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Best Fighters
« on: June 18, 2013, 07:57:53 am »
I don't really play fighters so much myself but want to add a few for friends who I know like them and I expect will want to use my cabinet. I thought I'd keep this to better versions of the well known ones.

So, of the following what are the better versions to have for each? I might struggle with the 3D ones (Tekken 3) initially as my PC will be low-powered but can add as soon as I upgrade I hope.

Street Fighter, Tekken, Mortal Kombat, Pit Fighter, Capcom and various VS names! Any others I may have forgotten too...

I will have a 2P cabinet with 2 8-way joysticks and 6 buttons with each so it should cover all.

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2013, 09:12:50 am »
Ultimate mortal Kombat 3 and mortal Kombat 2 are the best ones

Super street fighter 2 turbo and street fighter 2 champion edition are the best ones (very different from each other though)

Don't forget to add killer instinct 1 and 2

Maybe the king of fighters series

Marvel vs capcom

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Best Fighters
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2013, 10:00:21 am »
Of course the obvious ones are the street fighter series and mortal kombat.

Personally I like the neo geo fighters and they are the only fighters I have on my cab. ( of course I only have 4 buttons per player)

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2013, 10:08:58 am »
Street Fighter Alpha 2

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2013, 10:19:58 am »
Ultimate mortal Kombat 3 and mortal Kombat 2 are the best ones

Super street fighter 2 turbo and street fighter 2 champion edition are the best ones (very different from each other though)

Don't forget to add killer instinct 1 and 2

Maybe the king of fighters series

Marvel vs capcom

Much thanks - "different from each other" is just what I'm looking for - i.e. games in the same series that differ and are therefore worth having together rather than the same game in lots of different versions.

I think I will struggle to run Killer Instinct 1 & 2 just now (as well as Tekken 3 for instance) but will bear it in mind as I plan to upgrade the PC once I've got "something" built and up and running - a version 2 if you like.

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2013, 10:21:39 am »
Of course the obvious ones are the street fighter series and mortal kombat.

Personally I like the neo geo fighters and they are the only fighters I have on my cab. ( of course I only have 4 buttons per player)
What ones in the street fighter and mortal kombat do you like? I want to pick some of the better ones from each series so that it's a good range without having too many.

I'm not really up on neogeo - what fighters are NeoGeo ones?

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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2013, 10:48:45 am »
Well definitely SF2
I like both the marvel vs SF &
Xmen vs SF

I don't play much MK so when I do it's usually 1,2 or 3

There are a few good neo geo ones like the king of fighter series.
Another one I like, I think is called last blade.

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2013, 11:01:10 am »
Street Fighter 1 Champion Edition  ;D


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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2013, 11:38:53 am »
Out of the MK's MK2. Definitely need to get X-men COTA, X-men vs SF, Marvel vs Capcom, Darkstalkers 2(Vampire Savior?) Not a huge fan of the SF series but you got recommendations on these.
Neo Geo you need to definitely get any of the Samurai Showdowns.
Also I forgot Primal Rage is cool.
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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2013, 11:53:05 am »
Daraku Tenshi is downright awesome.
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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2013, 11:55:53 am »
Thanks all. Thus far I'll have:

Mortal Kombat I & II
Street Fighter, Street Fighter II:CE, Super Street Fighter II Turbo, Street Fighter Alpha 2, Street Fighter III:3rd Strike
King of Fighters '94
Marvel Super Heroes v Capcom (and perhaps X-men v Capcom)
X-men: Children of the Atom
Night Warriors: Darkstalkers Revenge (Darkstalkers 2)
Primal Rage
Samurai Shodown
Tekken

Oh, and not forgetting Karate Champ, Yie Ar Kung Fu, International Karate+ :-)

Killer Instinct 1 & 2, Tekken 3, Street Fighter IV will come later on a better PC. Perhaps some of the above will need to also but only one way to find out! I guess I'll also trim/add as fighter fans play the cabinet and either ignore some games or demand additions  :D

What of Virtua Fighter, Pit Fighter, Soul Caliber? Are Final Fight and Fatal Fury fighters or beat-em-ups?

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2013, 11:56:42 am »
..and maybe Daraku Tenshi too then ;-)

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2013, 12:04:16 pm »
I used ROMlister to compile a list of fighters for MaLa.
Gives me a complete list, from there I refined the list to "favorites" and MaLa itself will create a list of most played games.

I like the PC version of SSFIV Arcade Edition, new hacks make it where you can play 2 player with a typical MAME + iPac set up.

I've got Street Fighter X Tekken PC also, but I'm yet to test it.

