i wanna know the ending to matrix revolutions!

[william1983]

if you have seen the movie can you tell me how it ended??

i wanna know

[PacManFan]

I saw it Wednesday, and I'm not going to ruin it for you. Go and see it yourself. All I can say is "Epic"

[JackTucky]

Two words, Credits.

[Frostillicus]

one word - disappointing.  

[abrannan]

I saw it Wednesday also, and I couldn't ruin it for you if I tried.  The movie was great, but I just don't get what they were trying to say.  The end credits music was fantastic though.  Love that Juno Reactor!

[helios]

The first matrix was awesome. The second was dissapointing. The third was an utter disaster! I mean really--how can you take such a good movie and make it so BAD!?!? Sorry-- just frustrated.

As far as the ending goes, won't ruin it, but it was the only NON surprise ending possible. So many ending possibilities, and they chose the easy way out. Man....

[Magnet_Eye]

well....

Lots of action, little story. ---smurfy--- as the last one, but better CGI i thought.

Look for the Matrix 4: Dumb and Dumber


PS:
NEO DIES. SMITH DIES.

THE END.  

[APFelon]

I heard it ends when the audience stands up after the film and leaves angry.

I haven't seen it yet, though, so who knows. I am not too optomistic after Reloaded.

[rampy]

duh... try google...

although M3 isn't posted yet... the movie spoiler site does just what you are asking...  so does the movie pooper!

SPOILER ALERT

Anakin Skywalker becomes darth Vader in episode III  =P

Rampy

[shmokes]

It was a total sellout sapfest of an ending.  It's supposed to be this epic...filmed back to back, and then they set it up for more sequels.  Idiots.  And what the hell was with the side story of that wimpy little kid that was a reloader during the Zion attack?  "I believe Neo!"  Dumb.  I thought the fight scenes were a lot better before they could fly.  It was just a charging contest.

The second one wasn't any good either.  What the hell happened?

[Frostillicus]

I thought the second one was pretty good, not  as good as the first, but definitely a good sequel.  The focus was on kung-fu, clearly.  The ending of reloaded was awesome, with the revelation of multiple, prior matrices.

SPOILER ALERT:
Revolutions just seemed really flat.  Neo was really isolated the whole time, and trin just took waaay too long to die.  I hope when I go I have 10 minutes to make a speech.   C'mon she had 3 big rebars sticking in her.  

The machine city was nice CG - those big defender machines were just cool but a tad limited since all it takes is to fly _over_ them.    And the smarmy AI spikey thing at the end - no revelations, no answers, just ...peace.  zuh??  I want to see billions of people wake up at once, like the architect promises.  But I guess they all turned into smith so who knows what that's about.  It did seem like superman 2 there for a second.  Every beginning has an end, but WTF?  Where's the dark, brooding, twisting, disturbing ending I was hoping for??

[SirPoonga]

Heh, I haven't seen it yet but that sounds like what I am expecting to see.  You know smith was just going to screw everything up since in reloaded he found a way to make him self "real" by going into that one man's body at the phone.  The architect didn't think about that type of anomoly.

[Frostillicus]

This guy wrote up a pretty good summary of the theories...I was laughing pretty hard  

[1UP]

I just saw it.  Here's the movie in a nutshell:

Start out slightly confused.  No recap at all of "when we last left Neo..."  Neo wakes up in limbo and gets the lowdown from a really annoyingly sweet 6-year-old and her father.  Some needless $h!t about a train dude that reminds me of the guy on Ghost.  Then a really confusing and unnecessary bunch of crap that takes them to the Oracle's for some completely unhelpful advice from some really old chick that looks nothing like the Oracle, then wraps up with a rediculous Mexican standoff at the Frenchman's, and somehow Neo is finally rescued from limbo.    A completely useless sidestory that accomplishes nothing in moving the story forward.  The movie could have started right after Neo gets jacked out (but wait a second, how did he get jacked in?  Last we saw him, he was on a table with no wires attached.  I thought he didn't NEED to jack in anymore?)

