Just when i was about to write her off.

[paigeoliver]

Nothing to see here.

[crsdawg]

good luck there paige,  persistence (within reason of course) can pay off.

[menace]

The best way to describe Sarah is to say she is a Princess Leia type.

I guess the best thing you could do then would be to complete the kessel run in under 13 parsecs ...

just a thought *shrug*

[JackTucky]

Good luck.  Wasn't there a Seinfeld episode where they discussed my biggest belief about women?  Basically, the more you ignore them, the more they like you?  Or was it the other way around?

Quote: "Sunday morning I woke up just a bit too late to make it to church, so I decided just to skip morning church and go at night instead."

PaigeOliver:  I guess it pays off being a born again, eh?  Twice the meeting chances over regular church-goers?  

[RacerX]

Best of luck to you, Paige.  If I can offer a bit of advice...

Just take things as they come.  In my experience, it isn't worth getting yourself all stressed out over.  (Although I know that's easier said than done.)  

You have a lot to offer (all those cabs!!!), and some fine young lady will see that.

[SirPoonga]

Ok, I don't want to sound bad about this but this sounds like a high school thing.  Also you seem a little obsessive about it, posting her pic and all.  That's not good.

Just ask her out man.  There's no other way to put yourself at ease unless you face it head on.  If it works out, hey, all the better.  If not it is a learning experience.
If you don't get up the courage maybe one day she will never come back.  You'd end up regretting it for the rest of your life if oyu think something could happen.

Maybe she would like to get with you?  She did goto church twice in one day

Above all else just keep an open mind about things.

Oh yeah, and why the hell are you sharing this with this crowd?  No friends by you that you can talk to, that would help out too.

[RacerX]

Ok, I don't want to sound bad about this but this sounds like a high school thing.  Also you seem a little obsessive about it, posting her pic and all.  That's not good.

Hmmm... Good points.  For heaven's sake, man, remove her picture before one of her friends sees it and points it out to her.  You have no deniability if she sees her picture on here!  

[shmokes]

heh...he's hoping she finds out.  Then it will be this...oh, how sweet and he can tell her how he feels about her without any confontation.

It won't work, though.  I'll tell you what.  Go rent the movie The Tao of Steve.  There is not better instruction book on how to get women.

And never ask.  Only take.  Women hate being asked.  If you ask the answer will always be "no" (some of them don't even know this and would get all pissed off and deny it if you were to ask them, but in practice it's practically a scientific law).  Just take it.  If you want to kiss her just kiss her, etc.  At worst she'll get all pissed off and you'll never get any again (which happens to be exactly how much you get by asking).  At best you'll get more.  At the very least, though, you'll get that one kiss which you can consider a consolation prize if she doesn't reciprocate  

The doctor is in.

[Jakobud]

yeah dude.... loose the picture.....  what do you think she would think if you were posting her picture on websites for everyone to see?

[Frostillicus]

And never ask.  Only take.  Women hate being asked.  If you ask the answer will always be "no" (some of them don't even know this and would get all pissed off and deny it if you were to ask them, but in practice it's practically a scientific law).  Just take it.  If you want to kiss her just kiss her, etc.  At worst she'll get all pissed off and you'll never get any again (which happens to be exactly how much you get by asking).  At best you'll get more.  At the very least, though, you'll get that one kiss which you can consider a consolation prize if she doesn't reciprocate  

Just take?  I understand what you are saying, but it's that kind of attitude that leads to other...not-so-innocent activity, if you get my drift.  

[RetroJames]

IMHO: Tell her how you feel or make a move the next time your together.  If she feels the same way things will progress, if not you can both move on. Waiting around for her to make the move or for yourself to get up the courage is going to lead down the wrong road.  Just be cool and don't do something stupid like show up at her door with a bucket of flowers and a mariachi band.  
Needy = Loser.

JMHO - Good Luck

[RacerX]

You know, I live in Texas, and I'm single.  Maybe I'll look her up!  I have a thing for red-heads.  

[paigeoliver]

No one needs to see thing.

[Tailgunner]

Saint's just covering his rear end, and in this day and age I can't say I blame him.

Anyways, she's a cutie and I hope things work out for you two.

[shmokes]

And never ask.  Only take.  Women hate being asked.  If you ask the answer will always be "no" (some of them don't even know this and would get all pissed off and deny it if you were to ask them, but in practice it's practically a scientific law).  Just take it.  If you want to kiss her just kiss her, etc.  At worst she'll get all pissed off and you'll never get any again (which happens to be exactly how much you get by asking).  At best you'll get more.  At the very least, though, you'll get that one kiss which you can consider a consolation prize if she doesn't reciprocate  

Just take?  I understand what you are saying, but it's that kind of attitude that leads to other...not-so-innocent activity, if you get my drift.  

   heh heh....yeah, it kind of sounds like that.  I ,of course, mean make a move.  Just move in for the kill.  Don't ask.  Don't have one of those cute moments where you both know what's going to happen, but you're nervous and you keep grinning and then say, "oh, what the hell," and everybody laughs about it in the end.  Just kiss her, damn it.  And when you take her out to dinner (at least during the courting phase) just take her somewhere.  None of this, "where would you like to go?" "Oh, I don't know, wherever." "No...I want to take you were YOU want to go."  That's bad.  Just take her where YOU want to take her.  She'll appreciate that.

