the end of the construction phase of the electronics. After that I have to transfer the 6100 yoke to the tube and then it will all be ready to hook together.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #284 on: September 04, 2013, 12:31:37 am »
HV board, neck board and wiring harness complete.



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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #285 on: September 04, 2013, 12:54:04 am »
 :dunno :cry:

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #286 on: September 04, 2013, 06:00:17 am »
:dunno :cry:

It's OK. Just keep telling yourself its magic and Maximus is a wizard.  :D

Can't wait to see this fired up.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #287 on: September 04, 2013, 08:22:11 am »
It's OK. Just keep telling yourself its magic and Maximus is a wizard.  :D

Is that true, Joel?




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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #288 on: September 04, 2013, 08:38:01 am »
Well I do like fancy capes and sparkles.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #289 on: September 04, 2013, 09:30:58 am »

I need to get to work finding one of those televisions.


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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #290 on: September 04, 2013, 09:48:16 am »
That's something COMPLETELY different.  ;)

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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Well I do like fancy capes and sparkles.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #291 on: September 04, 2013, 10:10:45 am »
The magical 6100 yoke


Marked up the convergence rings orientation and position on the neck then carefully removed them along with the existing yoke


Put the 6100 yoke on in exactly the same place as the old yoke using the wedges as my position.  Then used my marks to put the Rings back


Getting closer to power on day

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #292 on: September 04, 2013, 10:30:02 am »
Dude, that is crazy awesome.  Hope it works without much fanfare, if you know what I mean.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #293 on: September 04, 2013, 02:03:21 pm »
Hope it works without much fanfare, if you know what I mean.

Yeah me too although I'm pretty sure I wont be that lucky. I don't even know if my SW board set works or not so there are a lot of unknowns to still overcome.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #294 on: September 04, 2013, 02:07:40 pm »

If the board set functions, and you're not in test mode, you should be able to coin up and play blind.  Note that this could still be the case with bad video output.  And you could have good boards, but a bad monitor, and that will look the same since both result in a spot killer on the monitor.

You would benefit GREATLY from a second working color atari vector boardset and a second working 6100 or amp.  That way you could test the parts independently.  Working on Atari vectors is a bucket of variables until you can verify either the boardset or the monitor actually works.



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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #295 on: September 04, 2013, 02:08:58 pm »
Yep. Anyone got a SW cab they wanna drop off at my house for a while? I'll only pull it to pieces a few times.  :dizzy:

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #296 on: September 04, 2013, 02:38:19 pm »
     Even the pros cant "eyeball" that convergence [even though some say they they can] ,at the very least Id invest in a tester,http://kleininstruments.com/gauges/convergence-gauge/ or take it to a  service shop for alignment when it is  working.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #297 on: September 04, 2013, 02:56:16 pm »

Good luck finding a TV repair shop that will do any more than offer to drill a hole in a CRT for you.


Any color Atari vector boardset would work if you have the harness too... yeah, yeah, I know, easier said than done... but not knowing if you have a board output problem or a monitor input problem, or possibly both, is a pretty big hurdle here.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #298 on: September 04, 2013, 02:58:00 pm »
Yep, well we'll see what explodes happens when I plug it in.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #299 on: September 04, 2013, 03:10:51 pm »

Good luck finding a TV repair shop that will do any more than offer to drill a hole in a CRT for you.


Any color Atari vector boardset would work if you have the harness too... yeah, yeah, I know, easier said than done... but not knowing if you have a board output problem or a monitor input problem, or possibly both, is a pretty big hurdle here.
You would be surprised how smart some of those old dudes are, They don't deal well with random questions however, Just the job at hand...
As for the boardset,  A dual trace scope will verify the fact the board is sending the XY signals.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #300 on: September 04, 2013, 03:44:21 pm »
You would be surprised how smart some of those old dudes are, They don't deal well with random questions however, Just the job at hand...


They don't exist anymore in most places.  All of the independent TV repair shops here are gone.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #301 on: September 05, 2013, 10:54:15 am »
Deflection harness done.