Now the other dude (the one with Smith inside him) wakes up and starts doing a dead-on impression of Smith, but no one around gets what's going on.  Hours of this later, and Neo still doesn't get it until Smith practically whacks him over the head with a big neon sign that says "I'm Agent Smith, dumba$$!!"  (Hey Neo, here's a clue: NOBODY ELSE IN XION calls you "Mr. Anderson!!!")  Smith boils Neo's eyballs with an industrial power cable, then gets his ass kicked by a blindman.  Anyway, Neo decides arbitrarily that he needs to go to the machine city for some reason.

Xion  gears up for a biga$$ showdown with the machines.  They bring out some kickass (but totally unarmored) giant robot suits, which are animated way too fast (considering how slowly all the humans move in all the other fight scenes) breaking any sense of scale, weight, and power.  Nonetheless, this is the high point of the film, as the humans take a serious beating from the invading machines.

Niobe and all the other survivors from the other ships speed at breakneck pace back toward Xion, just in time to open a can of EMF whoopass on the sentinels.  The lameass commander chastizes Niobe for her heroic move, even though the machines cause no trouble for the rest of the film.

Oh, yeah, remember an hour ago when Neo and Trinity left for the machine city?  Yeah that, we almost forgot...  Neo shows more of his real life superpowers by blowing up thousands of sentinels with his outstretched palm.  Then he somehow gets the revelation that they need to go above the clouds.  It's a real Kodak moment, as we get the first glimpse of the sky the way it used to be before us dumb humans decided to artificially cloud it over with black soot (see The Animatrix for all the stupid things we end up doing to deserve the mechanical hell that eventually claims mankind as a power source.)  

Suddenly, the ship plummets, crashing into a tower.  Neo crawls around looking for Trinity.  Hmm, why haven't they shown her lower half for the last 5 minutes?  Oh, she's got 3 industrial-size rebars thru her torso.  Bubbye Trin, you weren't that cute anyway.

Neo finds the big machine Kahuna, and for some reason gets the bright idea to offer to get rid of the Smith-kateer gang in exchange for peace with the humans.  20 minutes of lame-ass kung-fu and a few kickass shockwave effects later, Smith is gone, but the body laying where he falls is the Oracle.  Didn't get that one.

It's unclear whether Neo dies or not, but the rest is a real Scooby-Doo ending (well, as Scoob as you can get after the two main characters are out of commission).  Golly gee whiz everyone!  The war is over!  YAY!!!  

The Wachowskis are hacks.  They had a fluke with the first Matrix, I really doubt that they'll ever do anything worth seeing in the future.  Reloaded and Revolutions were completely uneeded, made just to rake in more money.  Morpheus was totally underused in the sequels.  There are far more answers provided in The Animatrix, specifically the Second Renaissance episodes (which are free online at the Animatrix website BTW)  The first movie could have stood on its own, and actually ended in a much more positive way.  You were left with the feeling that it was only a matter of time before everyone was freed, now that SuperNeo is here.  I didn't need to see 4.5 more hours of story (if you can call it that) to see how it all would go down, especially when it's so disappointing.

The Frenchman should have been blown to a bloody pulp.  Not only was he annoying as hell, he played absolutely no part in the story in either film and wasted huge amounts of screen time in Reloaded.

There were many elements of this film that seemed ripped out of other movies, mainly Aliens and Star Wars.  In fact, if the now watered-down William Gibson (who started the whole cyberpunk genre on which The Matrix is based) were to write a novel based on Aliens and Star Wars, Revolutions would be it.  What's this crap, "you have a connection to the Source?"  The Source is strong with you, young web-walker!  And the whole battle with the new Dozer-dude's girlfriend and Vasquez from Aliens running around in the pipes, while the super-fast-moving powerloaders battle the sentinel, I expected them to start bleeding acid.  A lot of the lines in that sequence even sounded like Aliens.  "Whatever you're gonna do, do it fast!"  and "get away from her, you b!tch!"  Oh wait, maybe no one sait that...

