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Author Topic: Updated with Pic.Isolation Transformer Wire up to Nanao MS8-26SU need help  (Read 5008 times)

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So from a standard PC style power plug which is to be plugged into a smartstrip for the mame arcade machine. The other equipment plug side has been stripped down to the bare Black, White and Green Wires.

Black is my Hot, White is Neutral and Green is Earth/Ground

I have a 120V Isolation transformer from Twisted Quarter. (see pic)


What is the best way to wire this up to my Nanao MS8-26SU  So that everything is correct. Does this Ground wire need to go up and connect to the frame of the monitor or is there a standard post or terminal on the chassis for grounding?

I also need to wire the Degauss wire up to this and use a push button to degauss the monitor from time to time.

Thank you!

« Last Edit: June 04, 2013, 12:37:32 pm by jtslade »
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Re: Isolation Transformer Wire up to Nanao MS8-26SU best method?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2013, 12:36:25 pm »
I'm having a hard time to gt people to chime in on this so I created a wiring drawing to help visualize what I'm working on.

 Here is my latest wiring schematic. Unless someone here says this won't work or needs some changes I should get this hooked up this week.

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Yeah that looks fine.
Just remember you wanna plug the ISO transformer into the switched outlet, not one of the constant hots.
Just out of curiosity, why are you manually switching the degaussing coil? Are you rotating the monitor?

You may be interested in adding some kind of time delay relay into that circuit in order to give the degaussing coil a little cool down time.
With you current proposed setup, if you pressed the button over and over again, the coil would go each time and quickly burn out.
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Thank you for the reply MGB,

as I understand it (since these Nanao's came from lots of Sega Model 2 arcade games they all included manual degauss buttons which is wired to a degauss wire that is on my monitor.

::quote from Klov user R3LLK : "You need to wire that degauss button. As soon as it's wired and you bush the button it will fix itself. Trust me.

Here's a rough drawing of how to wire it. This is how I wired mine and another member here used this pic to wire his. Both worked great afterward. These MS8's absolutely need the manual degauss to be wired."



- How would I make a time delay relay and how would be be the best way to wire it into this existing circuit?

Thank you...
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Ok. I didn't know they were manual on those. I've worked on one once but didn't pay attention to how the degaussing circuit was done.

If you're gonna just have the switch wired in and out of sight, then you should be fine. Otherwise you can use a time delayed relay.

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How/where do I build or buy a time delay relay?
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Here's the one that used for many different tasks.

http://www.surveillance-video.com/6062.html?cmp=googleproducts&kw=6062&gclid=CLnP7c2dy7cCFQug4AodnTEA0Q

It can be set up thorough the dip switches and dial to activate for a specific time upon being tripped or to wait a specific time to activate after being tripped.

The only thing is in your case, the circuit is 120vac and this relay operates on 12 or 24 VDC so you'd need another small ice cube relay that would activate off the 120vac any time the degaussing circuit goes active.
    There are a few ways to get it done and you'd have to experiment.

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From what I remember, your connection for the degauss coil is wrong. In any case there needs to be a Thermistor with a positive co-efficient connected in the degauss coil connection. It should already be there I think on the main board it is PTH501. What this does when you activate the degaussing coil it will control the voltage being applied to about 8 cycles of the 120 volts AC, it will reduce that voltage linearly so that the degauss coil does not leave a dc magnetic signature on the tube. The momentary contact switch if I remember right and based on the Schematic gets connected between pin 5 &7 of the input connector, should be rated at least 120Volt (or240) 5 amp.

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I have a degaussing wire on the monitor now .. I'll get some pics and figure out what it's wired to now.

Thank you Rick ..

Btw is there in the works an LCOS or Led CRT hybrid that projects on a glass tube? Use some digital programmable magic to display a CRT type image on curved glass?

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Pics of the new arcade monitor, very hot ISO transformer, groovy Mame 1.49, arcadeVGA 3000..

Some tweaking today and the results so far are breathtaking.. Best thing I ever did..


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Re: Updated with Pic.Isolation Transformer Wire up to Nanao MS8-26SU need help
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2014, 07:54:27 am »
Hi sir, i have the same monitor and i need some hlep with the degauss wiring. How you connect your?? Is it working??? Can you post some pictures?

THANKS

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Re: Updated with Pic.Isolation Transformer Wire up to Nanao MS8-26SU need help
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2014, 05:20:03 pm »
I'm having a hard time to gt people to chime in on this so I created a wiring drawing to help visualize what I'm working on.

 Here is my latest wiring schematic. Unless someone here says this won't work or needs some changes I should get this hooked up this week.



This is how I wired it up and it works perfectly..

I can get some pics but this is how I did it.

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Re: Updated with Pic.Isolation Transformer Wire up to Nanao MS8-26SU need help
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2014, 08:28:43 am »
Thanks sir for your reply and help!!!!! If you can get some images it will be much easier for me!!!!!!!

Thanks again friend and i am waiting for your reply

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Re: Updated with Pic.Isolation Transformer Wire up to Nanao MS8-26SU need help
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2014, 08:47:30 am »
Well i actually understand your diagram but just to be sure i want some explanations........
Do i need to ground the isolation transformer like in photo???

Can you be more detailed on the 5 pin connector and where the 2 cables goes (they goes to 110v supply or push button), like i upload in pictures  ???