What are the settings for GM to use with an LCD, HLSL, LCD-Setup?

[Endprodukt]

So,

I want the advantages of GM for scrolling etc. while using HLSL on a LCD screen (it's for a bartop - no space for a crt this time). What's the way to setup GM for this? I have great HLSL settings,
I just need the GM basics for this.

Thanks in advance

[Calamity]

All you have to do is set the HLSL as usual, then:

monitor lcd
syncrefresh 1

Forcing -syncrefresh here makes all games run at 60 Hz (assuming a typical 60 Hz LCD). If you don't want this, i.e. keep games running at their native refresh if it's not close enough to 60 Hz, then leave -syncrefresh alone (default = 0), this will toggle either -syncrefresh or -triplebuffer depending on how close the native refresh is from 60 Hz. The threshold is controlled by the -syncrefresh_tolerance option (default = 0.2 Hz). Obviously, if you don't force -syncrefresh, you can expect scroll hiccups in games that don't run at 60 Hz, although you'll have no tearing.

The "monitor lcd" option also imposes that MAME will run everything at your current desktop resolution, which ideally equals your LCD's native resolution when you're using an LCD. I'm telling this because, quite often, users have to force MAME to pick a lower resolution than the native one in order to get HLSL run at full speed. If this is the case, then the "monitor lcd" is a bit of a problem, because it expects not to switch resolutions. What you have to do in this case is to lower the desktop resolution instead to the desired one for HLSL to work.

[Endprodukt]

I get pretty bad vertical and horizontal tearing with syncrefresh on or off - no matter. I'm testing this in Viewpoint which is 320x224 @ 59.19. My native resolution is 190x1080 @ 60.

It's not nearly as bad without HLSL, but still there. Any way to get this setup work without tearing?

[Calamity]

Make sure you're using 'video d3d' for your LCD. I'm testing Viewpoint here with GM 0.149 and it works perfectly smooth/no tearing.

[Endprodukt]

I'am using D3D. Here's my ini:

