Best Picture goes to...

[RTSDaddy2]

The King's Speech - don't care what the academy says, I've seen three of them: True Grit, Black Swan, and King's....and the King rules them all.

[Donkbaca]

hated winters bone. sooo boring

[SNAAKE]

 

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[Mikezilla]

Winters bone was a damn snorefest. Didnt see black swan or Kings speech, not into stuttering brits, or ballet dancers, but whatever. I did enjoy True Grit. Hell, I thought Toy Story 3 should have won. That pulled on the ol heartstrings.

[CCM]

Winters bone was a damn snorefest. Didnt see black swan or Kings speech, not into stuttering brits, or ballet dancers, but whatever. I did enjoy True Grit. Hell, I thought Toy Story 3 should have won. That pulled on the ol heartstrings.

I don't think a cartoon should ever win best picture.

[Mikezilla]

Winters bone was a damn snorefest. Didnt see black swan or Kings speech, not into stuttering brits, or ballet dancers, but whatever. I did enjoy True Grit. Hell, I thought Toy Story 3 should have won. That pulled on the ol heartstrings.

I don't think a cartoon should ever win best picture.

Why not? It evokes different emotions on the same level.

[shmokes]

I agree that a cartoon shouldn't be able to win, but only because they have the asinine Animation category.  The idea that a cartoon can't compete with a live action film for best picture is utter craziness.  With that said, Toy Story doesn't come close to deserving the award this year.  Hell, it didn't even deserve Best Animation; that accolade should have gone to How to Train Your Dragon.

The only one of the Best Picture nominees I haven't seen yet is Black Swan.  I thought King's Speech was very good, and I don't particularly care how authentic it was.  Winter's Bone was 100% fiction, so . . . whatever.  But I don't think I'd have given King's Speech best picture.  I thought Winter's Bone and 127 Hours were both better.  Oh, and Inception.  Maybe not.  I think The Fighter and King's Speech are in a pretty dead heat for Best Picture with Facebook a bit below that.  Though, I think David Fincher maybe deserved Best Director for Facebook.  At least I'd give him Best Director before I gave Facebook Best Picture.

[ark_ader]

I agree that a cartoon shouldn't be able to win, but only because they have the asinine Animation category.  The idea that a cartoon can't compete with a live action film for best picture is utter craziness.  With that said, Toy Story doesn't come close to deserving the award this year.  Hell, it didn't even deserve Best Animation; that accolade should have gone to How to Train Your Dragon.

The only one of the Best Picture nominees I haven't seen yet is Black Swan.  I thought King's Speech was very good, and I don't particularly care how authentic it was.  Winter's Bone was 100% fiction, so . . . whatever.  But I don't think I'd have given King's Speech best picture.  I thought Winter's Bone and 127 Hours were both better.  Oh, and Inception.  Maybe not.  I think The Fighter and King's Speech are in a pretty dead heat for Best Picture with Facebook a bit below that.  Though, I think David Fincher maybe deserved Best Director for Facebook.  At least I'd give him Best Director before I gave Facebook Best Picture.

The King's Speech was boring, and actually I fell asleep and missed most of it.  I didn't think the acting was worthy of an Oscar, but with the tripe that is put out in the cinema today like Toy Story 3, anything is better than nothing.  We do get some notable exceptions like True Grit and Black Swan, that has some decent acting, but with cinema pricing the way it is (especially 3D), I'm happy to wait for DVD.  It doesn't take long. 

I noticed that Tron didn't get a mention. 

[Mikezilla]

I agree that a cartoon shouldn't be able to win, but only because they have the asinine Animation category.  The idea that a cartoon can't compete with a live action film for best picture is utter craziness.  With that said, Toy Story doesn't come close to deserving the award this year.  Hell, it didn't even deserve Best Animation; that accolade should have gone to How to Train Your Dragon.

The only one of the Best Picture nominees I haven't seen yet is Black Swan.  I thought King's Speech was very good, and I don't particularly care how authentic it was.  Winter's Bone was 100% fiction, so . . . whatever.  But I don't think I'd have given King's Speech best picture.  I thought Winter's Bone and 127 Hours were both better.  Oh, and Inception.  Maybe not.  I think The Fighter and King's Speech are in a pretty dead heat for Best Picture with Facebook a bit below that.  Though, I think David Fincher maybe deserved Best Director for Facebook.  At least I'd give him Best Director before I gave Facebook Best Picture.

The King's Speech was boring, and actually I fell asleep and missed most of it.  I didn't think the acting was worthy of an Oscar, but with the tripe that is put out in the cinema today like Toy Story 3, anything is better than nothing.  We do get some notable exceptions like True Grit and Black Swan, that has some decent acting, but with cinema pricing the way it is (especially 3D), I'm happy to wait for DVD.  It doesn't take long. 

