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"A Barrel of Kong" - A Bar Height themed Cocktail Cab
« Reply #200 on: May 30, 2013, 05:00:52 pm »
Alternate riddle answer, "It must be Jelly 'cause Jam don't shake like that".


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« Reply #201 on: May 30, 2013, 05:16:28 pm »
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Re: "A Barrel of Kong" - A Bar Height themed Cocktail Cab
« Reply #202 on: May 30, 2013, 11:01:30 pm »
Any hooooo

CP artwork came through today


Should get the barrel final touches done tomorrow and hopefully bezel on the weekend.

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« Reply #203 on: May 30, 2013, 11:25:14 pm »
dude, tell me your just test fitting that washer....There's no pink in Baseball!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #204 on: May 30, 2013, 11:33:56 pm »
Griff, I know you seem to think I've got some sort of ulterior motive, but this is really just constructive criticism. This is a really neat concept, I dig it. However, a little more forethought on the execution would have helped polish it off nicely.

First...

There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to the control layout. I'm not sure if you went this route due to space issues, and the P2 Start button was an after thought on P1's side. But it looks like there is enough room to mount those joysticks vertically instead of horizontally, this would have given more room for the buttons to line up in a more "traditional" layout.

Second...

The cuts in the barrel walls really draw the eye. Cutting them parallel with the "chassis" sides, instead of intersecting with the barrel's center, would have provided a more seamless integration of the control panels.

Third...

I hope those restrictors have been moved from 8-way to 4-way.

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dude, tell me your just test fitting that washer....There's no pink in Baseball!!!!!!!!!!!
What he said.

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« Reply #205 on: May 31, 2013, 12:05:59 am »
Lol Hi Neph

The player two button was a last minute addition as I missed it originally. Also the space is very tight in the control panel area so trying to find the balance was difficult.  Not a lot of science went into the layout but it does work nicely enough allowing my man hands to play in the space.

The cuts.  Yep I screwed up on those and I'm paying the price now trying to make shims to even out the angle so it flows with the CP edges.

Restrictors yep I have yet to set them to four way,also I need to dremel them out from clovers to diamonds.

Dust washers.  What can I say I like fruity martinis and karaoke too.

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« Reply #206 on: May 31, 2013, 01:29:53 am »
dude, tell me your just test fitting that washer....There's no pink in Baseball!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe his 60-in-1 has the Pauline Edition of DK.   :duckhunt

The sloping sides of the barrel make the upright sides of the removable chassis stick out further than they need to.

Next time, consider shaping the uprights above the CP to follow the barrel sides.

You might also want the bottom of the chassis curved like the CP top to avoid protuding lower corners like these.



Maybe heat-bend some acrylic around the barrel to form the blue piece to match the curve and slope of the barrel wall. :dunno


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Re: "A Barrel of Kong" - A Bar Height themed Cocktail Cab
« Reply #207 on: May 31, 2013, 09:23:02 am »
Ideally it would be great to follow the lines of the barrel perfectly but it's a lot more challenging that it may first appear. The main problem is space, the curve of the barrel starts to taper quite a lot as it moves toward the ends and the wood itself is an inch thick, so you lose even more interior space for joystick bases, mounting and buttons etc.

An important part of the functional design was to have the controls as enclosed and protected as possible by the glass to protect them from drink spills which brings in the second factor you have to consider - the angle at which the players hands enter the small enclosed control panel area. It has to be shallow enough to be comfortable and allow the players hands to move freely under the glass without hitting the lip. This means you can't move the controls too far in as that increases that chance of contact with the glass by the top of the players hands, move the panel out too far then you have to extend the glass lip more, and then of course you are breaking the lines of the barrel even more.

The minimum width of the CP chassis is also heavily affected by the width of the monitor. I'm using a 17", you could use a smaller one but then you are sacrificing screen real estate and you still suffer from some of the other dimension restrictions anyway.

So could it be done better, no doubt yes. Could it be done as simply as it seems on the surface, absolutely not, the different factors involved all fight each other and it is very difficult to find the right balance of comfort, function and form.

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Re: "A Barrel of Kong" - A Bar Height themed Cocktail Cab
« Reply #208 on: May 31, 2013, 09:46:38 am »
Could the monitor maybe have gone over the controls which would allow the controls to go flush with the barrel...they would have to be deeper in the barrel though. .
Great build you've definately found an original concept here love it..
« Last Edit: May 31, 2013, 09:57:44 am by Richie_jones »

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Re: "A Barrel of Kong" - A Bar Height themed Cocktail Cab
« Reply #209 on: May 31, 2013, 10:13:52 am »
Roughing in the shims to flatten out the cut angle.  These things are a nightmare to cut as they have angles in three dimensions


« Last Edit: May 31, 2013, 10:32:10 am by Maximus »

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Re: "A Barrel of Kong" - A Bar Height themed Cocktail Cab
« Reply #210 on: May 31, 2013, 11:04:47 am »
lol, we are lighting old maximus up, keep in mind this guy has 3 builds going on at the same time....