With that, I'm off to the living room to watch a much better Keanu Reeves film, a film that takes full advantage of his awesome acting abilities--Bill and Ted's Excellent Adveture!  What number am I thinking of?  

May the Source be with you.

[Frostillicus]

I really like Bound   so i wouldn't call them hacks.  And every plotline, device, etc from Star Wars, Aliens, Matrix, darn near every 'epic' movie in the last 5 decades have all been direct rips of classic novels, which are rips of Greek tragedies.  The whole archetypal hero thing has been done to death.  I mean, c'mon the magic sword/lightsaber/ excalibur/wire-fu/big gun etc always wins...  

One of the questions I have is why oh why didn't the sentinels, who were so incredibly powerful in the first film (and there were only like 4 of them), not just swarm the giant man-mechs?  They just kept flowing around them, asking to get shot? I would think just one sentinel with Frikkin' Laser Beams would be more than a match for a gun toting mech - and what happened to the EMP being 'the only weapon we have against them' ?  I suppose apart from giant man-bots with 90 calibur twin guns, it is.  Apparently the CG people felt they needed to pad their portfolios a bit by showing off cool particle-sentinel-flowing effects, which looked pretty CG to me (along with every neo flying scene).   Is it like Dada CG? CG for CG's sake?  No real purpose for it - not like it furthers the plot. Oh wait that's just about every movie that comes out these days (including LOtR).  It's just too bad the movie came off like a slighly steamy pile.

[1UP]

I agree with you on Bound, but that wasn't a big mainstream film.

Yeah, you can say that "everything has been done a million times" but some are more blatant rip-offs than others.  There's a difference between inspiration and plagiarism.  Also, if a movie is REALLY REALLY good, I don't care if it's a direct copy of something else, but I didn't like the Matrix sequels, so I'll feel free to rip on it!  Look at Indiana Jones.  Everything from the costumes, to the stunts, to specific scenes and lines of dialogue were taken from old action serials and adventure films.  But the films are so old that most people haven't seen them, and Raiders and Last Crusade were so entertaining that I really don't care where the ideas originally came from.

There are a million problems with the Matrix series, like why don't they just use those lightning guns all the time?  Why use antiquated projectile weapons that have to be reloaded manually?  Why doesn't the matrix just cause the jacked-in characters to have instant death heart attacks rather than sending agents with guns after them?  Why did the humans have to darken the sky in order to fight the solar powered machines, instead of attacking at night?  Why didn't the machines just switch to geothermal power instead of rounding up every human being one by one, building stasis tanks to harvest energy from them all?  I can go on and on.

[Magnet_Eye]

i wanna know why the morons in ZION just didnt have like a thousand EMPs? If they can put one on each ship, why not have some in ZION itself?

omg, so stupid

after the first movie, it got lame. they just tried (and failed) to make up more of a story. the first was all we needed. i cast out the sequels. I will NEVER buy the trilogy box set. I will only own the first movie.

 

[Frostillicus]

There are a million problems with the Matrix series, like why don't they just use those lightning guns all the time?  Why use antiquated projectile weapons that have to be reloaded manually?  Why doesn't the matrix just cause the jacked-in characters to have instant death heart attacks rather than sending agents with guns after them?  Why did the humans have to darken the sky in order to fight the solar powered machines, instead of attacking at night?  Why didn't the machines just switch to geothermal power instead of rounding up every human being one by one, building stasis tanks to harvest energy from them all?  I can go on and on.

LOL - all excellent ?'s.  My fav is the nocturnal attack.  I never understood the agent thing vs instant death (someone's gotta know they are in there).  At first that's kind of why I liked the first one so much- the whole story seemed to just make sense, like it was new and different.  Now I've come to my senses and understand it's just a complete direct rip off of a Ray Bradbury story - of course I forget the name  

[shmokes]

The EMPs got me.  There was never one second I wasn't thinking, "Now, why the hell do they not have any EMPs?  It's not as though they were not counting on an attack.  Zion was apparently built with the machine-war in mind.