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2013, 01:10:42 pm »
Pit Fighter sucks and I wasnt a fan of Primal Rage, Final Fight is a beat'em up. KI and KI2 ran fine on a P4 2.8 for me. Samurai Shodown 2 is the pinnacle of the series for me. Other than Marvel VS Capcom 2, I think Xmen VS Street Fighter is the best of the versus series.
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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2013, 05:17:26 pm »
I agree if you chose only one Samurai Showdown it would be 2. I always loved that concept of dinosaurs fighting in Primal Rage. KI ran ok on a P4.
Also I liked the characters on Soul Calibur but never tried it on a P4 PC.

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2013, 05:14:39 am »
Pit Fighter sucks and I wasnt a fan of Primal Rage, Final Fight is a beat'em up. KI and KI2 ran fine on a P4 2.8 for me. Samurai Shodown 2 is the pinnacle of the series for me. Other than Marvel VS Capcom 2, I think Xmen VS Street Fighter is the best of the versus series.
I agree on Pit Fighter! I think it was ground-breaking at the time with the actors-as-fighters thing but that's been done now and the game itself doesn't cut it. It is a game I remember though so may keep it for nostalgic reasons (at least initially). I've got a 2.0Ghz PC I think - certainly a poor one but it's still fine for a lot more than I expected but I think KI was a little slow. I'll change Samarui Shodown on my list to 2 and the vs. recommendations seem reasonable and in line with a lot i've seen/heard too.

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2013, 10:10:01 am »
The list then (Killer Instinct & Tekken 3 and perhaps others may need to wait for better H/W!):
Karate Champ
Yie Ar Kung Fu
Street Fighter,
Street Fighter II:Hyper Fighting, SSF II Turbo
Street Fighter Alpha 2
Street Fighter III:3rd Strike
Street Fighter EX
Street Fighter IV
Mortal Kombat II
King of Fighters '94
Marvel Super Heroes v Capcom (and perhaps X-men v Capcom or X-men:COTA - I'll playtest :-))
Tekken 3
Killer Instinct
Samurai Shodown 2
Virtua Fighter
Soulcaliber

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2013, 12:56:17 pm »
Daraku Tenshi the Fallen Angels
Garou Mark of the Wolves
Rival Schools
Soul Caliber

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2013, 05:15:17 am »
Looks like any Tekken, Soul or 3D in general is out for my H/W just now. All the street fighters are running well though and even the mighty Yie Ar Kung Fu! Several others though - I'll do a list when done - the "Fighters that run on a crappy PC" list I guess. All the 3D will come soon I'm sure, my first setup is just going to be on what I've got at the moment - once I have something I hope to fill the house with cabinets (don't tell the wife!)

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2013, 07:54:32 am »
While the MAME version of Tekken might not run that great, have you tried the Playstation version with a PSX emu? I was sorta curious if you liked Daraku Tenshi , since both Generic Eric and I suggested it =)
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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2013, 10:24:29 am »
While the MAME version of Tekken might not run that great, have you tried the Playstation version with a PSX emu? I was sorta curious if you liked Daraku Tenshi , since both Generic Eric and I suggested it =)
I'll give it a go sometime though the PSX emulator (ePSXe) was difficult to setup during my initial looks. I'll come back to it one day though. Oh and I'll let you know on Daraku Tenshi - I've not yet tried it :-) I'm not great at fighters - it seems a long learning curve to get all the moves in each - but I know a few of the ones likely to come round when my cabinets done will like it. I liked the look of the sword fighters - Soul Calibur / Samurai Shodown (?) though!

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2013, 10:37:46 am »
It seems strange that you can run soul calibur but not killer instinct. Have you actually confirmed it works Ok?



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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2013, 11:00:29 am »
I can't actually run Soul Calibur on the PC I will use for my cabinet. I did get something out of it on my normal PC where I set it all up though. Ditto with Killer Instinct. So, I'm able to play them but not (yet) have them in my cabinet. The PC I am playing them on is AMD, so not ideal for Mame really. I'll sort some decent Intel PC's once I've done the cabinet version 1 (with the crap PC). So, whilst they won't all go on the cabinet PC yet I still want a definitive list for when I have the H/W!

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2013, 07:06:11 pm »
Another one I like, I think is called last blade.

Yup, Last Blade and its sequel, Last Blade 2.  Fantastic games.

Real Bout Fatal Fury is good too.

Also, Waku Waku 7 if you want something on the lighter side.
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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2013, 07:11:23 pm »
What of Virtua Fighter, Pit Fighter, Soul Caliber? Are Final Fight and Fatal Fury fighters or beat-em-ups?

