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Author Topic: Dead or alive, you're coming with me.  (Read 14165 times)

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Re: Dead or alive, you're coming with me.
« Reply #80 on: April 02, 2012, 11:37:34 am »
Good Job. You just made Mario Van Peebles Cry.

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Re: Dead or alive, you're coming with me.
« Reply #81 on: April 02, 2012, 11:59:02 am »
So how much of Murphy physically did they keep for Robocop? I always wondered if his face was real or synthetic. I mean, he never has to shave, not even a 5:00 shadow. Also, how does he poop? He has got to have a fecal port on him, but where?

Sorry, Robocop pooping is by far much more interesting to me than arguing over the definition of buttrock.  :dunno

See, thats the thing, they arent very consistent on that. In the original, they say that he needs to eat to "sustain his organic system", which I think is awesome. He has his brain, and his face, some of his spine, and some of his nervous system. They never mention anything about his face being synthetic. Then in the second movie, Frank Miller got a hold of Murph and changed a bunch of stuff. They didnt mention him eating at all, then he had Murphy tell his wife that they made his face to honor him so she would stop thinking about him and left it at that. Then the doctor said "you are just a couple of chunks, not even a corpse". But how much does one really need to be considered human? Some nerve endings? Just a portion of the brain? Thats why I always thought Robocop was so cool, there is some much room to expand on the character. Fecal port.  :lol Then again, if his system is THAT effiecient, then he wouldnt need to poop right?

Im with you on that Vigo, this whole "buttrock" thing is borderline retarded.  ::)
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Re: Dead or alive, you're coming with me.
« Reply #82 on: April 02, 2012, 12:45:05 pm »
It never registered to me that that was an artistic change between the first and second movies. (I guess I was just too busy noticing that they changed his armor to some rainbow color changing paint scheme.) From the first film, I had the impression that most of Murphy's core was human. Computer interfaced with his brain, probably most of his organs were synthetic. I thought his face was real, and I think they even kept the bullet wound in his skull.

Then the second film I really had the impression that all was kept was just the same as the villian. Brain, eyes, spinal column. I never even thought about him not eating, but you are right. I guess it could be that robocop had no digestive system from the beginning and that the baby food stuff is about that can be synthetically digested.

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Re: Dead or alive, you're coming with me.
« Reply #83 on: April 02, 2012, 01:07:52 pm »
Oh man, the change and tone were isanely different. They said the frank millers sequel couldnt be filmed, and the guy that directed it (Irv Kershner, did Empire Strikes Back) signed on to do the original script but the studio said hell no. I hated the plastic/blue look of the armor in the second one. The suit had a better design(the butt didnt wiggle when he walked when shot from the back) but his movements were way too mechanical, and he looked like a toy (all the plastic was too damn shiny)

They say in the first one that they want "total body prosthesis" so I guess that means he doesnt have any real parts, like arms or legs. Yeah, I was under the impression that it was his face, and yes, they kept the bullet hole. It was a plug. The effects/makeup/suit from the original were so awesome, and it was considered low budget too.

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Re: Dead or alive, you're coming with me.
« Reply #84 on: April 02, 2012, 01:52:28 pm »
Good Job. You just made Mario Van Peebles Cry.
Pretty sure that was Gunny Highway who made him cry in Heartbreak Ridge. 

And the second sequel was worse than the first sequel!

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Re: Dead or alive, you're coming with me.
« Reply #85 on: April 02, 2012, 01:54:21 pm »
Oh man, the change and tone were isanely different. They said the frank millers sequel couldnt be filmed, and the guy that directed it (Irv Kershner, did Empire Strikes Back) signed on to do the original script but the studio said hell no. I hated the plastic/blue look of the armor in the second one. The suit had a better design(the butt didnt wiggle when he walked when shot from the back) but his movements were way too mechanical, and he looked like a toy (all the plastic was too damn shiny)

They say in the first one that they want "total body prosthesis" so I guess that means he doesnt have any real parts, like arms or legs. Yeah, I was under the impression that it was his face, and yes, they kept the bullet hole. It was a plug. The effects/makeup/suit from the original were so awesome, and it was considered low budget too.



Very interesting about the sequel! I hated the paint scheme as well, I wish they would have just kept or improved on the brushed steel look. I am guessing it probably looked much cooler off film or something, because I don't get why they would make the change to the plastic look.

It's been a couple years since I saw either Robocop movie. I think I will have to give them another watch side by side to compare the two.

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Re: Dead or alive, you're coming with me.
« Reply #86 on: April 02, 2012, 01:57:57 pm »
Good Job. You just made Mario Van Peebles Cry.
Pretty sure that was Gunny Highway who made him cry in Heartbreak Ridge. 

And the second sequel was worse than the first sequel!

 :lol He might just be crying the his name is Mario Van Peebles. It's a little hard to hold a badass persona when people mix your name up with a children's breakfast cereal.

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Re: Dead or alive, you're coming with me.
« Reply #87 on: April 02, 2012, 02:47:53 pm »
Yeah man, watch em again. The first one holds up perfectly. I actually prefer the stop motion of ED 209 vs the stupid CG they are gonna do in the remake. The second one, although extremely violent, isnt any good, and the third one is pointless, dont bother.

As a matter of fact I just got the original on blu ray this last weekend!  ;D
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Re: Dead or alive, you're coming with me.
« Reply #88 on: April 02, 2012, 03:40:17 pm »
Good Job. You just made Mario Van Peebles Cry.

I had to think about that one for a second.  :laugh2:

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Re: Dead or alive, you're coming with me.
« Reply #89 on: April 02, 2012, 06:52:01 pm »
I never saw 3 and I haven't watched 2 in a while but I remember liking it. The forst one i watch pretty regularly. It's a timeless classic.

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Re: Dead or alive, you're coming with me.
« Reply #90 on: April 03, 2012, 12:08:46 pm »
I never saw 3 and I haven't watched 2 in a while but I remember liking it. The forst one i watch pretty regularly. It's a timeless classic.

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