And...er....what was up with the end scene.  Was that little girl's power making sunsets?  The Oracle looked at the sunset and then looked at the little girl and said something like, "Did you do that?" in a smarmy, discusting, syrupy tone.

And why did that kid have to get within two feet of the counterweight chain in his mech in order to shoot the chain to open the door for Niobe's ship?  It's not like he was going to cut it with scissors.  

There were holes all over in the first Matix, but you just didn't care.  For example, in the first scene why in the hell did the agents drive to the scene and then walk up the stairs when Trinity, for some inexplicable reason, was sitting in that empty room with a phone.  Why didn't agent smith just take over the body of one of the police officers?

But you didn't care, cos it was a good movie.  These other two movies were so not-compelling, and blatently manipulative that every little, not to mention HUGE, hole or inconsistancy or sappy one liner or dumb-ass irrelevant sidestory or whatever just screamed, "We don't care about making a good movie, only about making lots of money."

dumb...it actually makes me feel much less inclined to put in my DVD of the first Matrix.  When I think of the Matrix in general I think, dumb and juvenile.  I know intellectually that I liked the first movie, but when I look at my DVD collection and come to the Matrix I have no desire to watch it.  Hopefully that feeling fades, cos I really did like the first one.

[Magnet_Eye]

There were holes all over in the first Matix, but you just didn't care.  For example, in the first scene why in the hell did the agents drive to the scene and then walk up the stairs when Trinity, for some inexplicable reason, was sitting in that empty room with a phone.  Why didn't agent smith just take over the body of one of the police officers?

My guess is that so no one realizes it isn't real or that nothing "odd" is really go in on at this point. When I went to see the movie I didn't know anything about it (I saw it the night before it opened). So, there was the shock value. the element of suprise. I am sure for those that saw it after it was out for a while didn't get as much of the impact since they already heard about the story and had seen too many trailers, etc.

 

Ok I have not seen it yet but I did catch a movie every one should see if you can handle sub titles.  They showed "seven samurai" on IFC this Saturday.    

[1UP]

Hey, I guess Neo did die...  I was just thinking about something:  Neo wasn't in Xion during the whole 3rd movie.  Yet everyone kept talking about how they believed in him (get it, they "believed" even though no one could see him.  Sound familiar?)  Also, everyone kept looking heavenward and whispering things toward Neo, as if in prayer.  So it was like he was already a deity.

Also, everything throughout the series seems to have some Judeo-Christian/Greco-Roman parallel (Xion aka Zion being the promised land or heaven, Neo being a savior, Trinity's name, even Morpheus was the god of dreams in Greek mythology) but they really got blatant with some of the imagery during Neo's final scene.  Did you notice the cross of light that appeared over Neo's real-world body when he was fighting Smith in the matrix?  This was his crucifixion scene.  He sacrificed himself for all mankind.  Then there was the whole thing the Oracle said about Neo and Smith being polar opposites.  Very biblical.  I'm surprised they didn't have him getting tempted by the machines for 40 days and 40 nights...

They should have ended the movie with the Van Morisson song "Have I Told You Lately (That I Love You)".  There's a line in there that really fits:

And at the end of the day
we should give thanks and pray
to the One, to the One  

Okay, that's way more thought than I want to give to a stupid movie...

[1UP]

There were holes all over in the first Matix, but you just didn't care.  For example, in the first scene why in the hell did the agents drive to the scene and then walk up the stairs when Trinity, for some inexplicable reason, was sitting in that empty room with a phone.  Why didn't agent smith just take over the body of one of the police officers?

My guess is that so no one realizes it isn't real or that nothing "odd" is really go in on at this point. When I went to see the movie I didn't know anything about it (I saw it the night before it opened). So, there was the shock value. the element of suprise. I am sure for those that saw it after it was out for a while didn't get as much of the impact since they already heard about the story and had seen too many trailers, etc.

 

Yeah, it was the whole discovery that the world that Neo knew wasn't real, and the horrific discovery of how the humans were being used by the machines that made the first one interesting.  That one scene during Morpheus' exposition with the fields of red suspension tanks and the giant buglike harvesters was one of the most disturbing scenes I've ever watched.  I never get creeped out at horror flicks, but that scene just got me.  The whole dark atmosphere of the first film just kind of made you wonder if maybe this life is just a simulation.

