Load GameCube games from your SD card on the Wii

[hypernova]

Don't know when this happened, but seems to have been developing for the past few months.  Checked about a month ago, and found information only about stuff called SNEEK and UNEEK and whatnot.  The steps for these were a little complex, and even somewhat concerning regarding messing something up.  However, new advances have been made, and now we're loading GC games from the SD slot on the Wii.  USB loading still is apparently not possible, with no hints of it happening anytime soon if at all, so we might be stuck with SD for the GC portion.

Here's the guide:
Easy tutorial

There are some issues with extracting ISOs that I've found, and no real way to get around it other than downloading the offending ISOs.  CleanRip does a decent job, but has a problem with a few games, at least for me.  It wouldn't extract Mario Party 5 and LoZ: Ocarina of Time/Master Quest combo, so I've resorted to procuring them from the webs.  There are simply not very many extractors out there, and nearly all PC drives (save for a few LGs) can't read GC discs.  I've searched for a few hours trying to get them to work, but none do correctly.

In addition, some require a disc to be in the drive, such as Metroid Prime (yes, it's released on the Wii, but they've removed most of the sequence breaking opportunities).  There is also an option to save game progress to the SD card, but not all games quite work using that, so you'll need an actual memory card.  Check the compatibility list for all the nuances.  Most games work pretty dang well, and many even work when shrunk, which is an option if you need or want it.

Finally, you'll need a fast SD card.  The guy suggests the highest, which is a class 10, but I've got a class 6, and it seems to work pretty well on the one game I've tried.

[crashwg]

What would say the difference in loading times is?

[Vigo]

  Hot Damn! I'm gonna have to try this out. The only thing that could sweeten the deal is if someone figured out a way to play GC games using a will classic controller. Still, this is awesome news!

[northerngames]

Hot Damn! I'm gonna have to try this out. The only thing that could sweeten the deal is if someone figured out a way to play GC games using a will classic controller. Still, this is awesome news!

get the gamecube version of the classic controller and yer set guy  

I got 4 for the wii 2 classic and 2 classic pro.

2 classic for the gamecube I dont think there official but side by side with the official wii they feel and look the same to me and work great.

I use them instead of the retarted stock gamcecube controller desighn this way it feels more like a ps3 or 360 controller for me that was the worst thing about the GC was that stupid controller desighn.

[northerngames]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-White-Mini-GameCube-Classic-Controller-For-Nintendo-Wii-/221013426933?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item33756d42f5

there is a pro version also just pay attention to the cord end and make sure it is a gc end.

I got mine from hong kong because they were new and cheap and here within 10 day's.

just to try them that price aint bad and if you dont like them make an arcade stick outta them lol.

[northerngames]

reading into it there saying you loose the option of booting backup disk and not sure if they mean the wii part or the gamecub eor both.

if that is the case it may not be all the great afterall.

[hypernova]

Yes, booting backup discs is lost.  This is an issue only if you actually use backup discs.  Most people opt for USB HDDs nowadays, I would think.  One major reason people mod is to lose the disc swapping chore, as well as not using the laser and wearing it down.

Difference in loading times I would say is negligible, though I don't think I saw any comparisons.  I also don't recall load times being too long on the GC, though I didn't play but a few different games, so I definitely am not an authority on that.  I'm just glad I don't have to change anymore discs.

[northerngames]

unless the GC games are on the hdd then your only option is to get legit retail games to load on the sd but then you loose GC and Wii backup compatiblity.

and once the retail games are gone then your screwed becuase you cannot put anything on disk to boot or load etc.

it is a cool new trick but no thanks lol.

[Howard_Casto]

You can't run gamecube games off the HDD, this is the only option to run gamecube games other than burned discs atm. 

I'm not sure why anyone would want to run games off of a disc at this point.  Homebrew is small enough to run off your sd card, which you need anyway.  Everybody I know runs wii backups off of the hdd.  None of your exploits require the use of the disc drive, so I'm not really seeing the drawback of not being able to read burned discs. 

Also you can always put the disc exploit back on the wii... it's no big deal.

The benefit of loading a game onto sd vs burning a disc is that you don't have to burn a disc and consequently waste a disc as you can't really re-burn for gc games.  Also I'm not into backup loaders for the piracy.  I have all my gamecube games on a disc, and although it would be nice to keep them in their cases I'd rather just play them as-is instead of going to the trouble of burning a disc. 