Virtua Fighter is kind of medicre, Pit Fighter is terrible, Soul Caliber is decent.  Fatal Fury is a fighting game, although the Real Bout Fatal Fury series is better than the originals.  Final Fight is a beat-em-up.

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2013, 07:18:45 pm »
I think if I had to pick a "best of" lineup for a cabinet, I'd choose:

Garou: Mark of the Wolves
Last Blade 2
Marvel vs Capcom
Mortal Kombat 3: Ultimate
Real Bout Fatal Fury 2
Street Fighter II: Champion Edition
Super Street Fighter II
Street Fighter Alpha 2
Street Fighter 3: Second Impact
Vampire Savior
one of the Samurai Shodowns (probably #2 or #3)
one of the King of the Fighters (probably '98 or '99)

I'm sure there are some others I am forgetting...

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2013, 05:02:21 am »
Opinion differs a little, of course, but a definite theme developing :-)

Street Fighter - Alpha 2, SSF2 (not turbo), Marvel v Capcom
Pit Fighter sucks

And then many (Garou, Daraku Tenshi, Soul Caliber) none of which I'd heard of and

I'd got the list as the following after more tweaking this weekend. As I've said, I'm not a massive fighting fan (the learning curve for all the moves seems steep, making it a random button bash for me) but I do still play occasionally and might even get hooked as I play more King of Fighters and the 3 fighter per player setup I really like...

I think my cabinet is going to be "games I played/remembered" (even if I didn't play that much) for now just to narrow it down a little and get something up and built - I'm wasting weekends fiddling with games and menus at present and not building! This will have a UK bias (I wonder how many of these were common in the UK). This will keep out Garou/Daraku etc but will keep the Street Fighters/Tekkens (if they ran) and Karate Champ/Yie Ar Kung Fu (I might add King of Fighters 98 as that's interested me the most) Never fear though, I'll add the "best of the rest" in version 2 and by then I'll have chance to playtest/try the rest on the PC and/or Kindle :-)

The list at present:
Karate Champ
Marvel Super Heroes (might just have the next one)
Marvel v Capcom
Mortal Kombat
Mortal Kombat II (will perhaps replace both MK with Ultimate MK 3 if it runs okay and I also prefer)
Street Fighter (might not bother)
Street Fighter Alpha : Warriors Dreams (will replace with Alpha 2?)
Street Fighter EX2 Plus
Street Fighter II : Hyper Fighting (or is Champion Edition better)
SF III: 3rd strike (or 2nd impact better?)
SSF II: Turbo (or non-turbo?)
Tekken 2 (seems to run best of the Tekkens or I'd go 3 but I'm not yet sure this will run, in Mame, on my cabinet PC)
King of Fighters 98
Virtua Fighter (might remove as though I remember it, its dated more than most)
X-men v SF (probably not and will go with just M v C)
Yie Ar Kung Fu

So, it's become a bit of a "what street fighters would you have" for version 1 but I WILL add many of the other suggestions (and am playing now to try out) so all your help has been great, if for no other reason than I've tried out loads of different games :-)



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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2013, 08:45:25 am »
MvC 1 is probably the bottom of the barrel when it comes to the VS series.

Marvel Super Heroes VS Street Fighter and Xmen VS Street Fighter are just plain better, which is better depends on which roster you like more.

XMENvSF = 16 playable characters, 1 boss Apocalypse, Easiest to find hidden character ever (just press up on the top row to get Akuma)
MSHvSF   = 16 playable Characters, 2 bosses (Apocalypse and optionally Cyber-Akuma/Mecha-Gouki),  6 Hidden Characters: US Agent, Mephisto, Armored Spiderman, Shadow, Dark Sakura, MechZangeif. The Japanese version also has Norimaro.

MvC1 = 15 playable (and what I feel is the weakest roster), cant have partner attack, random assist person, and Onslaught isnt well known and was sort of a blatant rip off of Apocalypse. I feel like people think MvC1 is good just because MvC2 was so great, but personally I think it was a step backwards.
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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2013, 10:06:30 am »
I like Spiderman. But then I like Wolverine. But which is better? There's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

I'll perhaps go with the Xmen AND the Marvel Super Heroes then, or maybe rotate on a guest/weekly basis :-) I'll try and get my fighter pals to play them and let me know which they prefer... It's really not too bad to have all 3, I just want a short compact list but I can have that over time and playing (I'm already essentially doing that slowly now).

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2013, 02:01:52 pm »
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2013, 05:04:57 pm »
keep in virtua fighter

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2013, 03:47:06 pm »
You can put Time Killers in there. It was a little controversial at the time for it's violence, but it's crappy game play ensured it never got real popular.