Sure, on later analysis, there were lots of holes in logic.  Things like Deja Vu being a glitch in the matrix, things repeating because something has been changed.  But in reality, when you experience a Deja Vu, it's just a feeling that you've seen or heard the exact same thing sometime in the past, not that you actually DO see the same thing twice in five seconds.  But for the flow of the movie it made sense until you thought about it later.  

Anyway, I was literally breathless when I watched it the first time, it was a wild ride.  For the sequels, if I was breathless it was only because of all the sighs of boredom...  

[rampy]

I must admit I was a little underwhelmed .... or how should I say... Dissapointed!

Let me try and bake your noodle a little bit.

with the closing speech.... the oracle "asks" the architect

"what about the others?"

"What others?"

"The ones that want to be free..."

IT is my position that the programs are the protagonists.... and the oracle was merely using neo et al to meet her own goals-> to free the rogue/uneeded programs (like the little girl/others/possibley neo if you think about it in a certain way)
The freedom of the humans/zion were ancilliary, however pivotal to achieve that goal.  THat's the new world order, that uneeded proggies are not deleted anymore...

It would seem daft they'd all of sudden unplug a bunch of the "batteries" willingfully.

ONe thing that bugged me, is why the machines didn't just put a solar cell on a tower that rises above the clouds?  IF they could tunnel to zion and do all this other tech, why is a ladder to complex for them to put together....

FWIW I agree that the Animatrix shorts were way more inteesting and compelling than reloaded/revolutions..

*Shrug*

WHat did that sign in Oracles apartment mean, btw? IT was latin o seomthing...

I wish stuff wasn't so badly explained by trite exposition... oh, so all that stuff built up in M2 vis a vis the artchitect was bs? wilco tango foxtrot!?!?

rampy

[1UP]

I agree with you Rampy.  WTF indeed.  YAY! All the poor mistreated apps got to live...  Who gives a crap!!  So all the human beings get to keep being used as human Duracells, but at least friggin MS Paint gets to survive!  Woohoo!!  So exactly what was the point of the sequels?  That artificial intelligence is more important than human life?  I'm tired of humans being crapped on.  If it isn't the environmental whackos putting the value of trees above people with tree spiking, then it's me getting waxed by C-3PO...  

[Jakobud]

I think you guys have the ending figured wrong.  In the end, the machines were going to stay at peace with the humans (until the next, 7th i think, cycle happens when there is another "the one") and the humans that were enslaved were going to be set free... thats what the architect said in the end.

Everything in the end was ultimately decided by the Oracle.  She manipulated the architect, Smith and Neo in order to end the suffering of the humans.  She knew that the only way to defeat Smith was for Neo and Smith to merge... she was able to tell Neo that he and smith were opposites.... exact opposites.... as in 1 and -1.... so what do you get when you put together 1 and -1?  You get zero.

At the end when Smith stood there and said 'everything that has a beginning has and end' and then he was like 'what did i say?'....that phrase he said was the words of the oracle and Neo recognized that.  He saw that it was the oracle within smith telling neo that it was time and neo stood up knowing that the only way to defeat smith was to combine, since they were opposites.  He did it by choice, thats why smith had such a hard time understanding it all.  He didn't understand choice.

The Oracle knew that the only way for Smith to be defeated was for Neo and Smith to merge.... thats why she so willingly let Smith take over her own shell.  So that when the time came, she could simply say something out of smith's mouth that would get neo's attention so he would know what to do...

So in the end, Smith is defeated, and the matrix is 'reloaded' back to its old state that appears to be the later half of the 20th century.  There is peace for now... but even the oracle knows that this was just the end of the sixth cycle they have gone through and that another 'the one' was going to show up again someday...

