Prometheus

[HaRuMaN]

[rooter]

Someone pointed out something cool about David's fingerprint:

[ark_ader]

I haven't seen Prometheus. But 2001: A Space Odyssey is a terrible film. Most fans, I secretly suspect, like it purely out of social pressure to do so. In short, even having not seen Prometheus, and being only a lukewarm Ridley Scott fan, I find it difficult to belief that it's not a superior film.

Gee. That made sense. 

[SNAAKE]

loved it. no complain.

there are lot of unexplained mysteries but I have my own theories for those situations so its all good. and 3d wasnt obnoxious either. only thing I was curious about is how the "engineer" planned to destroy the earth. wtf did he have on his ship to completely destroy the earth and everyone in it...

micheal fassbender is an excellent android

[danny_galaga]

Maybe my issue now is movie prices.  If I have to pay $25 to see a movie (more if it's 3D)

Jesus Christ! Regular price at my favourite cinemas is I think 8 bucks or so. About 13 for 3D. Cheap enough I don't recall exactly. Admittedly they are undercutting the competitors by about 5 bucks, but even that's what, about 10 bucks cheaper than where you are 

[Cakemeister]

I saw the movie last night in Imax 3D. Visuals were stunning. The story, not so much.

[ChadTower]

Jesus Christ! Regular price at my favourite cinemas is I think 8 bucks or so. About 13 for 3D. Cheap enough I don't recall exactly. Admittedly they are undercutting the competitors by about 5 bucks, but even that's what, about 10 bucks cheaper than where you are 

$13 a ticket is $26 to go when you're married.

[SNAAKE]

I'll be pumping Fandango for free tickets all summer, myself.

 

how?

[ChadTower]

Fandango is the usher at the backdoor of his local theater.

[selfie]

micheal fassbender is an excellent android

Very true. Fassbender was creepy as hell

[ChadTower]

Fassbender was Niles Crane.  Exactly.

[SNAAKE]

 

[SNAAKE]

I posted a link, read the thread.  :-P

Basically you sign up for NetFlix, get your Fandango voucher, and cancel NetFlix.  Use the gmail trick snaake@gmail.com, s.naake@gmail.com, sna.ake@gmail.com etc etc for multiple accounts.  Can also be done with GameFly.  Takes all of 2 minutes.

dont u still need a credit card? dont know about that. last time I had a "trial" they actually charged my card for a month. probably because my brother already has netflix or some BS.

[shmokes]

Fassbender was Niles Crane.  Exactly.

I assume you mean that he was not creepy, seeing as Niles Crane comes off as nearly the most harmless person on the planet. Same goes for his voicing of Abe in the first Hellboy movie. From what I have seen of Fassbender's performance (which is to say, only that teaser trailer where he causes tears to stream down his face while he seems otherwise perfectly content and businesslike) I would definitely characterize it as creepy. And awesome. And creepy.

[BadMouth]

Bleh, ok movie but very disappointed.  
From the previews, I thought it was going to be more thought provoking and and clever.

It was just another alien bad guy movie with scene after scene of things already done to death in the genre.
The final straw was the underground alien ship taking off while the hero has to escape through tunnels with the thrust blowing through them.  
...c'mon think of something new.

I thought the giant white humanoid aliens were cool.  
Too bad they did absolutely nothing different from every other alien antagonist.  

EDIT: Read some of the links in this thread about what Ridley Scott was thinking and what he was going for.
         That's what I was expecting out of the movie, but none of it really comes through.

[ChadTower]

I would definitely characterize it as creepy. And awesome. And creepy.

See the movie.  It wasn't creepy in the slightest.  It was neurotic, slightly effeminate, and lacking empathy.  Basically it was every scifi android cliche you would expect in a maintenance robot that may have a hidden agenda.

If you took HAL and put it in David Hyde Pierce you get Fassbender.

[lordnacho]

Just saw, was no better than any teeny horror movie.  I guess their $1 trillion budget for the mission couldn't afford smart scientists.

A geologist that can map caves, but gets lost walking back out.  A captain that would rather have sex than care about his crew(can't blame him really).  A biologist that wants to play with an alien snake

only thing I was curious about is how the "engineer" planned to destroy the earth. wtf did he have on his ship to completely destroy the earth and everyone in it...