I noticed that Tron didn't get a mention. 

How can you say Toy Story 3 is "tripe". Thats a ridiculous statement. Did you not see any of the other ones and are judging it based on the film itself? Then of course its not going to have the same effect, but obviously it isnt tripe considered it IS a cartoon and it WAS nominated for best picture. I never saw How to Train your Dragon, so I cant judge on that, but still, saying it is tripe is utter non-sense. In all actuality, I enjoyed True Grit, but I sure as hell dont think it was an oscar worthy nomination for best picture. If you ask me, it was a pretty slow year for movies.

[ark_ader]

Then of course its not going to have the same effect, but obviously it isnt tripe considered it IS a cartoon and it WAS nominated for best picture.

Computer Animation

Cartoon

[Mikezilla]

Usually Disney just yanks a movie off the market for a few years, and then releases again to appeal to new audiences.

Pixar just keeps remaking the same movie and calling it Toy Story 1, 2, & 3.

Will say that Toy Story 3 had a rather unexpected nihilistic sequence towards the end where they all confront their mortality together.  I'm sure the deeper meaning was lost on kids, but at least Disney continues their tradition of slipping adult themes into the movies.  This time it wasn't a bumblebee telling teenagers to take off their clothes, though.

No no, that was Aladdin himself, not the bee. 

[Howard_Casto]

Then of course its not going to have the same effect, but obviously it isnt tripe considered it IS a cartoon and it WAS nominated for best picture.

Computer Animation

Cartoon

Agreed. 

There are something like 8 or 9 distinctions in terms of traditional animation, cgi assisted animation, anime, stylized 3d and photorealistic 3d.  By calling toy story a "cartoon" you would have to lump Avatar in the cartoon slot as well.

[Mikezilla]

Its splitting hairs here. Computer animation, cartoon, animated feature, etc. Boil it down to "Best picture". Its a full length motion picture. I dont see why it couldnt be nominated, or win, for best picture. Apparently the Academy thought the same thing when they nominated it.

I disagree with the Avatar comment. Thats CG mixed with live action. Would you call "Who framed Roger Rabbit" a cartoon? Like the wikipedia article said, cartoons started out as drawings. I used the term cartoon loosly, because I identify with the term rather than "computer animated film".

[shmokes]

Then of course its not going to have the same effect, but obviously it isnt tripe considered it IS a cartoon and it WAS nominated for best picture.

Computer Animation

Cartoon

Agreed.  

There are something like 8 or 9 distinctions in terms of traditional animation, cgi assisted animation, anime, stylized 3d and photorealistic 3d.  By calling toy story a "cartoon" you would have to lump Avatar in the cartoon slot as well.

Meh . . . I'm with Mikezilla here.  Y'all are talking about a distinction without a difference.  It's a pointless semantics discussion.  We all know what we're talking about when we say cartoon.  Nobody questions whether to lump Pixar films in with other animations or with live action or something.  But suffice it to say that if it is eligible to win the Best Animation trophy (obviously Avatar cannot) it is, for all intents and purposes, a cartoon.

By the way, Beauty and the Beast, a hand-drawn animation, was also nominated for Best Picture.

[shmokes]

How can you say Toy Story 3 is "tripe".

I agree with you that it's not tripe.  But it's not that good.  The only truly imaginative part of the whole film was when Mr. Potato Head used a tortilla to support his limbs and facial parts during the breakout sequence.  The rest of the movie was just really competent, paint-by-numbers stuff.  Most of the elements from the third film were already explored in the previous two, and it's just hard to make lightning strike the same place twice, let alone three times.  It was a good film, but it lacked the magic of the first two.

Also, see How to Train Your Dragon.  It was robbed.

[Mikezilla]

Then of course its not going to have the same effect, but obviously it isnt tripe considered it IS a cartoon and it WAS nominated for best picture.

Computer Animation

Cartoon

Agreed.  

There are something like 8 or 9 distinctions in terms of traditional animation, cgi assisted animation, anime, stylized 3d and photorealistic 3d.  By calling toy story a "cartoon" you would have to lump Avatar in the cartoon slot as well.

Meh . . . I'm with Mikezilla here.  Y'all are talking about a distinction without a difference.  It's a pointless semantics discussion.  We all know what we're talking about when we say cartoon.  Nobody questions whether to lump Pixar films in with other animations or with live action or something.  But suffice it to say that if it is eligible to win the Best Animation trophy (obviously Avatar cannot) it is, for all intents and purposes, a cartoon.

By the way, Beauty and the Beast, a hand-drawn animation, was also nominated for Best Picture.

Thank you Shmokes.  Besides, these are nominations we are talking about. No "cartoon" has ever won the coveted best picture award anyway.