This is probably as good as it will ever get.  Whenever a gc game is loaded the wii goes into gamecube mode and all external ports, extra ram, ect..  is turned off.  The only reason they got the sd hack to work is because the gamecube already had two sd ports....  the memory card slots, so they just hacked the address. 

[hypernova]

Correct.  You can re-enable the backup loading by switching back the MIOS.  It's not permanent.

[northerngames]

ahh, I thought it was permanent where there was no turning back type of thing where it rendered the drive for good and was thinking that may not be a good thing in the long run.

too bad they cannot go off the hdd's yet but this is some progress that may trigger something else down the road to make it happen perhaps..

[Howard_Casto]

ahh, I thought it was permanent where there was no turning back type of thing where it rendered the drive for good and was thinking that may not be a good thing in the long run.

too bad they cannot go off the hdd's yet but this is some progress that may trigger something else down the road to make it happen perhaps..

Read what I said above.  It most likely will never happen.  When a gamecube disc is played the wii goes into "gamecube mode" and all non gamecube hardware is turned off.  The Gc didn't have usb ports. 

[northerngames]

is there not a recent ps3 chip that does the same for the ps2 and ps1 part on the ps3 and if so why would it differ from the GC on the wii?

I may have read it wrong but thought I seen a thread recently about a chip that allows the ps3 to do the ps1 and ps2 again and off the hdd but could be wrong  

not to be smart or rude but statements like that to me are like saying the ps3 could never be hacked and it was in no time it was hacked after launch the person just sat on it for some time is all otherwise it would have been out way sooner.

millions of dollar's said it would never happen but it did 

[Howard_Casto]

is there not a recent ps3 chip that does the same for the ps2 and ps1 part on the ps3 and if so why would it differ from the GC on the wii?

I may have read it wrong but thought I seen a thread recently about a chip that allows the ps3 to do the ps1 and ps2 again and off the hdd but could be wrong  

not to be smart or rude but statements like that to me are like saying the ps3 could never be hacked and it was in no time it was hacked after launch the person just sat on it for some time is all otherwise it would have been out way sooner.

millions of dollar's said it would never happen but it did 

The difference was that was a stupid, ill-informed statement for someone to make.  The Ps3 wasn't even out at the time.  I actually know a little about the hardware of the wii. 

I mean anything CAN be done, but there comes a point to where it just isn't worth the effort is what I mean.  The wii is on it's last legs, so even if it does come about it will probably happen well after the wii's prime and most people won't care anymore.

If you are talking about hardware mods then yes, theoretically anything can be done with hardware.  But modchips are lame, especially on a console that can so easily be soft modded AND actually has more compatability issues with hard mods.  There's device in the works right now, designed for the gamecube that could probably be adapted for the wii.  The problem is it's the caziest, back-asswards thing I've ever seen.  It's a pcb that plugs into the memory slot of the gamecube and shows up as a memory card... this pcb is then connected to a harddrive.  You should be able to see the obvious flaw in this method.... sd cards are much slower than harddrives and you'll have to by a rather expensive pcb.  Now it'll eventually be released and some people will use it, but it isn't very practical...imho it's more impractical than just reading off a sd card.

[crashwg]

Just saw on SlickDeals a 16GB class 10 SD card for $10.50 and I though of this thread.

Here's the link:
http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/73732/newegg-16gb-wintec-filemate-class-10-sdhc-memory-card-3fmsd16gbc10r?token=AAEBBQAAAAAEPEJXtA

[johnm]

A coder has found a way to emulate a Gamecube while in Wii mode, this means using a wiimote with classic controller and usb loading.
Hopefully he'll release soon

!

[hypernova]

The video doesn't really show us anything other than some GC footage, with some apparent GC syntax displayed right before each game is launched.  Found the original post on gbatemp.net, however, it's mostly 11 pages of spam after the initial post, all within the next 48 hours or so until an admin locked it.

The guy (one guy alone, apparently) is coding it by himself, and projected a release date around May.  From the description it does sound similar, especially bug-wise (streaming audio games are an issue as with SD loading).

I'm a bit skeptical of it all right now.  Projects of a scale like this (something that's seemed impossible/incredibly difficult) tend to have a small team attacking it, and this is just one guy.  The thread's been locked, and the OP hasn't requested it reopened in two months.

Hopefully it's legit, but not counting on it.

edit:  Considering he seems to be a mainstay on the forum there, and his posting language just sounds genuine, I think he is telling the truth.  How long it takes him is the only question...