My theory was poisoning the water supply.  That one little drop the android put in the guys drink either was going to kill him or turn him into a monster and immediately made him shoot monster spunk.  The ship was full of that crud

Wait, wtf was the beginning with the "engineer" all about?

[dre-w]

(Sorry I can't hide my text bc of Blackberry so possible SPOILER ALERT) I already asked that.. Supposedly they were creating life..  What I got from that scene was maybe he was betrayed and left behind.. and maybe they were just trying to get the point across that the "black goo" is a big No No.  I got nothing from that scene that would suggest we might have came from them..

[lordnacho]

Sorry, was just rereading the thread. 

Left behind, he started life, they planned to come back to get rid of it.  Hmm I guess. 
Why did the last dude take a nap, hoping for backup someday? 

[BadMouth]

(Sorry I can't hide my text bc of Blackberry so possible SPOILER ALERT) I already asked that.. Supposedly they were creating life..  What I got from that scene was maybe he was betrayed and left behind.. and maybe they were just trying to get the point across that the "black goo" is a big No No.  I got nothing from that scene that would suggest we might have came from them..

Supposedly, it's that they create life through self sacrifice and that gives their creations a soul (and allows them to live forever "as gods" in a way).  
Humans do not, which is why the android cannot have a soul.
It can be argued that this is why the engineer starts killing everyone after looking at the android for a second.

These themes were sporatically dropped in as vague sidenotes, but it was hard to pick up on them because they weren't really worked into the standard issue alien adversary storyline.

(I'm figuring we're on the second page of this thread, so anyone who doesn't want to see spoilers shouldn't be reading this far in anyway)

[dre-w]

LOL!  For sure..  Yeh why was that dude still sleeping..?  Maybe I'm just picking the movie apart at this point but eh..  I thought that ridiculous hologram storytelling method showed them all tryin to escape.  I guess that guy couldve just slept through the whole fiasco..  so Im guessing he was the last of his kind..?  If not whats been going on meanwhile on their home planet.. I mean, did they just give up on trying to destroy us haha

[BadMouth]

LOL!  For sure..  Yeh why was that dude still sleeping..?  Maybe I'm just picking the movie apart at this point but eh..  I thought that ridiculous hologram storytelling method showed them all tryin to escape.  I guess that guy couldve just slept through the whole fiasco..  so Im guessing he was the last of his kind..?  If not whats been going on meanwhile on their home planet.. I mean, did they just give up on trying to destroy us haha

Every question doesn't need an answer.
People wouldn't be talking about the movie if everything was answered.

He was the last of his kind on that moon.  Who knows about elswhere?  I'd assume not.
The stuff was on the moon because they didn't want it on their home planet.

You'll find out about the home planet in the next installment.
They probably already have a trilogy written. 

[ChadTower]

He was the last of his kind on that moon.  Who knows about elswhere?  I'd assume not.
The stuff was on the moon because they didn't want it on their home planet.

Was he?  If there really were ships everywhere how do we have any idea how many of those guys might be sleeping?

BTW, I added spoiler tags to your stuff because it needs them.

[lordnacho]

Not in that one location that was terraformed, at least according to the Pups.  Convenient they found that place right away without having to scan the planet or anything.

[lordnacho]

Great, you just ruined Spiderman 3 for me. 

That's a rough comparison, Spiderman 3 was bad.  I'll never watch again cause of that bar scene.

[dre-w]

I like how you said everything doesnt need an answer and then you attempted to answer my question.. kinda defeats the purpose.  Plus i had already pointed out that i was just picking it apart so nbd and my question really had nothing to do with your reply as to why that stuff is on the moon and not on their home planet.. but thanks though, I was just about to ask that one

[Nbk_Orchid]

After much anticipation, I was finally able to make it to the theater to see this movie this past sunday with my dad.  Even though I am much to young to have been around for the release of the first two movies, I am a huge fan of Alien and Aliens and couldn't wait to have the "space jocky" and ship from the original movie explained.  When I left the theater after watching the movie I could barely believe what I had just seen.  WTF were they thinking when they wrote this script?  This movie just has way to much random ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- in it to make any sense at all. 

A little mystery is good in a movie, for example the "space jocky" and alien ship from the first Alien movie, but this movie had no clear explanation about anything that happened and the characters actions seemed to be unrealistically stupid.  The director seemed like he was trying to do way too much in one movie which resulted in none of it working at all.  The premise for the first two movies was so clean and efficient compared to the jumbled mess we get in Prometheus.   

