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Author Topic: ARCADE MONITOR to PC HELP :-)  (Read 2642 times)

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ARCADE MONITOR to PC HELP :-)
« on: September 12, 2003, 12:08:56 am »
Ok....I Bought a Cabinet that had a monitor that was not supposed to work. Monitor WORKS FINE. Power Plug in the inside of the cab was disconnected.

Here is what the monitor says:

Zenith Model - 25K7131 - Wells Gardner
120 Volt
60 HZ
100 MAX

I'm making this cab into a mame machine so my question is what do I need to get this Arcade Monitor hooked up to my PC?


do I need a ArcadeVGA Video card for 15Khz Arcade Monitors?


Thanks in advance



« Last Edit: September 12, 2003, 12:09:21 am by Bobby115 »

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Re:ARCADE MONITOR to PC HELP :-)
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2003, 10:42:03 am »

do I need a ArcadeVGA Video card for 15Khz Arcade Monitors?

Yup, that's what you need.









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Re:ARCADE MONITOR to PC HELP :-)
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2003, 11:31:25 am »
just to tack on... and agree.

The ArcadeVGA card (and cables/video amp) is the easiest physical and software configuration solution.

There are other ways that take more patience or technical skill or other ways still that more than likely lead to a lower quality picture...

*shrug* it's the most straightforward and IMHO the best way (for the dollar) to accomplish what you want.

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Re:ARCADE MONITOR to PC HELP :-)
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2003, 03:26:24 am »
That's a nice, clean monitor. I wish I could get one billed as "non-working" in that condition instead of finding a broken yoke or missing chassis. :D

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Re:ARCADE MONITOR to PC HELP :-)
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2003, 11:05:08 pm »
This monitor is part of the WG 7000 series monitor..

if you ever need help, just look for info on the WG 7000, and you'll see it's all identical (I have the same monitor, except mine is a 7191.. it's an AMAZING monitor once you get it set properly).

Once you get the software right, and ArcadeVGA (and i-PAC or j-pac!) all you'll need to do is play with the pots on the monitor to get the perfect size on screen and you're set!

Oh..

very important...

This monitor requires an external isolating transformer..

read about it here.. or else you might kill yourself!

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Re:ARCADE MONITOR to PC HELP :-)
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2003, 12:12:44 am »
How do you physically hook an arcade monitor into the arcade VGA, I have no power cords (must've got trashed?). Any special settings the pc has to be on?
Thanks
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Re:ARCADE MONITOR to PC HELP :-)
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2003, 10:26:21 am »
Derek,

the monitor takes RGB + Sync input...

Normal arcade cabs (made in the last 10-15 years) use a special harness that brings everything together into 1 spot. They is called the JAMMA harness.

This JAMMA connector (looks like a PCI slot almost) plugs into an arcade board.  (the arcade board has the slot that looks like the bottom of a sound card, or video card, etc.. while the other side of the JAMMA harness has wires going to different parts.. monitor, buttons, speakers, etc..)

So what you do in this case is purchase a J-PAC (from same maker as ArcadeVGA) where the JAMMA harness plugs in.

This in turn, there is a VGA cable that goes from the ArcadeVGA (or any Arcade capable video card) into the J-PAC, and the J-PAC routes the signal to the arcade monitor.

Simple, no?

Here's the web site(s) you need to know:

ArcadeVGA/J-PAC:
http://www.ultimarc.com/

If you don't have a JAMMA arcade machine, there are other instructions on how you can hook it up.  See here:

http://www.ultimarc.com/avgainst.html


Here's an amazing web site with lots of arcade building tips, and great prices:

http://www.therealbobroberts.com/

If you don't have a JAMMA arcade, you can always make it JAMMA by purchasing the JAMMA harness, and wiring it all to it!  (buttons, video, etc).

There are a few things you have to be aware of this monitor. It requires an isolating transformer (read at all sites above), it requires the special Video plugs (can be purchased at the bob's site), and it requires (I believe) the remote board to control settings (can also be purchased at Bob's).

I know there's lots of help here, but at the same time a lot of it assumes you do some homework on your own to get up to speed with the basics.. Bob helps a lot there.

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Re:ARCADE MONITOR to PC HELP :-)
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2003, 09:48:30 pm »
I already have an IPAC 56 input, damn now I gotta buy more stuff?
Derek

Oh wait, so I can just purchase the VGA breakout cable and just have to figure out what wires go in which slot right?
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Re:ARCADE MONITOR to PC HELP :-)
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2003, 10:19:30 pm »
I'm alittle mixed up,

Is this what I would need to control my monitor and Control panel or do I also need to get an IPAC??

ArcadeVGA/I-PAC: - http://www.ultimarc.com/


In my case do I have a Jamma? If so do I need to purchase a ARcadeVGA and J-PAC both?

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Re:ARCADE MONITOR to PC HELP :-)
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2003, 04:43:15 pm »
I-PAC, J-PAC and ArcadeVGA are 3 different products...
they're not the same thing, and they're not sold bundled together.

I-PAC is for people who are building arcade machine from scratch.

J-PAC is same thing, except for people that are converting old arcade machine.. so it easier to wire since it interfaces with the old cables in the machine that are there already.

ArcadeVGA is used to connect to your monitor.  You can connect from ArcadeVGA straight to monitor (by making your own cable) or through the J-PAC (Since old arcade machines already have cables in place).

The I-PAC has nothing to do with video and is for keyboard control only, so you need to make your own connection cable if you're build a machine from scratch, or putting in new wire.

All this info is on Andy's web site..

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Re:ARCADE MONITOR to PC HELP :-)
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2003, 05:10:21 pm »
From what I understand JAMMA iss set up for 2 players w/ 3 buttons each...
(If I'm wrong & you know better please correct me)
Supper JAMMA (or something like that) supports up to 6 buttons (Again If I'm wrong...)

I'd assume that World Soccer Finals is not JAMMA standard (being 4 players...)  & you'd be better off getting an IPAC or KEYWIZ that would fit the number of inputs you finally decide to put in your control panel.  Then you'd also need to get an interface to work with any spinners/trackballs (optiPAC or a mouse hack).

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