Massive earthquake in Japan

[Mikezilla]

The Japanese has had some experience with radiation, so I am sure they will contain this the best they can.

That may very well be the most insensitive comment that I have ever read.  Considering the likes of some posters around here, you far surpass them for being a complete and utter dolt.

Considering the US dropped not one but two atomic bombs on Japan, I would say the Japanese would have the most extensive experience to deal with radiation exposure.

Personally, I think the Dolphin and Whale Gods are upset with Japan, and struck them from the underworld.

Insensitive?  Yes.  I have my reasons.  I have given you three so far.

You can attack me for being insensitive if you must.

I hope that the Japanese will have more respect for the planet.

Talk about being repulsed by ones comments. You are complete and utter waste of life, if I wasnt scared of being blocked by Saint, I would have quite a few other choice words to say to you. You are a wretched human being.

Thanks.  You can always make suitable comments using the Private Message System.  I do not blame you for your opinions, and you should not feel afraid to express them.

Just tell me where I made innacurate comments, and I will change them.

Otherwise: Sticks and Stones Mate.


I hear that there will be a shortage of food and medical supplies. 

Please go to this site and make a donation if you can.

Whatever man, its pointless to even attempt to comment on anything you have to say. Whoever called you a troll was right.

[polaris]

It was me 

[ark_ader]

The Japanese has had some experience with radiation, so I am sure they will contain this the best they can.

That may very well be the most insensitive comment that I have ever read.  Considering the likes of some posters around here, you far surpass them for being a complete and utter dolt.

Considering the US dropped not one but two atomic bombs on Japan, I would say the Japanese would have the most extensive experience to deal with radiation exposure.

Personally, I think the Dolphin and Whale Gods are upset with Japan, and struck them from the underworld.

Insensitive?  Yes.  I have my reasons.  I have given you three so far.

You can attack me for being insensitive if you must.

I hope that the Japanese will have more respect for the planet.

Talk about being repulsed by ones comments. You are complete and utter waste of life, if I wasnt scared of being blocked by Saint, I would have quite a few other choice words to say to you. You are a wretched human being.

Thanks.  You can always make suitable comments using the Private Message System.  I do not blame you for your opinions, and you should not feel afraid to express them.

Just tell me where I made inaccurate comments, and I will change them.

Otherwise: Sticks and Stones Mate.


I hear that there will be a shortage of food and medical supplies. 

Please go to this site and make a donation if you can.

Whatever man, its pointless to even attempt to comment on anything you have to say. Whoever called you a troll was right.

Its not whatever is it?  My comments have upset you, to the point of making adverse comments towards me.  I have told any lies, nor have I added any facts that are not backed up either by history or referenced links?  No.

What I commented on was perhaps not in good taste with regards to the loss of life of recent events.  Nobody deserves to face a natural disaster, with so many innocents dead.

But it shows how powerful the planet is, and we should respect it including all its occupants.



 

[hyiu]

other than comments and prayers...

I would suggest kindly donate some $$ to help out...
for the record, I did donated to red cross...

hope the situation doesn't go any worse...
from that 2nd power plant explosion, it doesn't look good to me at all...
God bless...

[Dervacumen]

I fear for any ecological damage to the area.  Hopefully our use of nuclear fuel will decrease, after this disaster.

This is not just a Japanese disaster, is a pending global one.

No more so than global warming.  Sadly people will use this event to thwart the revival of investing in and improving implementation of nuclear energy.  If you look at current nuclear power plant technology it beats every other source of energy production in cost/benefit analysis.

That said, the scale of the current situation in Japan is very, very sad and sobering.  To me at least.

[Mikezilla]

What I commented on was perhaps not in good taste with regards to the loss of life of recent events.  Nobody deserves to face a natural disaster, with so many innocents dead.

But it shows how powerful the planet is, and we should respect it including all its occupants.

Yeah, "perhaps" youre right. Of course it wasnt in good taste, what the hell do you think pissed everyone off? And what is this "respect the planet" mumbo jumbo youre talking about? If anyone respects the planet its the Japanese. Besides, nobody could have prepared for that kind of a quake/tsunami. You make it sound as though the planet is lashing out because we polluted it or something.