There is something rewarding about beating someone after getting your arms chopped off.

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2013, 09:42:08 am »

Karate Champ
Mortal Kombat
Mortal Kombat II
Mortal Kombat III
Mortal Kombat III Ultimate

 - Personally, Im going to go opposite on many of these.  I like Pit Fighter.   :laugh2:   Its not much of a fighting game.. but its frickin Hilarious!   :laugh2:   I mean come on..  guys in leather masks.  Spiked haired chicks.  The crowd stabbing you.   It looks like some sort of twisted S&M fetish porno.  I laughed my butt off when I saw it arrive in the arcade, and found it hard to fathom how they got away with actually getting it green lit all the way to actual production.  Did they have placeholder sprites of Smurfs all the way up till day of Cabinet Building?  heh

 As shallow as it is, its actually fun to play.  Its just that its more of a beat-em-up than an actual fighting game.

 - As for MK... I remember how cool the realistic looking, huge sprite, game was.  It was much more simple than something like SFII.. but it was still fun, and I really loved the look and attitude of the game... rather than the cartoony and almost Disney-Esc fighters.

 I still dont quite get while ppl prefer MKII... over  MK3.  MKII was a let down for me.  While there were some cool new characters & moves in there... the character digitization wasnt good.  I was thinking we were going to be seeing hi-resolution photographic quality captures.   Instead, they just hand colored over the low quality captures... and the colors and shading made it look like a cartoon again. Plastic-looking, unrealistic, colors that were way too saturated.  The animations were not as good as the original either..  Most especially.. the 'waiting - ready' animations.  UGG.  The characters seemed smaller too..  but maybe that was an illusion.  I also didnt like the look of certain characters, such as the new SubZero.

 When MK3 came out, I was initially scared of trying to learn the new mechanics due to the money it would take, and how quick I could have gotten stomped by the skilled players.  The speed, intensity, and combo system looked awesome, and I caved in and started learning when nobody was on the machine.  Soon got a few combos off, and I loved it.  So much more interesting and rewarding than the simplistic MK1 & II format.. which was a bit too slow and to predictable.  Its also more realistic, in that once youve been clocked good enough, you become a punching bag to a rapidfire striker.  I also loved the run button.  It added a whole new speed and intensity to the game.. and made things a lot less predictable.

 Even though the graphics were that same cartoony crud.. the new gameplay made up for it.   Maybe its because I was never a hardcore player in that game..  so didnt see what others saw, such as possibly a poor game balance due to victories that are too 'cheap'.


 I dont count MK4 as an MK game.  Looked horrible. Played it once to confirm... it Sucked.


Street Fighter - Tried it once in mame.. didnt enjoy.

SFIICE - Was probably my Fav SF.  I didnt care about Hyper speed versions, because AFAIK it was still the same game.. and the speed generically added similar to upping clock speed rather than a programmed and balanced range between slow and fast.  I do like the new moves in CE however.

 SFII Rainbow / Bootleg Hacks  -  Some of these are really fun.  Dragon Punches that travel half the screen.  Air Launched fireballs.  Faster Special moves. (which helps on characters like ChunLi, whos leg spin move was too slow).


Street Fighter Alpha 
SF III: 3rd strike (or 2nd impact better?)
SSF II: Turbo (or non-turbo?)

- didnt bother with above.  After so many versions of SFII with so little changed, I didnt care to play any more SF Variants.   I didnt get into that Anime style where the entire screen is filled with beams and projectiles from an epilepsy inducing 'super-attack'.


Tekken 2 (seems to run best of the Tekkens or I'd go 3 but I'm not yet sure this will run, in Mame, on my cabinet PC)

- Didnt really play Tek2.  Graphics looked pretty rough.  Control looked quirky & unintuitive.  But Tekken3.. is da Bomb.  Its not perfect, in that its still quite quirky in relation to real combat.  However, its very playable, and very enjoyable.  The shear amount of moves possible are great.  Whats great about Tek3, is that the animations are 3d motions captures from real martial artists.  Its one of the most realistic as a result.  Like the music too.


King of Fighters 98 - Too cartoony for me.  Gameplay seemed generically boring.
Virtua Fighter - liked music and sfx..  but graphically & gameplay wise, it mater

X-men v SF (probably not and will go with just M v C)  - I played a few games of the first.. .and it was intersting... but just too much projectile / magic warfare.

Yie Ar Kung Fu - Thats more of a beat em up scroller..