Only a few minor things to do now.  Hook up the degauss strip and DAG spring and get these boards mounted nicely.


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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #302 on: September 05, 2013, 04:09:52 pm »
You do some great work; your boards are very clean.

This thread is like the old time serials.  I'm getting anxious with anticipation as to what will happen next.   :)

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #303 on: September 06, 2013, 02:55:46 pm »
You would be surprised how smart some of those old dudes are, They don't deal well with random questions however, Just the job at hand...


They don't exist anymore in most places.  All of the independent TV repair shops here are gone.

I think my dad was the last in his area. They let him work way past any rational limit. Past 70, and was really doing little more than making coffee for the rest of the tv store in the morning, but if someone DID come in with a tube television, I'm betting he could repair it blind.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #304 on: September 14, 2013, 01:27:12 pm »
Assembly complete!


Ready to start doing voltage testing and HV configuration

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #305 on: September 14, 2013, 02:17:45 pm »
fingers crossed.  If that bad boy works trouble free you'll be crowned king of Vectorland.   :burgerking:

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #306 on: September 14, 2013, 02:45:38 pm »
If that bad boy works trouble free you'll be crowned king of Vectorland.




OH YEAH!!! OH YEAH!!!
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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #307 on: September 14, 2013, 11:54:05 pm »
I have a fluke 80K-40 HV probe coming from eBay so I can set the 19.5KV over voltage trip circuit, until that arrives I can't move forward much

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #308 on: September 16, 2013, 09:49:39 am »

Fingers crossed.  Ankles, too, if it helps.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #309 on: September 16, 2013, 11:08:07 am »
Well I do like fancy capes and sparkles.

Do you want to rephase that?   :laugh2:


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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #310 on: September 16, 2013, 11:09:26 am »

Fingers crossed.  Ankles, too, if it helps.
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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #311 on: September 20, 2013, 11:45:09 am »
Aaaaaand.....


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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #312 on: September 20, 2013, 11:50:49 am »
Aaaaaand.....

Spoiler alert: ".....we got nothin'. Nothin', nothin', nothin'."

Bloody L, I didn't know you had an accent.

:D

Good luck with the troubleshooting.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #313 on: September 20, 2013, 11:53:46 am »
Yep suspecting the deflection board at this point as it showed no spot killer and no beam

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #314 on: September 20, 2013, 12:19:17 pm »
Just part of the learning process. 

My philosophy is that I can do anything any professional can, but it will take me five times as long and I'll spend twice as much in parts.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #315 on: September 20, 2013, 12:28:31 pm »
Yeah.  He has about 8 of them.   :cheers:

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #316 on: September 20, 2013, 12:30:45 pm »
I adjusted the screen and focus pots on the focus block and got a good old white dot which makes me feel better,  at least the monitor is alive.

At this point I could be up against the obvious hurdle of a dead board set as I always suspected. I know all my voltages are correct at the power brick and the ar2 and I do have solid red lights on all game boards but no audio and no video signal points to this being a no boot board set at this point.

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #317 on: September 20, 2013, 01:40:03 pm »
      OMG....Jenn missed the big moment, I loved the big suspenseful way you turned the power on, [I may have actualy squealed noooo], Its close now, things rarely work right out of the box. :applaud:

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #318 on: September 20, 2013, 01:51:26 pm »
I adjusted the screen and focus pots on the focus block and got a good old white dot which makes me feel better,  at least the monitor is alive.


That's awesome.  Knowing me, my wife would come in the garage and just find a pile of ash where I once stood if I was working on that thing.

Good on ya, mate!

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Re: Scratch Build: Star Wars Cockpit 'Rebel Edition'
« Reply #319 on: September 20, 2013, 01:54:27 pm »
I managed to move the beam in both axis with the horizontal and vertical scale pots so that's a pretty good sign that the deflection board is okay. I have good neck glow on the tube and sharp focus thanks to the 6100 flyback focus block mod.

Looking very much like a dead game board right now which kind of kills my stride until I can find a suitable board to do more testing with
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