I could post a huge list of questions that I had after watching the movie but maybe you guys could help me with a few.
1. What is the life cycle of the new alien species the engineers were creating?  A male gets infected with black goo, has sex with a female and she becomes pregnant with a alien.  The alien comes out of her body and then grows into a 300 pound octopus monster.  THEN than creature finds another host and lays eggs inside it and ANOTHER alien comes out of that host?  Why did they make it so complicated.   
2. What ever happened to the guy that had the snake like alien go in his mouth?  Was the the host for another alien?  Why did that section of the plot go nowhere?
3. What is the black goo in the capsules?  It made one character turn into a zombie like creature, one sick and feverish, and makes the engineers explode?
4. Does the director really expected us to believe that a character would decide to back to the engineers structure after she had just had an alien removed from her womb and her husband was infected? Not only that but she goes with the robot character that had basically tried to kill her in the previous scene.

If there are more moves to come after Prometheus you can count me out.  Dont want to feel like this  and this anymore.
     

[danny_galaga]

I've had a sit down and a think, and I'm revising my score down to 3.5/5 from 4/5

[ChadTower]

I'm still trying to figure out why a super ultra mega futuristic medical service unit would be calibrated for men only.  What, we don't have the capability by then to build something that can handle both?  And then the thing can perform heavily invasive foreign object removal surgery, from the uterus no less, well enough that the patient is able to get up and run away under stress?  When did human physiology change such that a painkiller is all that is needed to get up and run away from trauma surgery?

Stuff like that just destroys a movie for me.  I don't need everything to be completely realistic but when we get into things Freddy Krueger couldn't do I lose interest.

[rooter]

I'm still trying to figure out why a super ultra mega futuristic medical service unit would be calibrated for men only.  What, we don't have the capability by then to build something that can handle both?  And then the thing can perform heavily invasive foreign object removal surgery, from the uterus no less, well enough that the patient is able to get up and run away under stress?  When did human physiology change such that a painkiller is all that is needed to get up and run away from trauma surgery?

Stuff like that just destroys a movie for me.  I don't need everything to be completely realistic but when we get into things Freddy Krueger couldn't do I lose interest.

After times in the movie, I caught myself saying, "okay, that's just stupid, but I'm going to let it slide and try to enjoy this."  I managed to enjoy the movie, and I will see it again.

What kind of scientist just takes their helmet off and then starts sticking their fingers in weird goo?

[BadMouth]

Before going in,  I only saw one preview that revealed the aliens in this movie "engineered us".  
I didn't know it had anything to do with the Aliens movies.  I didn't know it was being hyped.

I thought it was a cool concept that the movie could explore in interesting ways.
Instead, it just rehashed every old cliche in the genre.

The engineer behaves no differently than any other space antagonist.  It didn't do anything different.  It just vicously goes after the space crew.
It might as well have been a queen alien, or predator, or blob.  They could have at least shown it to have some kind of higher logic in trying to kill the humans.

My friend's kids who have never seen any of the Aliens or Predator movies thought it was awesome.
It's all new to them.

[HaRuMaN]

They could have at least shown it to have some kind of higher logic in trying to kill the humans.

They created the soulless abomination, David.  Punishment time!

[ChadTower]

I was actually disappointed when the alien woke up and David did not make a joke about having skin just like Maris.

[dre-w]

Since the movie involved having to look stuff up online..  something interesting they could've added is at the end when they woke up the engineer, had him at least say something back in that ancient Sumerian language and then have the people that enjoyed the movie go home eager to look it up and translate what he said..  It might have been better than saying nothing.. imo

[SNAAKE]

They could have at least shown it to have some kind of higher logic in trying to kill the humans.

They created the soulless abomination, David.  Punishment time!

or david asked the space jockey(seth lol) "who created you?" and he was offended

[danny_galaga]

I think if you went into this without any hype you would have enjoyed it.  The problem with us is we're farting around and talking it down after the fact.  Too the point where our resident movie critic is downgrading his score. 

I remember actually kind of enjoying Alien 4 in the movie theater, but I was completely sequestered from any hype or subsequent discussion when it came out.  I've got a feeling it probably REALLY sucks if I watched it now.

I saw it only a few years ago, not knowing anything about it. It doesn't PROBABLY suck