Confidence goes a REALLY long way.

edit: And IMO it's surprisingly easy to fake.  The more you fake it, in fact, and see it working, the more you start faking yourself out and pretty soon you just believe it and don't need to fake it anymore.

[hyiu]

hmmm.....

woman.... don't really understand... and I doubt I will...

yes... confidence is VERY IMPORTANT.... somehow... woman is attracted to that.... you need to show that you're a confident guy....

but bring her to what YOU want to go ?? without asking her ??.... nope... I don't think so.....

I would say.... Bring her to where you think she would like to go..... and during the time... pay attention to her reaction to see if your guess id right or not.... (if not... I would say just ask her....)

pay attention to what she wants to do... usually... if you talk to her.... in some way... she'll tell you (implies... or explicitly) what she wants to do.....

good luck....  

[Magnet_Eye]

your problem is that you are posting your feelings on a message board rather than being honest and just yourself towards this person. Try opening up to her. Try being yourself and upfront.

Just go up to her and say "Hey, you wanna make out?"  

You have a 50/50 chance!! (You'd be amazed how often this line actually works.)

[SNAAAKE]

For those who arent very "confident"
I highly recomend you try ebay...  

LOL...sorry had to...saw on another forum.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2964350069&category=45208

[paigeoliver]

Nothing to see.

[Dartful Dodger]

Sarah isn't really the "Hey, you wanna make out?" kind of girl. Sarah is more the type of girl who probably wouldn't even want to kiss until she is engaged.

I am perfectly fine with that though.

Are you sure your not in high school?

[shmokes]

Sarah isn't really the "Hey, you wanna make out?" kind of girl. Sarah is more the type of girl who probably wouldn't even want to kiss until she is engaged.

I am perfectly fine with that though.

Are you sure your not in high school?

That's what I'm talking about.  You need to take control of the situation.  It's confused thinking like that that's standing between you and this girl.  While you're twiddling your thumbs trying to be respectful of imaginary ideals you've projected onto this girl, she's getting bored and wondering what's wrong with her that's keeping you from making a damn move.  She's thinking, "Am I ugly?  I'm sending out signals, but this guy isn't responding.  Why won't he kiss me?  Is he gay?"  While all the while you're thinking, "I am so kind and respectful of her space that she is bound to see what a nice, christ-like guy I am and fall in love."

But nice guys finish last.  Be considerate and expect consideration, but don't be a nice guy.  You'll end up with a bunch of girls who say that you're "just like a brother" to them.  You can't tell me that ain't frustrating.

[hyiu]

I have to agree... shmokes is right... to a certain degree...

but that also depends on the background... culture... social value of both of them....

definitely make a move..... but is it like "wanna make out" ?? and "french kiss her " ??.... maybe.... maybe not....

there's no set rule.... noone here can say when is a good time to do what.... and it doesn't matter if its as simple as hold hands or make out....

make your move when it feels right.... just don't force it if she backs off... just go with the flow....

and even if she backs off... doesn't mean its bad... maybe you just have a bad timing.....

well..... in general.... asking a bunch of old video game geeks how to get a girl..... somehow it just sounds like a joke.....  

good luck....  

[Nailz]

I'm going to agree with Schmokes, if you don't do something soon, she'll start to look at you "like a brother" and you don't want that.  As for her not wanting to kiss until you're engaged, you're ok with that?  The Victorian age is long gone, and while not all women will go all the way before marriage (which I in fact respect a great deal) lack of any physical contact at all seems a bit off.

My $.02 for ya, good luck however it turns out.

And yes, i'll agree with others, this thread is a tad lame.  But hey, aren't we all at times?  

[iwillfearnoevil]

i guess i'll just say i disagree with the last few comments,  as there's more than one way of letting someone know you care for them other than forcing yourself on them via kissing or using some stupid pickup line from a movie. but that's just my opinion.

[shmokes]

Sure sure, there's more than one way...if you want to be thought of as family  

[MilitiaMan]

If and when you do decide to ask this girl out, I suggest you not mention to her that you have video games in your bedroom.  

Let her find out on her own later ....

MM

[Jakobud]

she is 25 and I am 26,

for some reason i have a really hard time believing that...

[jakejake28]

she is 25 and I am 26,

for some reason i have a really hard time believing that...

hah...

i can't agree more