[Mikezilla]

How can you say Toy Story 3 is "tripe".

I agree with you that it's not tripe.  But it's not that good.  The only truly imaginative part of the whole film was when Mr. Potato Head used a tortilla to support his limbs and facial parts during the breakout sequence.  The rest of the movie was just really competent, paint-by-numbers stuff.  Most of the elements from the third film were already explored in the previous two, and it's just hard to make lightning strike the same place twice, let alone three times.  It was a good film, but it lacked the magic of the first two.

Also, see How to Train Your Dragon.  It was robbed.

I supposed Im bias because I loved the other ones, and they were great sequels, but they truly gave the story closure, and I thought it was really sad. I wasnt looking at it as a film on its own, but the conclusion of a story about characters that are loveable even though they are only computer generated graphics with human voices. See, and hear I thought the tortilla part was kinda lame but whatever. I really liked how they did the ending, and thats how life is regarding saying goodbye, and things changing etc. Seems like a movie everyone can relate to.

Is it on DVD yet? Ill rent it if it is.

[shmokes]

Yep, released for DVD a couple months ago.

[danny_galaga]

Shoulda been Winter's Bone, IMO.


Go watch some actual footage of that king's speech before you believe any BS movies about his debilitating stutter.

Well, that speech IS after he's had therapy. It wouldn't be very impressive if he hadn't been 'cured' at all...

[SNAAKE]

Didnt see black swan not into ballet dancers, but whatever.

maybe there is more to it than just "ballet dancing" might wanna stop judging books by covers. DA is our generation's stanley kubrick. if it was by a random no name director I might have skipped blackswan even with all the positive reviews.


watched everything listed above and Id say Inception was the best last year. personal opinion of course.

also train your dragon was muuuuuch better than toystory3 simply because Ive seen 2 of those before. even if it was a fresh new movie, Id still take TYD over TS any day.

[Mikezilla]

Didnt see black swan not into ballet dancers, but whatever.

maybe there is more to it than just "ballet dancing" might wanna stop judging books by covers. DA is our generation's stanley kubrick. if it was by a random no name director I might have skipped blackswan even with all the positive reviews.


watched everything listed above and Id say Inception was the best last year. personal opinion of course.

also train your dragon was muuuuuch better than toystory3 simply because Ive seen 2 of those before. even if it was a fresh new movie, Id still take TYD over TS any day.

Yeah, I usually dont "judge a book by its cover" but this one seemed kinda "meh" to me. Sometimes you gotta judge a little bit. I agree with you on DA being our SK, but this kinda looked like his Eyes Wide Shut to me. He was attached to the new Robocop remake but he is doing a sequel to Wolverine now.

I still havent seen How to Train your Dragon, but Im looking at Toy Story 3 differently than all of you I guess. Im not looking at it as a stand alone film, Im looking at it as the conclusion to the whole, well, Toy Story   

[shmokes]

Yeah, I usually dont "judge a book by its cover" but this one seemed kinda "meh" to me. Sometimes you gotta judge a little bit. I agree with you on DA being our SK, but this kinda looked like his Eyes Wide Shut to me.

Why would this seem like his Eyes Wide Shut?  Eyes Wide Shut wasn't about ballet, wasn't nominated for Best Picture, wasn't met with near universal critical acclaim.  It seems to me that you have no objective reason to assume that this movie would somehow be worse than a typical Aronofsky film.

[Mikezilla]

Yeah, I usually dont "judge a book by its cover" but this one seemed kinda "meh" to me. Sometimes you gotta judge a little bit. I agree with you on DA being our SK, but this kinda looked like his Eyes Wide Shut to me.

Why would this seem like his Eyes Wide Shut?  Eyes Wide Shut wasn't about ballet, wasn't nominated for Best Picture, wasn't met with near universal critical acclaim.  It seems to me that you have no objective reason to assume that this movie would somehow be worse than a typical Aronofsky film.

I meant the subject matter. Snaaake mentioned that he was our generations Kubrick. I didnt mean it literally. Eyes wide shut was weird, and this one is supposed to be weird too. Keep in mind I still havent even seen it. Im just saying based on what its about. Doesnt she masturbate in front of her parents or something?

[shmokes]

I haven't seen it, so I can't answer specifics.  But I suppose there's a good chance it is weird.  Have you seen Pi or Requiem For a Dream?  Nevertheless, it seems that there's really not much reason to worry that it won't be good, or that its weirdness makes it inaccessible to the average Aronofsky fan. 

[Vigo]

Maybe I'm the only one, but I really don't give a crap about the academy awards. To me, there isn't much more pretentious than handing yourself awards. I haven't seen the King's Speech, but I can say right now that Toy Story 3 will probably be a more memorable movie to me. But the academy reaches to grab the whatever fits the bill best to them as "monumental and dramatic" I learned that lesson way back when Forrest Gump got best picture of the year.