3 HARD, UNIQUE builds.....anybody ever think he's doing this to entertain the forum?  I certainly have this on TIVO :)

 :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

So is it perfect no, is it cool yes, do we keep looking yes.......will it be bad ass when complete no doubt....

oh yeah.....dustwashers, left over from ms. pacman eh, your the mad genius, if pink washers complete your vision, carry on sir.. :notworthy:


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Re: "A Barrel of Kong" - A Bar Height themed Cocktail Cab
« Reply #211 on: May 31, 2013, 11:22:46 am »
Lol RaBlack yep they were left over so I figured I'd make use of them. Thankfully I am down to two builds now and soon it will be just one as this is coming to a close. I've been trying to tie up as much as I can as we are in escrow on a house so things are about to get real crazy around here for a few months around the middle of July.

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Re: "A Barrel of Kong" - A Bar Height themed Cocktail Cab
« Reply #212 on: May 31, 2013, 01:07:17 pm »
I've been trying to tie up as much as I can as we are in escrow on a house so things are about to get real crazy around here for a few months around the middle of July.

Don't get too crazy, I need to see your pinball build ;)

On a side note, I am looking into possibly doing a barrelcade as well, but this time I want to modify it to be a kegerator as well (if there is room for a small keg) with a tap on each side ;)

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« Reply #213 on: May 31, 2013, 01:17:01 pm »
Nice.  Yeah there is plenty of room in a full size barrel to throw one of those mini 5 liter kegs in there if you are using a full size barrel

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Re: "A Barrel of Kong" - A Bar Height themed Cocktail Cab
« Reply #214 on: May 31, 2013, 02:42:16 pm »
Bezel art done and everything assembled.  I cut the bezel a little too small garrrrrrrrrr so I may have to redo it but still I like the way the elements have come together



« Last Edit: May 31, 2013, 05:36:28 pm by Maximus »

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Re: "A Barrel of Kong" - A Bar Height themed Cocktail Cab
« Reply #215 on: May 31, 2013, 02:49:47 pm »
Ideally it would be great to follow the lines of the barrel perfectly but it's a lot more challenging that it may first appear.
In case I didn't make it clear earlier, I agree that this a very challenging design/build and think that you did a REALLY good job on this.   :applaud:

I just intended to offer a few tweaks around the edges.

The main thing that *appears* to be an easy tweak is trimming the vertical side above the CP along the red lines.


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« Reply #216 on: May 31, 2013, 03:25:39 pm »
Right on Scott, I know you weren't busting my chops, I always appreciate your input and the extra effort you put into creating sketches to communicate your thoughts. For some reason I'm always putting myself into these crazy space restricted builds and creating more headaches than I need  :banghead:

As for the sides yeah you shape them like that and I think they would look ok, I'm too far down the road with this now for that but it's good food for thought should anyone else build one of these. My sides were supposed to come up to the glass and give it extra support on the overhang but I miscalculated the depth of the unit so the sides don't come high enough for the glass to rest on them, still at least the glass will come out to the same diameter so hopefully they won't look too out of place.
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Re: "A Barrel of Kong" - A Bar Height themed Cocktail Cab
« Reply #217 on: May 31, 2013, 05:14:29 pm »
if I copy anything on this site, this will be it!!! I frickin LOVE this project!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #218 on: May 31, 2013, 09:17:44 pm »
The artwork looks great, as I've said 2,3,perhaps 4 times over now phenomenal project.

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« Reply #219 on: May 31, 2013, 09:37:15 pm »


I like this... Only thing I'd do different is put DK up at the top where the big barrel is and leave Mario on the bottom, like how it is in the game! 

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« Reply #220 on: May 31, 2013, 09:43:08 pm »
lol, we are lighting old maximus up, keep in mind this guy has 3 builds going on at the same time....

3 HARD, UNIQUE builds.....anybody ever think he's doing this to entertain the forum?  I certainly have this on TIVO :)

 :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

So is it perfect no, is it cool yes, do we keep looking yes.......will it be bad ass when complete no doubt....

oh yeah.....dustwashers, left over from ms. pacman eh, your the mad genius, if pink washers complete your vision, carry on sir.. :notworthy:

Yes!

Yes!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! 


this is a beautiful project but that pink glitter dust washer MUST go please, please, please just put black dust wahers on there
all I can see in these gorgeous build picks are those fricken' dust washers. I don't comment on peoples personal aesthetics much but, they just don't fit with the build.