# # CORE CONFIGURATION OPTIONS # readconfig                1 writeconfig               0 # # CORE SEARCH PATH OPTIONS # rompath                   roms hashpath                  hash samplepath                samples artpath                   artwork ctrlrpath                 ctrlr inipath                   .;ini fontpath                  . cheatpath                 cheat crosshairpath             crosshair # # CORE OUTPUT DIRECTORY OPTIONS # cfg_directory             cfg nvram_directory           nvram memcard_directory         memcard input_directory           inp state_directory           sta snapshot_directory        snap diff_directory            diff comment_directory         comments # # CORE OUTPUT DIRECTORY OPTIONS # hiscore_directory         hi # # CORE STATE/PLAYBACK OPTIONS # state                      autosave                  0 playback                  record                    mngwrite                  aviwrite                  wavwrite                  snapname                  %g/%i snapsize                  auto snapview                  internal statename                 %g burnin                    0 # # CORE PERFORMANCE OPTIONS # autoframeskip             0 frameskip                 0 seconds_to_run            0 throttle                  1 syncrefresh               0 sleep                     1 speed                     1.0 refreshspeed              0 # # CORE ROTATION OPTIONS # rotate                    1 ror                       0 rol                       0 autoror                   0 autorol                   0 flipx                     0 flipy                     0 # # CORE ARTWORK OPTIONS # artwork_crop              0 use_backdrops             0 use_overlays              0 use_bezels                0 use_cpanels               0 use_marquees              0 # # CORE SCREEN OPTIONS # brightness                1.0 contrast                  1.0 gamma                     1.0 pause_brightness          0.65 effect                    none # # CORE VECTOR OPTIONS # antialias                 1 beam                      1.0 flicker                   0 # # CORE SOUND OPTIONS # sound                     1 samplerate                48000 samples                   1 volume                    0 # # CORE INPUT OPTIONS # coin_lockout              1 ctrlr                      mouse                     0 joystick                  0 lightgun                  0 multikeyboard             0 multimouse                0 steadykey                 0 ui_active                 0 offscreen_reload          0 joystick_map              auto joystick_deadzone         0.3 joystick_saturation       0.85 natural                   0 joystick_contradictory    0 coin_impulse              0 # # CORE INPUT AUTOMATIC ENABLE OPTIONS # paddle_device             keyboard adstick_device            keyboard pedal_device              keyboard dial_device               keyboard trackball_device          keyboard lightgun_device           keyboard positional_device         keyboard mouse_device              mouse # # CORE DEBUGGING OPTIONS # log                       0 verbose                   0 update_in_pause           0 debug                     0 debugscript                debug_internal            0 # # CORE MISC OPTIONS # bios                      cheat                     0 skip_gameinfo             0 uifont                    default ramsize                    confirm_quit              0 ui_mouse                  0 autoboot_command          autoboot_delay            2 autoboot_script            # # CORE MKChamp OPTIONS # disable_hiscore_patch     0 disable_nagscreen_patch   0 disable_loading_patch     0 # # CORE SWITCHRES OPTIONS # modeline                  1 monitor                   lcd orientation               horizontal connector                 auto interlace                 1 doublescan                1 cleanstretch              0 changeres                 1 powerstrip                0 lock_system_modes         1 lock_unsupported_modes    1 refresh_dont_care         0 dotclock_min              0 sync_refresh_tolerance    2.0 frame_delay               0 lcd_range                 auto crt_range0                auto crt_range1                auto crt_range2                auto crt_range3                auto crt_range4                auto crt_range5                auto crt_range6                auto crt_range7                auto crt_range8                auto crt_range9                auto # # WINDOWS DEBUGGING OPTIONS # oslog                     0 watchdog                  0 debugger_font             "Lucida Console" debugger_font_size        9 # # WINDOWS PERFORMANCE OPTIONS # priority                  0 multithreading            1 numprocessors             auto profile                   0 bench                     0 # # WINDOWS VIDEO OPTIONS # video                     d3d numscreens                1 window                    0 maximize                  1 keepaspect                0 prescale                  1 waitvsync                 0 menu                      0 # # DIRECTDRAW-SPECIFIC OPTIONS # hwstretch                 0 # # DIRECT3D-SPECIFIC OPTIONS # filter                    0 # # DIRECT3D POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS # hlsl_enable               0 hlslpath                  hlsl hlsl_ini_read             0 hlsl_ini_write            0 hlslini                   %g hlsl_prescale_x        0 hlsl_prescale_y        0 hlsl_preset           -1 hlsl_snap_width        1920 hlsl_snap_height       1440 shadow_mask_alpha      0.060 shadow_mask_texture    slotmask.png shadow_mask_x_count    320 shadow_mask_y_count    240 shadow_mask_usize      0.375000 shadow_mask_vsize      0.375000 curvature              0.04 pincushion             0.05 scanline_alpha         1.0 scanline_size          1.000000 scanline_height        1.00000 scanline_bright_scale  1.000000 scanline_bright_offset 0.000000 scanline_jitter        0.000000 defocus                0.00000, 0.00000 converge_x                0.2,0.0,0.0 converge_y                0.0,0.0,0.0 radial_converge_x         0.2,0.0,0.0 radial_converge_y         0.0,0.0,0.0 red_ratio                 0.85,0.15,0.0 grn_ratio                 -0.1,1.1,0.0 blu_ratio                 -0.075,0.0,1.075 saturation                1.00 offset                    -0.15,-0.18,-0.18 scale                     1.15,1.18,1.18 power                     1.0,0.8,0.7 floor                     0.0,0.0,0.0 phosphor_life             0.1,0.1,0.1 yiq_enable             0 yiq_cc                 3.600000 yiq_a                  0.500000 yiq_b                  0.500000 yiq_o                  0.000000 yiq_p                  1.000000 yiq_n                  1.000000 yiq_y                  6.000000 yiq_i                  1.200000 yiq_q                  0.600000 yiq_scan_time         52.600000 yiq_phase_count        2.000000 # # NTSC POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS # yiq_enable                0 yiq_cc                    3.59754545 yiq_a                     0.5 yiq_b                     0.5 yiq_o                     0.0 yiq_p                     1.0 yiq_n                     1.0 yiq_y                     6.0 yiq_i                     1.2 yiq_q                     0.6 yiq_scan_time             52.6 yiq_phase_count           2 # # VECTOR POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS # vector_length_scale       0.8 vector_length_ratio       500.0 # # BLOOM POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS # vector_bloom_scale        0.3 raster_bloom_scale        0.1 bloom_lvl0_weight         1.0 bloom_lvl1_weight         0.21 bloom_lvl2_weight         0.19 bloom_lvl3_weight         0.17 bloom_lvl4_weight         0.15 bloom_lvl5_weight         0.14 bloom_lvl6_weight         0.13 bloom_lvl7_weight         0.12 bloom_lvl8_weight         0.11 bloom_lvl9_weight         0.10 bloom_lvl10_weight        0.09 # # PER-WINDOW VIDEO OPTIONS # screen                    auto aspect                    auto resolution                auto view                      auto screen0                   auto aspect0                   auto resolution0               auto view0                     auto screen1                   auto aspect1                   auto resolution1               auto view1                     auto screen2                   auto aspect2                   auto resolution2               auto view2                     auto screen3                   auto aspect3                   auto resolution3               auto view3                     auto # # FULL SCREEN OPTIONS # triplebuffer              0 switchres                 1 full_screen_brightness    1.0 full_screen_contrast      1.0 full_screen_gamma         1.0 # # WINDOWS SOUND OPTIONS # audio_latency             2 # # INPUT DEVICE OPTIONS # dual_lightgun             0

Using the standard HLSL settings didn't make a difference.  I'm using a different PNG now and a different post.fx. Changing those back to normal didn't change anything. Also, I couldn't make a screenshot of the tearing. It simply isn't in the screenshot?

[Calamity]

May you post a log, I'm curious of what's going on there. What video card are you using?

[Calamity]

Ok I think this issue is related to the one I explained here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,128879.msg1367170.html#msg1367170

It's not really tearing, it's just a glitch due to scaling. However I can't make it disappear here by forcing lower -prescale values. It just stays whatever I do. This is when testing with an Intel card. Before I was testing with an ATI HD 6450 and it was flawless.

Interestingly this didn't happen in the previous intermediate version 0.148u5, so it must be something that has been modified in the middle.

[Endprodukt]

Okay, thanks. I'll try an older version.

[Endprodukt]

Same problem with 0.148 u5. Maybe it's related to the graphic driver? Attached a log of viewpoint. 

[Calamity]

Have you tried forcing -prescale to different values (1, 2, 3, etc.)? Do this from command line, not from the ini.