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Today I learned that downloading a VC title and attempting to inject another ROM into it constitutes being "on the ground floor of the wii hacking scene" and being "in the wii scene for a bit too".


Can't wait to tell my grandkids!!!


 

Nobody said anything about attempting to inject other roms. I guess I am somehow supposed to take offense to this. Then again, we all know your demeanor on these forums, comes up in all of your posts. Maybe you should come back and join this thread with some meaningful discussion when you have something  more intelligible to write about in the conversation that involves more than one brain cell. 

Be sure to tell that to the grandkids as well.

[lilshawn]

doesn't matter since the world is going to end in 2012 

[Howard_Casto]

Today I learned that downloading a VC title and attempting to inject another ROM into it constitutes being "on the ground floor of the wii hacking scene" and being "in the wii scene for a bit too".


Can't wait to tell my grandkids!!!


 

Nobody said anything about attempting to inject other roms. I guess I am somehow supposed to take offense to this. Then again, we all know your demeanor on these forums, comes up in all of your posts. Maybe you should come back and join this thread with some meaningful discussion when you have something  more intelligible to write about in the conversation that involves more than one brain cell. 

Be sure to tell that to the grandkids as well.

I think that was a knock at me, which is unfortunate.  Most of my old work goes unnoticed because at this point the wii scene has moved on to third party emulators, and I won't get into what I am and am not responsible for for legal reasons, but rest assured, it isn't just injecting roms into wads.  And if you knew what a nightmare it is for a few of the VC emulators, you wouldn't take rom injecting so lightly either.

[lilshawn]

just to side track since that's what everyone does nowadays...

does anybody else think the amount of ads on the xbox360 menus a little ridiculous? I mean i paid for it, and i buy the games, why are there ads on it?

If i download free software i'll put up with ads, if i want them gone, i'll buy the software. isn't that how it's supposed to work?

let's boycott Microsoft for making me look at ads on a system I paid for. what's next, pausing halfway through COD to make me watch a Toyota Yaris ad?! 

[Howard_Casto]

just to side track since that's what everyone does nowadays...

does anybody else think the amount of ads on the xbox360 menus a little ridiculous? I mean i paid for it, and i buy the games, why are there ads on it?

If i download free software i'll put up with ads, if i want them gone, i'll buy the software. isn't that how it's supposed to work?

let's boycott Microsoft for making me look at ads on a system I paid for. what's next, pausing halfway through COD to make me watch a Toyota Yaris ad?! 

I agree 100%.  I also agree with what pbj is talking about as well.  They recently added a youtube app to the 360, for example.  Now I thought... "cool!  I can watch old shows and stuff for free from my xbox!"  So I fired it up and it says I need a gold subscription.  Why?  I mean last time I checked toutube doesn't connect to microsoft's servers, it connects to the internet... I pay for the internet seperately.  So why do I need a gold account to connect to the internet again?  And they can't say that it's a microsoft policy either because UbiSoft games get around this via their UPlay service for free dlc. 

That being said, I think in the scheme of giant rip-offs we've got bigger fish to fry.  I pay for cable and yet every channel has ads on it.  Lots of people pay a subscription for tivo, which is a glorified vcr when there is no reason that the tivo box needs to connect to tivo's servers to work.  Since the digital conversion all channels broadcast their lineup via the extra bandwidth.... so a schedule of shows is now freely available.  Not only that, but modifying a tivo to use such a free service would be considered illegal. 


Long story short, companies are always trying to screw us.  I guess we just need to pick our battles. 

[Well Fed Games]

just to side track since that's what everyone does nowadays...

does anybody else think the amount of ads on the xbox360 menus a little ridiculous? I mean i paid for it, and i buy the games, why are there ads on it?....

let's boycott Microsoft for making me look at ads on a system I paid for. what's next, pausing halfway through COD to make me watch a Toyota Yaris ad?! 

 I agree. While I don't pay for Live myself, I still think the ads are overboard. I may start unplugging the internet from it, since I have a backlog of XBL games and don't play online (I just use it for updates and such). Probably the worst ad I ever saw was on an EA game though- when you start Need For Speed: Most Wanted up, it gives you an unskippable (one time) ad for a future game of theirs. I was livid.

Furthermore, if you've bought a game on your Xbox via Live, why does the Xbox need to be internet connected to let you play it? 

Agreed. Not sure if it is true for all XBL Arcade content (a one-player game like Pac Man CE, for instance, works offline), but I am sure it is the case for XBL Indie games- which legitimately does stop me from buying some of them.

[ark_ader]

just to side track since that's what everyone does nowadays...

does anybody else think the amount of ads on the xbox360 menus a little ridiculous? I mean i paid for it, and i buy the games, why are there ads on it?

If i download free software i'll put up with ads, if i want them gone, i'll buy the software. isn't that how it's supposed to work?

let's boycott Microsoft for making me look at ads on a system I paid for. what's next, pausing halfway through COD to make me watch a Toyota Yaris ad?! 

The target market to buy cars, colones, mortgages and insurance is locked into console gaming.  Why not target advertisements to that demographic?  Sounds pretty reasonable to me.  What I find unreasonable is to pay for SKY TV, use their SKY Player on the 360 and have to be subjected to adverts.  I pay my BBC license do I get advertisements?  Nope.  Go Figure.

Please boycott Microsoft Live.  Please keep away from using the service.  The less people logging on the better, that way I can play BF3 without the lag.  Thank you!   

[Well Fed Games]

The target market to buy cars, colones, mortgages and insurance is locked into console gaming.  Why not target advertisements to that demographic?  Sounds pretty reasonable to me. 

It makes sense from a corporate standpoint, yes. But from a user standpoint... I would rather not have ads. It makes sense corporately for websites to have garish ads all over the place... but from a user standpoint I use adblock.

