Original Xbox Softmod as of 2013

[iJott]

I think the problem from the off is you're reading old guides and getting mixed up info from different sites. Softmodding an old xbox and installing vision is a 1-2-3 simple process, if you read the right info thats out there that is

Now you just need to set up vision to suit what you want, again the info's there just look

I challenge you to find a User Guide for Visionary. I'll wait . It doesn't exist. So I followed the Coinops guide (which was completely vague about the installation directory: "After transferring all of your CoinOPS files to their chosen destination....". Lol. "Their chosen destination").

You're right about the guides for the softmod though. I picked one that was outdated for the file I got and wasn't able to back up the eeprom, which prevented me from using hexen to use the one-click methods or to back up the eeprom to my pc. SID5 did the job though.

The FTP issue is along the same lines. I'm connected to the internet wirelessly and have a crossover cable from the laptop to the xbox. I then run ipconfig and set the xbox to dhcp. The address the xbox is given is in range of the wifi, but not the ethernet which prevents filezilla from connecting. Changing to within the ethernet range fixes it, but only when not in xbmc. I get an error saying the xbox rejected the connection. Using dvd2xbox allows me to connect.

[johnm]

You dont need to find a visionary install guide, it's an app so you follow the guide for installing the app on whatever dash you use. They cant write up a guide for every configuration of dash out there, you may want it in your emu folder, someone might want it in games, or apps, you might have XBMC, UnleashX, Evox or avalaunch and again everyone may want it in different folders or even partitions. Now if you fancy covering all the bases and writing up a guide i'm sure some may be grateful, because thats the only way it will get done but dont expect the dev or the ones helping out to do it, i'm sure they're far too busy making the app for you to enjoy in the first place

Did you check your network card properties, did you give it a fixed IP outwith your wifi range or is it set to DHCP.

[iJott]

It requires very little effort to change "After transferring all of your CoinOPS files to their chosen destination" to "Follow whichever guide is specific to your dash (xbmc, evox, unleashx, etc) for ADDING APPS and use that method to transfer these files."

Simple. No new guides required. In fact, the coinops guide itself has links to dash-specific instructions for other things.

Judging by the posts on that other site, I'm not the only one that ran into trouble with the install. The same questions I had were asked by other users as well.

Regardless, it's working now, so thanks for your initial suggestion to retransfer the files. That did the trick.

As for the network issue, I'll just keep on messing with the settings and hopefully stumble onto the fix. I doubt there's a user giude for that either .

[johnm]

So the info was there after all

It's very possible that on the coinops forum it's been asked and answered time and time again, you'll also find posts go unanswered because people there are probably sick of answering the same thing over and over again when a simple search would reveal all. A few months ago there was even a post about a particular problem that was asked and answered 2 days before, he even posted his thread in the same sub forum 2 places above the answered one.

I would check your ethernet settings, if you've never used it chances are it's set to dhcp and will assign an ip within the wifi range. Set it to fixed outwith your wifi and put those settings into your xbox. Do a google for xbox crossover ftp transfer, there will be tons of info and vids out there, no need for vision to re-write whats already been out there for years

Now you need to update to R2, i'm afraid there's no guides for that either so you're on your own

[iJott]

Hahah. That doesn't make sense now does it. If all my questions had been answered in previous threads by other users/posters then I wouldn't have needed to post my own .

Assume I did my job and researched how to install the app. There's a reason the FAQ section of the coinops guide is three pages long, right? I tried several different ways to fix the crash and none seemed to work.

But for anyone in the future that runs into the same problem I had, here's something for the google spiders to display: if the visionary 2 lite app/program crashes/freezes at any point before the games lists pop up try deleting the files and transferring them to the xbox anew. If that doesn't fix it then reduce the size of the v2l package by deleting some roms and artwork you don't want and transferring the package to your xbox. You can thank johnm for that tip .

And if that still doesn't work try setting up your ftp client to 1 max connection/file transfer at a time (to avoid a corrupted transfer).

And if none of that fixes your problem then just PM johnm. Tell 'em I sent ya .