Personally, I found Kick-Ass to be the most entertaining film of 2010. Sorry, nothing even close to dramatic or groomed for winning awards about my choice here.

[SNAAKE]

naw blackswan is noting like eyes wide shut. BS is a mix of requiem for a dream and american psycho. thats how Id describe it without spoiling anything


EWS was...dumb and a mess that went nowhere. even kubrick admitted it was his worst(red about it online). and its hard to take tom cruise seriously


also speaking of movies, you guys should check out "enter the void". that was.....something

[Mikezilla]

I haven't seen it, so I can't answer specifics.  But I suppose there's a good chance it is weird.  Have you seen Pi or Requiem For a Dream?  Nevertheless, it seems that there's really not much reason to worry that it won't be good, or that its weirdness makes it inaccessible to the average Aronofsky fan. 

Yeah of course. Requiem for a dream was my favorite DA movie. Ever see the Fountain? Yeah, but it could be good because its weird for weirdness sake. Like "hey I dont get this movie, maybe that makes it good". Kinda like Mulholland Drive. Remember that one? I saw that and had no idea what the ---fudgesicle--- happened after it was over. But hey its "critically acclaimed". 

Maybe I'm the only one, but I really don't give a crap about the academy awards. To me, there isn't much more pretentious than handing yourself awards. I haven't seen the King's Speech, but I can say right now that Toy Story 3 will probably be a more memorable movie to me. But the academy reaches to grab the whatever fits the bill best to them as "monumental and dramatic" I learned that lesson way back when Forrest Gump got best picture of the year.

Personally, I found Kick-Ass to be the most entertaining film of 2010. Sorry, nothing even close to dramatic or groomed for winning awards about my choice here.

Thats my boy Vigo right there. Im with everything you said.  I loved Kick Ass, but I hated the ending with the jet pack, that was the only part that I thought was retarded.

[shmokes]

Mulholland Drive was a piece of crap.  Never saw The Fountain.

[CCM]

I haven't seen BS or TF, but I liked DA's work on RFAD and TW, and I'm excited to see what he does with TW and MM.   TS3 doesn't interest me at all, haven't TKS yet, FWIW my vote for best picture would have been I.  I've liked everything CN has done, M is still one of my all time favorites.  I just got WB from netflix but haven't had a chance to watch it yet.  I thought KA was great, and as others have mentioned EWS was just weird.  I'm not usually a big cartoon movie guy, but I do want to see HTTYD, and I did like U and B.

[shmokes]

   

[Grasshopper]

So far I've seen True Grit, Black Swan, and The King's Speech. They were all good films, but if I'm honest, none of them was truly outstanding. I'm not convinced that any of them deserved an Oscar. However, the King's speech was the best of the three.

With regards to Darren Aronofsky, based on the two films that I've seen so far (Black Swan and The Fountain) I'd say he's got a long way to go before he can be compared to Stanley Kubrick. At the moment he's not even in the same league.

Black Swan was good but I found The Fountain unbearably pretentious. And I say that as the type of person who normally likes pretentious films. But even I have my limits.

[saint]

I agree that a cartoon shouldn't be able to win, but only because they have the asinine Animation category.  The idea that a cartoon can't compete with a live action film for best picture is utter craziness.  With that said, Toy Story doesn't come close to deserving the award this year.  Hell, it didn't even deserve Best Animation; that accolade should have gone to How to Train Your Dragon.

+1! They did an awesome job bringing the dragons to life.

[DillonFoulds]

I haven't seen BS or TF, but I liked DA's work on RFAD and TW, and I'm excited to see what he does with TW and MM.   TS3 doesn't interest me at all, haven't TKS yet, FWIW my vote for best picture would have been I.  I've liked everything CN has done, M is still one of my all time favorites.  I just got WB from netflix but haven't had a chance to watch it yet.  I thought KA was great, and as others have mentioned EWS was just weird.  I'm not usually a big cartoon movie guy, but I do want to see HTTYD, and I did like U and B.

IDK WTF you're saying, but IMHO it was the opposite of TMI.

[Ginsu Victim]

Tired of people telling me how much I need to see How to Train Your Dragon.....so I added it to my disc queue, top spot.

I've been meaning to watch it, and I keep hearing about how much I'm missing out.

I'm looking forward to it.

[ChadTower]

How easy is to rub one out to Black Swan?  Eyes Wide Shut was kind of a disturbing challenge.

There was maybe 30 total seconds of footage across two different scenes that would be at all useful.  Even then it's a real stretch.

You really have to be into ballet to like this movie.  Or at least a chick.  If not for the Natalie Portman song with Lonely Island I wouldn't have had any fun at all at that movie.