[Frostillicus]

The beef I have with Col. Sanders, aka the architect, is that the first time seeing and hearing him felt a little like I was in physics 302 back in college.  Like I had to actually pay attention.  The pace went from explosion! loud bang! death! bullets! to....lecturing on how much the first matrix was a 'triumph equal only by it's monumental failure..." I caught  the words 'concurrently' and 'ergo',  which, by the way, should just be outlawed for general use by anyone who's not a lawyer.  I had to actively listen.  Felt like I had a blue book coming up on it.  I got involved.  Which is fine on some levels, some movies I pay real attention to and some I just put the brain on cruise control (anything with bruce willis, ahnold, etc).

So I was looking for that again, because since the time I'd seen reloaded in the theater I've seen it maybe 5 times on DVD and like the ending revelations a lot.  How can they top the fact of the neverending looping neo/zion destructoin thing? Which is why I was so 'monumentally' disappointed with the 10 seconds of cameo by the architect.  I mean here's a char that is almost completely omnipotent, he 'created' the world that billions of people live in.  He's been pulling the strings of neo/prophecy/zion for hundreds of years just to work his calculation a few more decimal places.  The whole ending with him and the oracle looked like it was thrown together after a test screening ("We need some type of resolution with these two...put them in a park.").  I wanted to see the architect in his natural machine form, and real inhabitants of the machine city, anything more than just a giant spiked swarm-effect ball.  

Still - I'll probably get it on DVD

[shmokes]

The spiked swarmy guy reminded me of a Nintendo boss monster.  Think Metroid, Zelda or Star Fox.

These guys played too many videogames growing up.  

[Jakobud]

The spiked swarmy guy reminded me of a Nintendo boss monster.  Think Metroid, Zelda or Star Fox.

These guys played too many videogames growing up.  

Starfox end boss.... straight up.

[said7]

I thought it was a great movie.

I agree that some things can get out of hand, ie.. in reloaded when the vampire is shooting the car up and the keymaster is sitting straight up and nobody get hit.

But as far as the emps and all that stuff goes i can let it go.

I watched reloaded a day before the revolutions and it made the whole movie make much more sense.

People can be a little too analitical for a movie with such a magnitude. Smaller movies are surely not disected as much.

Still a great movie much better than the second imho.

[Jakobud]

In the second movie after Neo fought the three agents at the beginning... 2 smiths walked up and said something like "excellent... that happened exactly according to plan."  I still have not figured out why they said that or where in the 3rd movie that fits in.

[said7]

In the second movie after Neo fought the three agents at the beginning... 2 smiths walked up and said something like "excellent... that happened exactly according to plan."  I still have not figured out why they said that or where in the 3rd movie that fits in.

Perhaps after NEO fought them he flew away. With neo out of the picture it was possible for him to infect that one dude to enter the human world. Just an idea  

[Frostillicus]

In the second movie after Neo fought the three agents at the beginning... 2 smiths walked up and said something like "excellent... that happened exactly according to plan."  I still have not figured out why they said that or where in the 3rd movie that fits in.

He also said "...everything is happening exactly the same as before." "Well, not _exactly_."

All references are to the master plan of the architect (which is now in it's 6th cycle, we are led to believe) - he has devised the 'prophecy' and the circumstances leading to the 'facilitation' of the one.  Meaning he set in motion actions and situations that would lead all the 'unfactored' (or whatever you want to call it) code to make it's home in Neo.  Hence the choice at the end with the 2 doors:  Come back to source and insert the code Neo's carrying so the architect can more fully understand the paradox of humans rejecting the matrix and rebuild zion with some 20-odd people, or 2nd choice of see ya later human race forever.  Personally I don't know why he'd even offer him the choice, why not just force Neo back into the source in the first place? Unless he has to willingly help the machines (why???).  

Clearly he made a different choice than the last 5 times.   Also explains the bit at the end of revolutions with Smith standing there crying "is it over?" "and I saw you like this before, and now I'm supposed to say <a highly cliched piece of dialogue...>"  

[Brax]

if you have seen the movie can you tell me how it ended??

i wanna know

How did it end? The movie company yoinked a billion dollars from the public. How's that?