[johnm]

Did you check how big visionary lite was and how much room was left on your 'E' drive   When replying to problems people generally think the user has actually checked they have the room

You must have had failed transfers in your FTP program, it's happened to me, it's probably happened to loads of people, go to file explorer on the xbox and you will see if thats causing all your problems.

BP doesn't use softmods so he makes lite builds to fit on a clean drive, if you have this that and whatever installed it isn't going to fit.

BTW there has been plenty of people that had the problem of coinops lite not fitting, they were told to remove 'stuff' to get it going.

At the end of the day it's a learning experience and people will read this and think i'm glad i'm not that 'noob'   (only joking ) you probably spent ages trying to find a problem with the program when it was just something really simple.

There are discussions about which FTP program people prefer, but it's preference so what i use might not suit anyone else.

[iJott]

Did I check how much room I had on the E drive? Is water wet? Now you're just pretending to be a clown . I not only checked and double-checked, I also checked that all the files transferred successfully in the ftp client. You know, because it's right there clearly visible, duh.

I even compared the files that didn't transfer over and they were 6 none-essential pngs for some roms I didn't even want.

Your reaction is funny because you're making some pretty ignorant assumptions. And you know what they say about assumptions: it makes an "ass" out of "u" and "mption."

Like I said earlier I read there's a locking mechanism in COINOPS if you remove any files from the package, so it only made sense that the same author of Vision would include that feature. You rebel you, you decided it was worth a try to remove them anyway, which fixed the problem. I'm not sure how I learned about Coinops' locking mechanism since I clearly didn't research fixes to my problem. Oh well. We live and learn by MAGIC (apparently).

[johnm]

Ok you did the maths and you knew you would be left with 14kb space, this would leave zero room for the save file or the thumbnails , still not enough room, as i said BP makes this for a clean drive, no multiple apps to get ethernet working, no backup of the c drive. Be happy, it's working and i'm done with the thread.

Enjoy your Xbox!

[iJott]

Enjoy your Xbox!

Thanks johnm! I will thanks to you and your help .

[oca]

Ah, okay, I have never tried the TSOP so I didn't know there was a physical mod involved too. 

FWIW, I ran three modded Xboxes for years.  Two were softmods via the hotswap method.  One was a chip (Xecuter, I think).  Never had a single issue with any of them being unstable.  I never tried to connect any of them to Xbox Live, though.  That is probably no longer an issue anyway.

I've been trying to softmod xbox using the hotswap method. Put ndure in the xboxhdm software and created a CD. When trying to access the HD I get can't find CDROM drive in Dev/hda ..and cant find drive in dev/hda ... How can it not find the CD ROM when xboxhdm is runni g from the CD drive already? What am I doing wrong any help is appreciated

[ark_ader]

Ah, okay, I have never tried the TSOP so I didn't know there was a physical mod involved too. 

FWIW, I ran three modded Xboxes for years.  Two were soft mods via the hot swap method.  One was a chip (Xecuter, I think).  Never had a single issue with any of them being unstable.  I never tried to connect any of them to Xbox Live, though.  That is probably no longer an issue anyway.

I've been trying to softmod xbox using the hotswap method. Put ndure in the xboxhdm software and created a CD. When trying to access the HD I get can't find CDROM drive in Dev/hda ..and cant find drive in dev/hda ... How can it not find the CD ROM when xboxhdm is running from the CD drive already? What am I doing wrong any help is appreciated

Sounds like a PC BIOS issue.

Is the PC hard drive cable select or Master?

[oca]

The dvdrOM is on a sata  connection. My pc hd is on master in bios so when i unplugg it and switch it with xbox hd, the Xbox HD is on the master in bios on ide connection. Thanks for the reply

[ark_ader]

Burn the disc again?   

[oca]

Will try that and post back. Thanks

[Ingesecition]

I already softmodded my xbox another way! No need for anything except a pc, xbox and a cd with the files that install automatically! DO you know if I can connect to Xbox Live? Or a way to play online? Thx

[Brian74]

I already softmodded my xbox another way! No need for anything except a pc, xbox and a cd with the files that install automatically! DO you know if I can connect to Xbox Live? Or a way to play online? Thx

http://www.teamxlink.co.uk/