Cleanstretch on or off when using d3d?

[jvlk]

I'm running Groovymame on a Nanao ms2931 and instead of ddraw I run d3d, but was wondering what the best ini settings are if you run d3d.

Should i go for cleanstretch on or off?
Better to go vsync or tripplebuffer?

Currently mame ini looks like this.

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# CORE SWITCHRES OPTIONS
#
modeline                  1
monitor                   cga
monitor_connector         auto
monitor_orientation       horizontal
monitor_aspect            4:3
monitor_debug             0
monitor_doublescan        1
monitor_dotclock          0
monitor_ymin              0
soundsync                 1
cleanstretch              1
changeres                 1
redraw                    0
monitor_specs0    15450.00-16050.00, 55-65, 3.19, 4.75, 6.45, 0.191, 0.191, 1.164, 0, 0, 288, 448
monitor_specs1    23900.00-24900.00, 55-65, 2.87, 3.0, 4.44, 0.451, 0.164, 1.148, 0, 0, 480, 768
monitor_specs2    31000.00-32000.00, 55-65, 0.33, 3.58, 1.75, 0.316, 0.063, 1.137, 0, 0, 576, 768
monitor_specs3            auto
monitor_specs4            auto
monitor_specs5            auto
monitor_specs6            auto
monitor_specs7            auto
magic_resolution          auto
powerstrip                0

#
# WINDOWS DEBUGGING OPTIONS
#
oslog                     0
watchdog                  0
debugger_font             "Lucida Console"
debugger_font_size        9

#
# WINDOWS PERFORMANCE OPTIONS
#
priority                  0
multithreading            1
numprocessors             auto
profile                   0
bench                     0

#
# WINDOWS VIDEO OPTIONS
#
video                     d3d
numscreens                1
window                    0
maximize                  1
keepaspect                0
prescale                  1
waitvsync                 1
syncrefresh               1
menu                      0

#
# DIRECTDRAW-SPECIFIC OPTIONS
#
hwstretch                 0

#
# DIRECT3D-SPECIFIC OPTIONS
#
d3dversion                9
filter                    0

#
# DIRECT3D POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
hlsl_enable               0
hlslpath                  hlsl
hlsl_ini_read             0
hlsl_ini_write            0
hlslini                   %g
hlsl_prescale_x           0
hlsl_prescale_y           0
hlsl_preset               -1
hlsl_write               
hlsl_snap_width           2048
hlsl_snap_height          1536
shadow_mask_alpha         0.0
shadow_mask_texture       aperture.png
shadow_mask_x_count       320
shadow_mask_y_count       240
shadow_mask_usize         0.09375
shadow_mask_vsize         0.109375
curvature                 0.0
pincushion                0.0
scanline_alpha            0.0
scanline_size             1.0
scanline_height           0.7
scanline_bright_scale     1.0
scanline_bright_offset    0.0
scanline_jitter           0.0
defocus                   0.0,0.0
converge_x                0.0,0.0,0.0
converge_y                0.0,0.0,0.0
radial_converge_x         0.0,0.0,0.0
radial_converge_y         0.0,0.0,0.0
red_ratio                 1.0,0.0,0.0
grn_ratio                 0.0,1.0,0.0
blu_ratio                 0.0,0.0,1.0
saturation                1.0
offset                    0.0,0.0,0.0
scale                     1.0,1.0,1.0
power                     1.0,1.0,1.0
floor                     0.0,0.0,0.0
phosphor_life             0.0,0.0,0.0
yiq_enable                0
yiq_cc                    3.59754545
yiq_a                     0.5
yiq_b                     0.5
yiq_o                     0.0
yiq_p                     1.0
yiq_n                     1.0
yiq_y                     6.0
yiq_i                     1.2
yiq_q                     0.6
yiq_scan_time             52.6
yiq_phase_count           2

#
# PER-WINDOW VIDEO OPTIONS
#
screen                    auto
aspect                    auto
resolution                auto
view                      auto
screen0                   auto
aspect0                   auto
resolution0               auto
view0                     auto
screen1                   auto
aspect1                   auto
resolution1               auto
view1                     auto
screen2                   auto
aspect2                   auto
resolution2               auto
view2                     auto
screen3                   auto
aspect3                   auto
resolution3               auto
view3                     auto

#
# FULL SCREEN OPTIONS
#
triplebuffer              0
switchres                 1
full_screen_brightness    1.0
full_screen_contrast      1.0
full_screen_gamma         1.0

[Calamity]

GroovyMAME deals with -cleanstretch internally, it only uses it when necessary so I would leave it disabled.
On the other hand I'd leave syncrefresh enabled, as it's by default.
Only use -triplebuffer when your refresh can't reach the required one because of your monitor limitations (vertical games above 256 lines, etc.), in case you dislike the slowed emulation.

[haynor666]

Subject is very old but I would like to discuss it again.

I have problems with this option. No matter how I set it (0,1,2) I've get always games stretched to full screen using floating point scale instead of integer scale. Right now I've disabled modeline to play at work on standard LCD monitor with native 1440x900@60 and what really need at work is only integer scale and syncrefresh.

Is this option only works with modeline option enabled ?

[Calamity]

If you're using an LCD, just leave the defaut settings for -modeline_generation & -modeline options (no need to disable those). In mame.ini, edit:

monitor lcd
aspect 16:10

That will probably be enough.

[haynor666]

Here is what I've changed from default (testing at my home right now with Win7x64 and GTX770, res 1920x1080@60):

syncrefresh               1
autoror                     1
monitor                    lcd
aspect                      16:10


now

autoror from mame.ini does not work now though works if I set it through command line (the same situation is in my arcade PC connected to CRT TV). When this option is invoked through command line game is rotated but cleanstretch is ignored and again game fill entire screen. Right now I don't have LCD with pivot at work but will be very handy when I get new monitor.

game in horizontal position does not fill whole screen as expected but there are still some tearing/stretching artefacts with d3d. Only on ddraw everything is ok so I'll switch at work to ddraw with syncrefresh.

[Calamity]

Switchres (GM's patch) manages rotation options internally. So anything you put in mame.ini will be overridden. The priority of Switchres option auto-setting is just above mame.ini but below specific game's inis and command line. That's how you can force those options through command line.

If you set your rotation options bypassing GM it will fail to assign the proper scaling settings, etc. You must tell GM about your monitor's orientation, and leave those options alone. If you're using a rotating monitor set:

orientation rotate_r

(or rotate_l)

Ddraw and D3D behaviour must be consistent for the most part (at least it is with ATI cards).

[haynor666]

Thanks for help Calamity. This option indeed helps to set up auto rotate.

Today I've finally set up 2 monitor configuration where first one is for horizontal game (monitor type horizontal in mame.ini) and second is vertical (monitor type vertical in vertical.ini). Switching monitors works well but somehow cleanstretch does not work on second monitor. For example running Omega Fighter should give me large black bars on left and right side but groovymame fills entire area. Naturally this produces really nasty effect. When I force this game to run on first monitor everything is fine.

From to do list I read "Add support for modelines on secondary device (Windows)"
But what I can see switchres also works on second monitor. Any advise?

EDIT. I see that switchres actually does not work correctly with second monitor. Good example is Shienryu where game should internally change resolution couple of times so that's probably will be until "Add support for modelines on secondary device (Windows)" is done.