[gryhnd]

Sobering: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/03/13/world/asia/satellite-photos-japan-before-and-after-tsunami.html

[Dervacumen]

When I was in the 10th grade I took a trimester class called Social Justice.  I was paired up with one of my best friends to this day, who happens to be Japanese, for our class project.  The subject we were assigned was studying and reporting on the bombing of Nagasaki.  We then had to form an opinion: was the bombing of Nagasaki justified, and if so, on what grounds?  I sent my friend an email yesterday, and thankfully most of his family lives on the Kyushu island, about as far from damage in Honshu as you can get in Japan.  He does have one uncle living closer, near Yokohama, who is getting by and was not devastated to the extent you see reported in the news.  My wife's aunt and uncle were recently in Tokyo and left three days before this disaster hit.  I'm feel like I'm one of the luckiest people on Earth.

[Howard_Casto]

I fear for any ecological damage to the area.  Hopefully our use of nuclear fuel will decrease, after this disaster.
This is not just a Japanese disaster, is a pending global one.

No more so than global warming.  Sadly people will use this event to thwart the revival of investing in and improving implementation of nuclear energy.  If you look at current nuclear power plant technology it beats every other source of energy production in cost/benefit analysis.
That said, the scale of the current situation in Japan is very, very sad and sobering.  To me at least.

While I agree with you completely, Nuclear Power is only safe if the plant is constructed in a safe location.  A nation that almost entirely rests on a fault line is NOT a good place to have a nuclear power plant.  Upon hearing of the reactor in Japan I thought "what kind of moron builds a reactor so close to a fault line" only to discover that 13 of the 140 or so plants in the US are built on frikkin fault lines!!!  Seriously, who aproves this crap?

For Japan, a realitively tiny island nation, their energy options are sadly limited, but in the US and large countries, the obvious solution would be solar power.  Putting solar panels over 3% (just 3%!!) of the Arizona desert would completely power the entire United States!

[Grasshopper]

For Japan, a realitively tiny island nation, their energy options are sadly limited,

Indeed. You have to admire the Japanese. Fate has dealt them a very bad hand. They're stuck on an overcrowded earthquake and tsunami prone little island with few natural resources. Yet despite that, they've created what is arguably the most technologically advanced nation on earth.

However, what I don't understand is why, in a country known to be susceptible to tsunamis, so many nuclear plants were constructed on the coast. From what I gather, it was the tsunami that did most of the damage, not the earthquake.

[Samstag]

However, what I don't understand is why, in a country known to be susceptible to tsunamis, so many nuclear plants were constructed on the coast. From what I gather, it was the tsunami that did most of the damage, not the earthquake.

The Daichi plant had a protected dock, so it's possible that the safest way to transport fuel in and out is by sea.  I know they bought their plutonium from Russia, and it's highly likely that spent fuel is disposed of in Russia or some other country.

As for building on fault lines, these reactors are built to withstand 8.2 earthquakes.  It's probable that Daichi experienced less than this magnitude and probably would have been okay if the tsunami hadn't destroyed all the diesel generators.

[SavannahLion]

 

I had this brilliant nice ass long post for Castro and I got an invalid session.








I'll do it later if I'm in the mood. I hate that ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.

 

[saint]

Firefox with the form-recovery add-on is your friend in these situations.

I had this brilliant nice ass long post for Castro and I got an invalid session.








I'll do it later if I'm in the mood. I hate that ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.

 

[Vigo]

As far as nuclear power goes, it is still the most practical, efficient and available source of power worldwide. From my understanding, there are better standard fail-safes in newer nuclear power plants, and if they were subjected to the same catastrophe, they would be fine. That being said, an event like this does show that we do need to improve upon our use of nuclear power, since we only have 1 nuclear plant in the US less than 20 years old.

From everything that I read, I understand that nuclear energy from thoruim is the best answer.

Throruim has no risk of a meltdown, and it is more abundant and cheaper than uranium. Reactors are cheaper to build, there is less nuclear waste, the nuclear waste cannot be weaponized, and waste stays at dangerous levels of radiation for a much, much shorter period of time.

[garnerb350]

My heart and prayers go out to all the people in Japan , but what scare me more is that this might happen in the next few years...

[Benevolance]

Like Samstag said, the reactors survived the earthquake. It's the fact the tsunami cleared a 20ft seawall and knocked out all three sets of backup protocols that has created this problem. To further add to it...almost all of Japan is built on the coast. It's an island. And given that the tsunami traveled inland 10km, one wonders how far inland you'd expect a country to build?

[ark_ader]

I'm just glad that the dolphins and whales are safe for the moment.   

[Mikezilla]

Like Samstag said, the reactors survived the earthquake. It's the fact the tsunami cleared a 20ft seawall and knocked out all three sets of backup protocols that has created this problem. To further add to it...almost all of Japan is built on the coast. It's an island. And given that the tsunami traveled inland 10km, one wonders how far inland you'd expect a country to build?