[johnm]

It's not just Devolution though, since info on it was released 'the Crediar' has leaked info on an updated Dios Mios that loads gamecube games from usb, nowadays he wants donations before he releases stuff, and you're limited to gamecube controllers(so no newer wiis can use it) so i prefer the Devolution route.

[northerngames]

is there not a recent ps3 chip that does the same for the ps2 and ps1 part on the ps3 and if so why would it differ from the GC on the wii?

I may have read it wrong but thought I seen a thread recently about a chip that allows the ps3 to do the ps1 and ps2 again and off the hdd but could be wrong  

not to be smart or rude but statements like that to me are like saying the ps3 could never be hacked and it was in no time it was hacked after launch the person just sat on it for some time is all otherwise it would have been out way sooner.

millions of dollar's said it would never happen but it did  

The difference was that was a stupid, ill-informed statement for someone to make.  The Ps3 wasn't even out at the time.  I actually know a little about the hardware of the wii.  

I mean anything CAN be done, but there comes a point to where it just isn't worth the effort is what I mean.  The wii is on it's last legs, so even if it does come about it will probably happen well after the wii's prime and most people won't care anymore.

If you are talking about hardware mods then yes, theoretically anything can be done with hardware.  But modchips are lame, especially on a console that can so easily be soft modded AND actually has more compatability issues with hard mods.  There's device in the works right now, designed for the gamecube that could probably be adapted for the wii.  The problem is it's the caziest, back-asswards thing I've ever seen.  It's a pcb that plugs into the memory slot of the gamecube and shows up as a memory card... this pcb is then connected to a harddrive.  You should be able to see the obvious flaw in this method.... sd cards are much slower than harddrives and you'll have to by a rather expensive pcb.  Now it'll eventually be released and some people will use it, but it isn't very practical...imho it's more impractical than just reading off a sd card.

what I meant was sony said it would never be hacked and it was hacked within the first few week's of it being launched it was just the guy behind it was scarrred shitless of sony's recourse and sat on it all that time.

now for the comment in the second paragraph it is kinda Ironic: what just happened here and what was done again and why are we looking at this if the console is dead.

also something like this can be the key others were looking for over the past years and now can finish that project with this newer setup that would now allow them to finish that code to get it going on usb within week's type of thing.

dont matter what you know about any system until somebody applies the knowlege, put's it to use and then makes it available to other's.

no different then me saying I made the best game there ever was for the wii but I will never release it.

I just got a new game informer in and from what I can tell sony xbox and the wii are not going anywhere anytime soon so we got time for the others to make this happen still.

also what does the gamecube part have to do with the wii games or console dying off again and could care less if they stop making wii games today as that has nothing to do with playing "gamecube" games off a hdd on the wii.

me I think it would be cool now or 5 years from now becuase nothing else emu's it right period and it is a console that has been dead for years but we still play it today and off the SD as it appears to me in this thread so that tell's me with my own two eye's that the GC still has a home and purpose I mean it has been a "dead" console for how many years and what are we even doing here reading this now for man.

Nes has been dead for some time too but how many of you still try different emu's on how many different systems and OS's and you tried them how many years after the console has been dead and why again .    

[SavannahLion]

you're limited to gamecube controllers(so no newer wiis can use it)

About that... besides the moronic move (two separate models are still sold and supported, thanks for confusing costumers even more Nintendo) Does anyone know if the new model Wii still has the flip panel where the GCN ports were? From what I can tell, it looks like it does, so what's  behind that door now? Just a blank panel? I also heard rumors the disc drive is different too, but I haven't found a technical breakdown of the new console yet to get concrete answers on that.

I'm of the personal opinion that removing the GCN ports is a bit shortsighted. The females in my household still suffer from DDR fever and warnings like this one from ddrgame.com, "DISCLAIMER: All Nintendo Wii Dance Pads will not be compatible with the version of the Nintendo Wii console that does not have the Game Cube controller ports. Please make sure that your Nintendo Wii console that has the Game Cube ports before selecting any Dance Pads for purchase.

Of course, the whole DDR-Like pad business is utterly boneheaded. Such as this message from the same website, "Our DDRGAME branded Wii dance pads are compatible with DDR Hottest Party, DDR Hottest Party 2, DDR Hottest Party 3 and DanceDanceRevolution dance games for Nintendo Wii." If you play the DDR-style stuff (or have to shell out money to keep the wife happy) and own a Wii, you know exactly what this ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- means.