 Killer Instinct - probably my alltime favorite fighter, up there with Tekken3.  Similar to SFIIce in gameplay.. but far superior in all aspects.  Featuring hundreds of possible user created combinations,  combo-breaking system,  'Unbreakable-Combo Creations' that can be countered / stopped,   Hold and Release moves for bonus damages & visual effect, shadow-moves if you broke a combo, great music, cool characters & backdrops.

 KI2 - Didnt care for it much.  Orchid changes were hideous.  Characters were less fluid, awkward controlling, too much delay, too slow. Some backdrops looked too cartoony. Too many horribly looking explosions that obscured visibility of characters.

 Samurai Shodown - orig.  Limited, but fun.

 Soul Calibur - Wanted to like it... but it was way too awkward to control.. Very unrealistic.  Way too slow and tame (and lame) for weapon combat.

 Karate Champ - good choice

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2013, 05:22:50 am »
Fighters certainly stirs up opinions :-)

I might include Pit Fighter if only me (as a non-fighter, more of a lover) remember it and the hype around it. If it gets played, great, if not I can remove it later!

MK I think will be MKII and UMK3. The last of these might not run so well though (or MK3).

I've got SFII:CE based on opinion here. I think I'll stick in SF:Alpha and SSFII also to add a bit of variety without having too many of them.

I'd go Tekken 3 no question, but it's just too slow on my hardware (cabinet or even my rusting normal PC) so for now, I'll stick with Tekken II and look to add Tekken 3 when I'm on new hardware. I LOVED it on the PSX.

Karate Champ and Yie-Ar also - I see Yie-ar as a (basic) early fighter - certainly doesn't scroll but not loads of moves either (not bad for a j/stick and couple of buttons though!!) Used to play this a LOT on Acorn Electron in the 80's!

Killer Instinct is either an American thing, or after my time and I don't know it at all until I got into Mame. I will add it at some point for sure but I don't have the juice yet and I'm trying to stick to games I remember for now - just to limit the list a little!

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2013, 09:36:08 am »
SFIICE - Was probably my Fav SF.  I didnt care about Hyper speed versions, because AFAIK it was still the same game.. and the speed generically added similar to upping clock speed rather than a programmed and balanced range between slow and fast.  I do like the new moves in CE however.

 SFII Rainbow / Bootleg Hacks  -  Some of these are really fun.  Dragon Punches that travel half the screen.  Air Launched fireballs.  Faster Special moves. (which helps on characters like ChunLi, whos leg spin move was too slow).

 Killer Instinct - Featuring hundreds of possible user created combinations,  combo-breaking system,  'Unbreakable-Combo Creations' that can be countered / stopped,   Hold and Release moves for bonus damages & visual effect, shadow-moves if you broke a combo, great music, cool characters & backdrops.
I agree about CE, the hacks were pretty fun, You're missing out by not Playing SSF2/T , Fei Long is a blast if you can pull off his cross over - interrupt combos. In Killer instinct, the only combos that can't be broken are the ones without linkers (typically 4 hits or less) or Ultras (you are dead anyway). KI was a big US release, and I dont know how well it did anywhere else. Sam Show 2 > SamSho 1

No harm in having 2 different MKs, go with MKII and UMK3. SF Alpha 2 and 3 are both great. As for the Tekken (lol @ realistic), have you tried Zinc or emulating the PSX versions?
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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2013, 09:57:30 am »
I tried Zinc for Tekken 3 - and the sound wasn't right. I've not yet done PSX emulation. I will do, but it won't be in this first build I think.

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2013, 02:58:49 am »
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lol @ realistic

 Meaning, realistic in fluid human movements.   For example, there are a lot of more modern games that use pure 3d animations, with no motion capture... and the results look robotic, mentally / physically challenged, and outright ridiculous.   A prime example, is the walking animations on the new MK everyone was clamoring about that was just released for PC.

 

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Re: Best Fighters
« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2013, 12:44:07 am »
Fighters are the main reason I have a multi Arcade cab.

Capcom vs SNK 2 (DC)
SNK vs Capcom SvC Chaos
Marvel vs Capcom 1 / 2 (DC)
Mortal Kombat II/3/Ultimate/MK Gold (DC)
Samurai Shodown II
KOF series
Dead or Alive 2
Soul Calibur 1,2,3
KI/KI2
GAROU Mark of the Wolves
Guilty Gear X (DC)
Primal Rage (arcade)
Real Bout Fatal Fury 2
VF series
Tekken 2,3,5 and Tag
Super SF II Turbo
SF III 3rd Strike
SF IV Arcade Edition
SF X Tekken
MKKE (reported to run slow on older pc and DX10/11 Win7/8 required)
SNK vs Capcom Ultimate MUGEN 2007 (I know it's MUGEN but this is one of the best out there, try it, you'll see).

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