PS: I absolutely love this build otherwise ;)
« Last Edit: May 31, 2013, 09:47:17 pm by Bender »

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Re: "A Barrel of Kong" - A Bar Height themed Cocktail Cab
« Reply #221 on: May 31, 2013, 10:29:11 pm »
Lol if I've made a big enough rumble to awake the Bender from his slumber then ok ok ok.



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« Reply #222 on: June 01, 2013, 03:53:46 am »
Looks great..top job mate..

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« Reply #223 on: June 01, 2013, 12:06:45 pm »
Call me crazy but I think the dust washers should be a dark, deep brown to match the wood of the barrel.

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« Reply #224 on: June 01, 2013, 12:10:05 pm »
Call me crazy but I think the dust washers should be a dark, deep brown to match the wood of the barrel.

Wood ones that looked like the ribs of the barrel would be fun, but I'm not going  crazy on this thing, just building a fun durable machine.

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« Reply #225 on: June 01, 2013, 02:20:45 pm »
Call me crazy but I think the dust washers should be a dark, deep brown to match the wood of the barrel.

Maybe some wood grain vinyl?   ;D


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« Reply #226 on: June 01, 2013, 06:07:59 pm »
Lol if I've made a big enough rumble to awake the Bender from his slumber then ok ok ok.



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« Reply #227 on: June 01, 2013, 11:30:00 pm »
dude, tell me your just test fitting that washer....There's no pink in Baseball!!!!!!!!!!!

mmmm, deja freakin vu.........

Don't say i didnt tell ya so.... :dunno

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« Reply #228 on: June 06, 2013, 10:43:35 pm »
Well cheers everyone, here's to the end of another fun build.




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« Reply #229 on: June 06, 2013, 10:52:57 pm »
How is the glass secured? It looks like its just laying on top.
Another excellent build!

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« Reply #230 on: June 06, 2013, 10:59:33 pm »
Thanks.  Yes it just lays on top on six small cushions.  It weighs about 30lbs very thick ain't going anywhere unless people get way too crazy

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« Reply #231 on: June 07, 2013, 12:27:32 am »
Not enough C-L Smoothes

Otherwise, brilliant!

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« Reply #232 on: June 07, 2013, 12:50:19 am »
Hey Maximus, great work!

By the way, looks like a stout you're drinkin' there?  Who makes it?  I can't make out the label.  Wish we had awesome import beers here in Japan.  We can only get the usual.  I will try to find some while I am here in the states.  If I can't find it care to send me one?  I'd drink a toast to ya!  ;D

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« Reply #233 on: June 07, 2013, 12:52:59 am »
Thanks man. It's a Belgian Quad called 'three Philosophers'  one of my all time faves from a new York brewery called Ommaghang (probably spelled that wrong)

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« Reply #234 on: June 07, 2013, 01:01:59 am »
Thanks man. It's a Belgian Quad called 'three Philosophers'  one of my all time faves from a new York brewery called Ommaghang (probably spelled that wrong)

I have another Belgium beer to look for now. Lady introduced me to "Tripel Karmeliet" and I love it, also has the plus side of getting me drunk with a couple glasses. 9% or something.

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« Reply #235 on: June 07, 2013, 01:03:57 am »
Yep, misspelled.  It's Ommegang.  Awesome brewery.  As a homebrewer and self confessed beer snob I would rather see you appreciate the brew than spell the brewery correctly however.   ;D

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« Reply #236 on: June 07, 2013, 01:19:23 am »
Neat idea, excellent execution, you are the man MaxiGriff!   :applaud:

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« Reply #237 on: June 07, 2013, 03:41:50 am »
Very cool build. I love it. Well done.   :applaud:  :applaud:  :applaud:  :applaud:

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« Reply #238 on: June 07, 2013, 08:45:31 am »
Yep, misspelled.  It's Ommegang.  Awesome brewery.  As a homebrewer and self confessed beer snob I would rather see you appreciate the brew than spell the brewery correctly however.   ;D

Cheers to that.  Belgian quads are my weak spot, picked up a lot of home brew gear for Xmas but still have yet to use it.  Hoping to find a clone for Avery Reverend or a St Bernardus Tripel. Also A HUGE Alesmith fan especially their Gran Cru and Horney Devil.

Thanks everyone for all their interest and posting, as usual it always makes a project a lot more fun with everyone along for the ride.

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« Reply #239 on: June 07, 2013, 08:59:54 am »
yep, this is a badass build.. I have never been a real huge fan of table tops, but I am having a machine crush on this thing!!!!  :notworthy: