if you got a hold of a time machine, what would you do?

[Howard_Casto]

Ok so one of you says that they are gonna splooge in the primordial ooze and THAT is the part you argue about?

I worry about both of you!


"Oo that looks really important!  Let me stick my junk in it!"

[Gray_Area]

Space/Time - hence, along one 'axis' you travel in time; along another, you travel in space.

I'm not sure how space travel has to do with invulnerability but...

I intened to live forever so I've got that one covered.  Even if I die I'll just beat the reaper at a wicked game of twister and get to come back. 

I'm pretty sure that if you are immortal you are also invulnerable.  People throw around that term too loosely.  Example:  Vampires are NOT immortal becuase you can kill them.  They don't age but they aren't free from death and therefore are not immortal.  Regardless I can't be killed by conventional methods, so that's good enough for me. 

Omnisence.... hmm.... well I don't know everything but really I just have to know more than the people around me to get that superior feeling flowing.  Thankfully, I'm constantly surrounded by morons. 

Only Howard thoughtfully addressed this. However.

- immortality means you don't age

- invulnerability means you can't be destroyed

Invoking a non-causality field around yourself satisfies those. Omniscience would come from plucking the information from the hologram of the Cosmos. (All-knowing doesn't inherently mean 'simultaneously'.)

The ultimate bit through these is to manifest your imagination.

I was thinking the same thing until I remembered the movie Death Becomes Her.  In the movie they are immortal, but not invulnerable and it shows the problems that can occur with that situation.

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I just last night added this to my viewing cue, after it was auto-suggested to me.

[jennifer]

    The past has been tampered with...... I"m fadeing from this thread [Jennifer strikes death pose], Oh what a world....I"m melting...
POOF glitter everywhere!

[Mikezilla]

EVen though that picture makes her look more retarded than normal, I still think Sarah Palin is hot. 

[HaRuMaN]

EVen though that picture makes her look more retarded than normal, I still think Sarah Palin is hot. 

Ugh, wtf is wrong with you?

[danny_galaga]

EVen though that picture makes her look more retarded than normal, I still think Sarah Palin is hot. 

[Howard_Casto]

EVen though that picture makes her look more retarded than normal, I still think Sarah Palin is hot. 

Considering the Fonz went after Laverne at one point, he'd literally hit anything with a vagina.

[Vigo]

Come on, the Fonz never went after any girl. Laverne might have been one of his standbys, but that was only because she had skills that made up for her mild dogface issues. She walked around with a hunched back for a reason.

[Mikezilla]

EVen though that picture makes her look more retarded than normal, I still think Sarah Palin is hot. 

Ugh, wtf is wrong with you?

I guess I shouldnt have said hot... But she is still attractive in a sexy librarian, secretary way. You dont think so? For a politician? Cmon. 

[Vigo]

Haha, I'm on board with you. If we are talking worldwide female politicians, there are plenty much hotter. I have seen some pics of foreign female politicians on near supermodel level.  I really can't think of many better looking US politicians though. Maybe a few that are on the same level of attractiveness, but that's it. Well, unless the Susan B Anthony type happens to turn you on.   

[danny_galaga]

EVen though that picture makes her look more retarded than normal, I still think Sarah Palin is hot. 

Considering the Fonz went after Laverne at one point, he'd literally hit anything with a vagina.

The Fonz and I have this in common...

[fallacy]

I was just watching into the Universe with Stephen Hawking last night. He said time Travel into the past is imposable. Ow well so much for this fantasy, shut it down!
http://movies.netflix.com/WiPlayer?movieid=70211618&trkid=4705341#MovieId=70211618&EpisodeMovieId=70209126

[AtomSmasher]

Sending matter into the past might be theoretically impossible, but sending energy into the past might not be.  There was a short lived tv series a while back called Odyssey 5 where a group of astronauts get sent back in time to stop the world from being destroyed.  The being that sent them back said it's impossible to send them back as they are now, but he could imprint their minds and memories of today into their bodies 5 years earlier.  It was an interesting take on the subject.

[Mikezilla]

Haha, I'm on board with you. If we are talking worldwide female politicians, there are plenty much hotter. I have seen some pics of foreign female politicians on near supermodel level.  I really can't think of many better looking US politicians though. Maybe a few that are on the same level of attractiveness, but that's it. Well, unless the Susan B Anthony type happens to turn you on.   

Oh yeah youre right about that. Venezuela has some AMAZING politicians lol. I looked it up when I got home, cause as you know, cant do it at work. 

No, that type does NOT turn me on! 

[fallacy]

I wouldn't take anything you've heard as a Stephen Hawking quote seriously unless he said it in the 80s or earlier.

Does not matter, even if he went about his theories a bit silly. I don’t believe there is any string of time, a recording that you can go back to. Time is now and that is all there is.

[Howard_Casto]

While I don't think human time travel is possible (again if it were we'd see buttloads of "time tourists")  time is indeed a physical thing and any physical thing is definite enough to revisit. 

The problem with time is physicists are talking about actual time, which is a property of space (spacetime) while lamens are talking about the PERCEPTION of time, which is drastically different. 

Example:

People can't seem to get a grasp on the concept of gravity.  This is due to our limited perception of gravity.  If you are standing in a field gravity is a "thing that makes things fall down"  If you point to a globe gravity is a "thing the makes things pull towards the center". 

What gravity actually is, is a warp in space time around an object due to it's mass.  Think of pressing a marble in the mud.  Now pour water in the general area of where the marble is and it will feverishly wick in the tiny gap between the marble and the mud, trying to fill the void in the space.  This is more how gravity ACTUALLY works. 

And now that you can see gravity as a physical thing, the theory of realitivity is much easier to grasp.  Time operates differently the further away you get from the earth because you are slowing pulling yourself out of the spacetime void around the planet. 


And with that, my brain just overheated... nap time!

[AtomSmasher]

Gravity is just a theory, no ones been able to prove it actually exists

[ark_ader]

While I don't think human time travel is possible (again if it were we'd see buttloads of "time tourists")  time is indeed a physical thing and any physical thing is definite enough to revisit. 

The problem with time is physicists are talking about actual time, which is a property of space (spacetime) while lamens are talking about the PERCEPTION of time, which is drastically different. 

Example:

People can't seem to get a grasp on the concept of gravity.  This is due to our limited perception of gravity.  If you are standing in a field gravity is a "thing that makes things fall down"  If you point to a globe gravity is a "thing the makes things pull towards the center". 

What gravity actually is, is a warp in space time around an object due to it's mass.  Think of pressing a marble in the mud.  Now pour water in the general area of where the marble is and it will feverishly wick in the tiny gap between the marble and the mud, trying to fill the void in the space.  This is more how gravity ACTUALLY works. 

And now that you can see gravity as a physical thing, the theory of realitivity is much easier to grasp.  Time operates differently the further away you get from the earth because you are slowing pulling yourself out of the spacetime void around the planet. 


And with that, my brain just overheated... nap time!

I thought it was your nap time after the first sentence. 

I have to admit I have time traveled into the past before and it is no big thing.  There are side effects to this process, like feeling tired, cranky and with a slight back ache.  These symptoms disappear after a few minutes walking.

If you were lucky enough to fly Concorde from London to New York you were in effect traveling back in time. 

Now its time for my nap. 

[Howard_Casto]

Lame jokes aside my whole paragraph apparently went completely over your head.


You traveled back through a perception of time, not through time.  Timezones and international date lines have nothing to do with actual time.  Those constructs are put in place to measure the amount of sunlight left on a perticular location in a given day, not the passage of time. 

[jennifer]

      It look"s like Im somewhere over the Florida coast.... Things don"t seem as they should...

[AtomSmasher]

Lame jokes aside my whole paragraph apparently went completely over your head.


You traveled back through a perception of time, not through time.  Timezones and international date lines have nothing to do with actual time.  Those constructs are put in place to measure the amount of sunlight left on a perticular location in a given day, not the passage of time.  

Or perhaps his comment went over your head and he was actually talking about time dilation where time slows down the faster you travel.  If you're on the jet, then time elapsed slower for you then it did for people on the ground, so you would be slightly behind them in time when you landed   Granted our best clocks could not detect the amount of time changed from that short flight, but it doesn't negate the fact that time travel did happen.

[Quite17]

Time machine?
Simply thought to make some money,
and have some good travels——place change, time change
.

[Malenko]

I time travel all the time, but its always forward at the same pace.

[Howard_Casto]

Lame jokes aside my whole paragraph apparently went completely over your head.


You traveled back through a perception of time, not through time.  Timezones and international date lines have nothing to do with actual time.  Those constructs are put in place to measure the amount of sunlight left on a perticular location in a given day, not the passage of time.  

Or perhaps his comment went over your head and he was actually talking about time dilation where time slows down the faster you travel.  If you're on the jet, then time elapsed slower for you then it did for people on the ground, so you would be slightly behind them in time when you landed   Granted our best clocks could not detect the amount of time changed from that short flight, but it doesn't negate the fact that time travel did happen.

That's still not really time travel though, that's just realitivity at work.  You aren't traveling forwards in time, rather your time is slower than the ground's time.  Forward time-traveling doesn't really count because firstly we are all doing it right now and secondly it's generally just space travel.  I mean technically I suppose it is, but that's kind of lame.

It's the backwards part that's confusing and probably impossible to do (at least on the human level).

[knave]

I was thinking last night that it would be pretty entertaining to travel back as an observer and witness key points in history to see what really happened. No need to interfere...just the knowledge would be pretty cool.  I think it would be particularly interesting to see the reality of some of the biblical events.

[fallacy]

This guy’s first theory is time travel... What a F***in idiot!











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ark_ader dad

[Ed_McCarron]

While I don't think human time travel is possible (again if it were we'd see buttloads of "time tourists")

I subscribe to the "Since time is a vector that naturally goes in one direction that's the only direction you can travel" theory.

Who says you can't jump forwards but not backwards?  Could explain your lack of "Time tourists."

[Malenko]

nevermind

[Howard_Casto]

While I don't think human time travel is possible (again if it were we'd see buttloads of "time tourists")

I subscribe to the "Since time is a vector that naturally goes in one direction that's the only direction you can travel" theory.

Who says you can't jump forwards but not backwards?  Could explain your lack of "Time tourists."

Heh, it's funny, that's kind of the reason I think that backwards time traveling might be possible.  Since time probably is a vector, it must have a start point.  While it might not be possible to travel backwards directly upon a vector, it is usually possible to get off said vector and intercet a previous point via bypass. 

You know like the old "time is a river" metaphor.  Sure the river of time might flow so shiftly and strongly that you couldn't possibly paddle up-stream, but why wouldn't you just paddle towards the bank, get off and walk upstream?

Again, that doesn't mean the HUMAN time travel is possible, just time travel in general.  Just like technically speaking, you could probably travel to another dimension by passing through a black hole, but it will never happen because you would be ripped apart at the sub-atomic level as you approach the event horizion.

[Ridgefire]

Hmmm I'd ride a dinosaur 

[Gray_Area]

  Just like technically speaking, you could probably travel to another dimension by passing through a black hole, but it will never happen because you would be ripped apart at the sub-atomic level as you approach the event horizion.

To another universe. And there are ideas about 'missing the singularity'.

[Howard_Casto]

Hmmm I'd ride a dinosaur 

Just make sure you buy it dinner first. 

HI-O!

[ark_ader]

Hmmm I'd ride a dinosaur 

Just make sure you buy it dinner first. 

HI-O!

And make sure she puts in her false teeth in too.