[lilshawn]

i propose this...

if i want basic conectivity for updates (MSL free)... no online gaming, no nothing... no ads. there is no need to push crap while i update.,

if i want a free MSL gold, i can have ads like it is now. cool. online gaming, youtube, twitter etc... I'll watch ads for that.

if i want, i can pay for a subscription to MSL Platinum (we will call it) and have no ads. eff off.

[shmokes]

It doesn't even make sense from a corporate standpoint. Customer goodwill is an extremely valuable commodity. Understanding WHY they do it doesn't make what they're doing reasonable. People don't like being taken advantage of. When you sense that your mechanic is screwing you, you find a new mechanic. What Microsoft is doing makes its customers hate them a little for it. Things like this add up and lead to disloyalty.

[BobA]

This is almost as bad as paying for a movie and having to see ads on the screen along with paying for over priced pop and stale popcorn.   Even with free passes a move is overpriced.

[lilshawn]

This is almost as bad as paying for a movie and having to see ads on the screen along with paying for over priced pop and stale popcorn.   Even with free passes a move is overpriced.

some reason i expect an ad to appear on the bottom of the movie screen after the first few minutes.



i especially hate it when a video is subtitled and then BAM!, your'e left hanging as to what was said due to troll ad.

[wizkid32]

On the topic of Nintendo being a saint, Microsoft at least released some game packages.  Sony, on the other hand, sucks!!!!!!!!

[shmokes]

I'm not sure what you mean by that . . .

[Howard_Casto]

It doesn't even make sense from a corporate standpoint. Customer goodwill is an extremely valuable commodity. Understanding WHY they do it doesn't make what they're doing reasonable. People don't like being taken advantage of. When you sense that your mechanic is screwing you, you find a new mechanic. What Microsoft is doing makes its customers hate them a little for it. Things like this add up and lead to disloyalty.

I agree.  I just don't think that we can do anything about it.  As frustrating as their policies are, people still pay for a live subscription and they will continue to do so WHILE COMPLAINING.  It doesn't work that way.  A company is only going to listen to your complaints if it effects sales.  If you have a problem with live then don't use live.  If you use live anyway then it must not be that much of a problem.    I HATE the DLC model, for example, but I realize that there isn't anything I can do about it.  When people are still willing to pay 20 bucks for horse armor we don't have a chance for change.  

What are the alternatives anyway?  Nintendo is FINALLY getting on board, but for the longest time the internet just didn't exist in their eyes.  You think that Sony is going to be a force to be reckoned with what with their free alternative and then they drop the ball with their crappy security and have thousands of credit card numbers exposed.  There is of course PC gaming, but it seems like anymore every big online title is tethered to either steam or games for windows(aka "pc live") and they have quite similar faults.

Ugh, I don't want to think about it.  Off to play some skyward sword.

[Bootay]

Furthermore, if you've bought a game on your Xbox via Live, why does the Xbox need to be internet connected to let you play it? 

I just set up my uncle with a new Xbox and a bunch of paid downloads and just gave in and bought him a year of Xbox Live Gold that he will never use for anything, but I just want to ensure he can actually play the games I paid for.  Disgusting.

You also have to be internet connected to play video files (.avi, .mpg) on the 360. If you try and play videos without an internet connection it will say that the codec cannot be found and then it urges you to connect to Live to find the codecs. Pretty stupid.

I understand why they did it though. They didn't want people modding the 360 so that it could be another media center like what happened to the Xbox1. LOL
I wonder if these alt dashboards that are being installed on jtagged and ghed 360s get around this. Would be cool to have XBMC on a 360.

[lilshawn]

If you have a problem with live then don't use live.

if you don't use live, you can't use your xbox. i have to update my xbox 3 times just to play a game. apparently i need to update to run the game then a new dashboard, then the game needs another update to fix issues.

and what gets me is when i do select something to download, like netflix or youtube, it downloads like 50mb, installs,, then when i run it, it has to be updated for another 50mb?!? WTF didn't you idiots give me the updated software to begin with?!?! 

i've only had my 360 for a few months and i'm almost ready to smack it open and give M$ the whatfor.

[saint]

If you have a problem with live then don't use live.

if you don't use live, you can't use your Xbox.

We've had our Xbox for 12 months now and haven't had live. The one time we bought a game that needed an update it just did it for us. It's not even connected to the net.

[wizkid32]

Getting a little bit off topic...

[Mikezilla]

Getting a little bit off topic...

It happens. Its an internet forum... 

[wizkid32]

Getting a little bit off topic...

It happens. Its an internet forum... 

Touche!   

I'm not sure what you mean by that . . .

That was me getting off topic.  I was thinking of their arcade game packs, but that is not really applicable...

[Bootay]

If you have a problem with live then don't use live.

if you don't use live, you can't use your Xbox.

We've had our Xbox for 12 months now and haven't had live. The one time we bought a game that needed an update it just did it for us. It's not even connected to the net.

Yep. Games that require an update generally have the update included on the disc. My 360 has never been online and I've had it 4 years.

[amendonz]

eer i just loaded up a game i downloaded on xbl on my xbox, xbox definitely not connected online at the moment. you don't even need gold to have your xbox connected anyway. not sure what you're on about pbj

[wizkid32]

Wii's internet app seems clean, from what I can tell.  I don't have it though, as per my boycott. 

[danny_galaga]

This is almost as bad as paying for a movie and having to see ads on the screen along with paying for over priced pop and stale popcorn.   Even with free passes a move is overpriced.

Not where I go to see movies, they charge half price, but get more than twice as many customers as they used to. Such a simple idea, dunno why more people don't try it...