[johnm]

All the solder points are still on the board of the new wii's, they just removed the ports, memory slots and resistors. DeadlyFoez over at GBAtemp successfully added all the missing components to get one up and running, though from what i hear it's a bit hit and miss with running camecube games from disc as some drives wont recognise the discs. Wii's are so cheap nowadays it's probably cheaper to buy an older one than to mod one of the newer ones.
http://gbatemp.net/topic/326683-wii-raffle-wrap-up/

[shmokes]

This is great news, but absent classic controller support it's useless for me. Got rid of my Wavebird. Also, stop hating on the GC controller. That thing was a masterpiece! Best gamepad ever made.

[northerngames]

what is the absent classic controller support mean?

like I have 2 that plug into the gc ports and have 4 that go into the wiimote.

there all useless or?

[shmokes]

Those aren't classic controllers. They're another product, made by another company, that work totally different than classic controllers. Obviously those are not the product I'm talking about.

[northerngames]

that is what I am asking is what your talking about becuase I dont understand.

the gc one's I have are a 3rd party but I cannot tell the differnce in the 2 beside the plug ends.

they look, feel and work the same as the wii versions.

but I dont understand what you mean like the wii part no longer has classic controller support or?

[shmokes]

I have a Wii Classic controller. Gamecube games cannot be controlled with Wii Classic controllers. Hence, absent Wii Classic controller support, this is useless for me.

[Vigo]

I have a Wii Classic controller. Gamecube games cannot be controlled with Wii Classic controllers. Hence, absent Wii Classic controller support, this is useless for me.

I hear ya there.....stupid that they designed the wii to not accept classic controller for GC Games.

[northerngames]

I have a Wii Classic controller. Gamecube games cannot be controlled with Wii Classic controllers. Hence, absent Wii Classic controller support, this is useless for me.

no you just choose to be too picky is from what I am understanding and why I am asking.

if you guy's have not tried the GC version of the classic controller dont knock it till you try it and to me it just sounds like you two are being silly and not willing to fork out $10.00 to be happy lol.

not trying to be harsh but I dont get it still haha.

so if I plug my classic controllers into the gamecube port on the wii then my classic controllers that are made for the GC will still work correct as the only difference is there is not a nintendo stamp on the back althought the ring and impression are there and it goes to the gc ports instead of the wiimote?

also you could take the 3rd party pcb and put it the official one and the only one that would know is you as long as you dont tell anyone else our simple solution secret here    



I gotts work tommorow but I can throw some side by side pics up just so you guy's can see the one's I have are the same thing they look and feel like the wii one's and the molds are the same butons pads etc. and if that is not good enough then use the official one's instead.

[shmokes]

I totally get that you have those controllers. They sound really really really really really really really special. But I already gave my Gamecube to my nieces years ago. Playing Gamecube games today isn't worth spending money on or hacking a controller and, frankly, even if it were free I wouldn't particularly want another gamepad laying around for the sole purpose of playing Gamecube games--something I'll rarely do. But, seriously, your Hong Kong controllers are noted. I noted them way up at the top of this thread when you described them to someone else. The sound neat. I just don't want them.

[northerngames]

cool, I thought you had an interest since you posted in the thread and I had a simple solution for using a classic controller still.

I also wanted to get that out there so others that still play and actually have an interest in this topic that there is a way to get that classic controller feel and to work still is all.

I must now say that it is still really really really really really really really really really silly and ironic to come in this thread and gripe about something you have no interest in though, I mean WTF dude!!

[shmokes]

I'm not interested in the Classic Controller feel. Like I said, I think the Gamecube controller is the best gamepad ever made. I'm interested in the Classic Controller. As in, because I own one, and it would (and should, frankly) function just fine as a Gamecube controller. It's asinine that it doesn't out of the box. I came into this thread because I'd love to be able to play Gamecube games on my Wii. I just wouldn't love it enough to purchase a dedicated controller for it.

[johnm]

Dios Mios light 2 release..

http://code.google.com/p/diosmios/downloads/detail?name=DIOS%20MIOS%20v2.0.wad&can=2&q=#makechanges

[northerngames]

is there a link to a readme revision on it?

[johnm]

Devolution has been released

http://gbatemp.net/topic/330554-devolution-public-release/page__st__390

[Ginsu Victim]

Devolution has been released

http://gbatemp.net/topic/330554-devolution-public-release/page__st__390

Great, something else to take up my time...

Thanks for letting us know.