Seriously. The tsunami did the trouble. If that happened here in CA, San Onofre would be screwed because they are literally on the water, even closer than Japans power plants are.

I'm just glad that the dolphins and whales are safe for the moment.   

Youre being sarcastic right?

[Samstag]

Seriously. The tsunami did the trouble. If that happened here in CA, San Onofre would be screwed because they are literally on the water, even closer than Japans power plants are.

I think it's theoretically safer from tsunami since the fault is inland, but considering the recent tsunami wrecked a couple of California marinas it'd be a good idea to protect the generators better.

[polaris]

I'm just glad that the dolphins and whales are safe for the moment.   

Youre being sarcastic right?

he's a troll trying to get attention, ignore him

[ark_ader]

I'm just glad that the dolphins and whales are safe for the moment.   

Youre being sarcastic right?

No quite serious.   

[Mikezilla]

I'm just glad that the dolphins and whales are safe for the moment.   

Youre being sarcastic right?

he's a troll trying to get attention, ignore him

I know...I just dont get people like that. 

[RayB]

He's kind of like this chick (without the religious angle):

[SirPeale]

You know that quoting their spam just makes our job harder, right?

[HaRuMaN]

You know that quoting their spam just makes our job harder, right?

Maybe saint should pay you more, then...   

[Vigo]

You know that quoting their spam just makes our job harder, right?

Aww, I thought "International Troll Quoting Day" would make an awesome holiday, as should "Revive an Ancient Thread Week" and "+1 Everything Possible to Raise Your Post Count Month" 

[Ed_McCarron]

"+1 Everything Possible to Raise Your Post Count Month" 

When is that?

[SavannahLion]

"+1 Everything Possible to Raise Your Post Count Month" 

When is that?

May I think.

[Ed_McCarron]

"+1 Everything Possible to Raise Your Post Count Month" 

When is that?

May I think.

Sure, you may, but it takes all the fun out of posting here.

[Samstag]

"+1 Everything Possible to Raise Your Post Count Month"  

When is that?

May I think.

Sure, you may, but it takes all the fun out of posting here.

+1

Too soon?

[ChadTower]

Surely you guys aren't serious.

[CCM]

They are serious, and don't call them Shirley.

[ark_ader]

You know that quoting their spam just makes our job harder, right?

Who's spam SirPeale?  Can you shed some light on that comment?

If I have breached the rules, don't ya think Saint would have shut me down?

I'm commenting on the truth.  A truth that is supposed to be forgotten, because of a natural disaster.  

I'm a troll because of my belief and my point of view, isn't that right Polaris?

Check out this link which I posted before.

Why did we have a video of a girl about discussing Religion?  Talk about trolling.....  

[HaRuMaN]

There was an actual spammer, and I quoted the spam... that's what Peale was talking about. 

Don't get your panties in a bunch, nancy...   

[saint]

You know that quoting their spam just makes our job harder, right?

Who's spam SirPeale?  Can you shed some light on that comment?

If I have breached the rules, don't ya think Saint would have shut me down?

I'm commenting on the truth.  A truth that is supposed to be forgotten, because of a natural disaster.  

I'm a troll because of my belief and my point of view, isn't that right Polaris?

Check out this link which I posted before.

Why did we have a video of a girl about discussing Religion?  Talk about trolling.....  

Nothing to do with you ....

[jamesjones626]

You know that quoting their spam just makes our job harder, right?

Who's spam SirPeale?  Can you shed some light on that comment?

If I have breached the rules, don't ya think Saint would have shut me down?

I'm commenting on the truth.  A truth that is supposed to be forgotten, because of a natural disaster.  

I'm a troll because of my belief and my point of view, isn't that right Polaris?

Check out this link which I posted before.

Why did we have a video of a girl about discussing Religion?  Talk about trolling.....  

Nothing to do with you ....

its all good if someone is concered about the fishy fish in the sea, but i think that the people in japan are way more important than sea critters.  One big big problem we had here in california is that the governator decided to shut off water to farmers to save some little smelt.  Well me being from the central valley most of the jobs here are farm related, so if there is no water, you cant grow food, meaning people cant work.  This shot the unemployment rate to some cities to over 50%.  People lose jobs and there houses, but hey atleast that fishy fish is safe right?  O another thing that fish is even edible to us, good lookin out arnold, im glad you got the fudge out.

[Howard_Casto]

To be Frank... you are wrong. 

Fish are just as important as people.  The delicate eco-system that is CRUCIAL to our species survival is more important than jobs.  As a race of hyper-intelligent apes, we are smart enough to be able to find/create more jobs but once a species is destroyed, a species that could unknowningly lead to anything from the curing cancer to being the key link to all the aquatic life off of the coast of CA, we can't get it back. 

Now don't mis-qute me, I'm not saying that we CARE about fish more than our poor Japanese brothers, but we are all just a species of ape if you look at it objectively, so caring more and them being more important are two different things. 

The fossil record clearly shows that no species in the history of earth has been more dominant and has more of an ecological impact than humans.  We are quite literally capable of destorying the planet via pollution and over-exploitation of resources.  If we were a dumb, beastial species our actions would be excusable, but the fact that we are blessed with intelligence means that we must be mindful of the impact of our actions.

And this is coming from a poor country boy from WV living between a mile of two coal mines.  So yes, the loss of Jobs vs the protection of the environment DIRECTLY effects myself and my family. Never the less I'm still not so stupid as to say jobs are more important than protecting our enivronment.

   That being said, I'm glad the marine life is safe as well.  (I would be MORE glad if the Japanese were in better shape.) It probably wasn't the most appropriate time to say it though.

Then again it's no more appropraite to jump on someone just because they are glad the wildlife was spared as that is a VERY GOOD THING.

[Mikezilla]

To be Frank... you are wrong. 

Fish are just as important as people.  The delicate eco-system that is CRUCIAL to our species survival is more important than jobs.  As a race of hyper-intelligent apes, we are smart enough to be able to find/create more jobs but once a species is destroyed, a species that could unknowningly lead to anything from the curing cancer to being the key link to all the aquatic life off of the coast of CA, we can't get it back. 

Now don't mis-qute me, I'm not saying that we CARE about fish more than our poor Japanese brothers, but we are all just a species of ape if you look at it objectively, so caring more and them being more important are two different things. 

The fossil record clearly shows that no species in the history of earth has been more dominant and has more of an ecological impact than humans.  We are quite literally capable of destorying the planet via pollution and over-exploitation of resources.  If we were a dumb, beastial species our actions would be excusable, but the fact that we are blessed with intelligence means that we must be mindful of the impact of our actions.

And this is coming from a poor country boy from WV living between a mile of two coal mines.  So yes, the loss of Jobs vs the protection of the environment DIRECTLY effects myself and my family. Never the less I'm still not so stupid as to say jobs are more important than protecting our enivronment.

   That being said, I'm glad the marine life is safe as well.  (I would be MORE glad if the Japanese were in better shape.) It probably wasn't the most appropriate time to say it though.

Then again it's no more appropraite to jump on someone just because they are glad the wildlife was spared as that is a VERY GOOD THING.

Well, with my original post, I thought ark_ader was being sarcastic because Japan's whale fleets pretty much cleared out the whales surrounding japan, and they also over-fished the out lying ocean areas as well. It was kind of a "what really is going to be damaged that isnt already gone" kind of comment. Its not like the gulf's oil spill. That decimated everything, especially the shrimping industry in the area, among a ton of other things. That was way worse than the radiation contamination in Japan. Now if the reactors blow, thats a totally different story, but that hasnt happened yet. And to be honest, I just plain ol dont like ark_ader. 

[ChadTower]

Well, with my original post, I thought ark_ader was being sarcastic because Japan's whale fleets pretty much cleared out the whales surrounding japan, and they also over-fished the out lying ocean areas as well.

They are also routinely spotted just outside the national waters of countries all over the world.  I know people see them all the time off the coast of Maritime Canada whaling like it's no tomorrow.

[Fordman]

I'm just glad that the dolphins and whales are safe for the moment.   

I usually dont comment on stuff like this, but your putting dolphins and whales before humans? As a human, we are at the top of the food chain. Sometimes you hear about some billy-bobs that find out that they are too dumb to not be eaten by an animal, for which in glad the animals are thinning the heard of dumb humans (whole 'nother debate).

Im not big on hunting just to hunt and mount on the wall. If the animals are being used for food and other things, Im ok with it. My Grandpa had a good saying "eat it before it eats you". He was speaking about eating animals for survival. Im not up to date about dolphin and what hunting in Japan, but their country says it legal in their waters, then the law is the law. If its illegal in international waters, then the hunters will be caught sooner or later.

One other thing, if this earthquake would have happened on Dec 8, 1941, would those in the U.S.A. care?

Fordman