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3 Tb Hard Drives
« on: October 19, 2010, 06:47:16 pm »
They are here.   3 Tb hard drives.  Maybe we can get all of our games in the cab now.

Comes with interface card needed to get up to 3 Tb.

3 Tb and 2.5Tb hard drives

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Re: 3 Tb Hard Drives
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2010, 01:17:11 pm »
Since drives now consist of more than one disc (platter), why not treat them as separate drives?
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Re: 3 Tb Hard Drives
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2010, 03:29:03 am »
Since drives now consist of more than one disc (platter), why not treat them as separate drives?

Reliability. Redundancy. Read/Write Speed. etc.

From a consumer standpoint, I have little interest in buying a single HDD that's seen by the PC as 4 smaller HDD's. If a consumer wants a smaller HDD, they would just buy the smaller HDD or partition the larger one. No need to add complexity to already complex configurations.

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Re: 3 Tb Hard Drives
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2010, 12:19:32 am »
U have 3Tb of games!? lol  I guess you have console games in addition to mame?

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Re: 3 Tb Hard Drives
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2010, 06:02:54 am »
Now I just have to wait for them to come down in price ... I found some for sale on bensbargains.net  the deal is expired, but it's still cheaper than the green version

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Re: 3 Tb Hard Drives
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2010, 03:22:37 pm »
Since drives now consist of more than one disc (platter), why not treat them as separate drives?

Reliability. Redundancy. Read/Write Speed. etc.

From a consumer standpoint, I have little interest in buying a single HDD that's seen by the PC as 4 smaller HDD's. If a consumer wants a smaller HDD, they would just buy the smaller HDD or partition the larger one. No need to add complexity to already complex configurations.

It seems to me that what they're essentially doing is putting more drives into one box, under one controller; and that such large capacity require controller solutions. Hence my question.
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Re: 3 Tb Hard Drives
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2010, 05:53:53 pm »
Since drives now consist of more than one disc (platter), why not treat them as separate drives?

Reliability. Redundancy. Read/Write Speed. etc.

From a consumer standpoint, I have little interest in buying a single HDD that's seen by the PC as 4 smaller HDD's. If a consumer wants a smaller HDD, they would just buy the smaller HDD or partition the larger one. No need to add complexity to already complex configurations.

It seems to me that what they're essentially doing is putting more drives into one box, under one controller; and that such large capacity require controller solutions. Hence my question.

he answered how I would, perhaps you could rephrase the question?
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Re: 3 Tb Hard Drives
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2010, 02:34:31 am »
Since drives now consist of more than one disc (platter), why not treat them as separate drives?

Reliability. Redundancy. Read/Write Speed. etc.

From a consumer standpoint, I have little interest in buying a single HDD that's seen by the PC as 4 smaller HDD's. If a consumer wants a smaller HDD, they would just buy the smaller HDD or partition the larger one. No need to add complexity to already complex configurations.

It seems to me that what they're essentially doing is putting more drives into one box, under one controller; and that such large capacity require controller solutions. Hence my question.

he answered how I would, perhaps you could rephrase the question?

Hmm... Yeah, he'll need to rephrase the question.

As near as I can tell, the poster seems to be confusing or mashing the different aspects of a HDD.

The controller card mentioned is offered because a majority of the hardware & OS out there is still limited to ~2TB HDD. Until something like the GPT becomes standard hardware fare and everyone installs 64bit OSes, we'll see a lot of this. This exact sort of thing occurred when drives broke the ~137GB barrier. You either had to partition the drive to less than that or install some stupid crazy driver to get that support until more people moved up to the 32bit OSes.

There are actually a multitude of potential controllers between where the data is stored on the platter all the way to the CPU itself. Besides the card (which not everyone will require anyways), you *must* have a controller on the HDD. HDD's are wicked complex internally. Despite the fun we all had in the 90's ---smurfing--- up our computers with badly coded John Conway's Life simulators, it's probably better to leave the heavy lifting of managing the platters to the HDD controller itself. In other words, even if the HDD just had one platter, it'll still need a controller for management.

Platter != Drive. Stop thinking like that. A platter is just one component of a much larger whole. If we stayed with that logic, we'd be going gaga over 750GB drives. We did that four years ago.  :cheers:

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Re: 3 Tb Hard Drives
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2010, 03:59:10 am »

The controller card mentioned is offered because a majority of the hardware & OS out there is still limited to ~2TB HDD.
Uhhh.....not Macs.....8EB is the max since OS X 10.4. One exabyte is roughly equivalent to one million terabytes. Sounds to me like that should suffice for a couple of years to come, but 20 years ago I thought I would never get 15 Mb filled...


Harddisks have consisted of more platters since the very beginning of hard-discs by the way....not all of them, but lots of them.

This is the coolest harddisk I've seen so far by the way :)




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Re: 3 Tb Hard Drives
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2010, 11:40:34 pm »

The controller card mentioned is offered because a majority of the hardware & OS out there is still limited to ~2TB HDD.
Uhhh.....not Macs.....8EB is the max since OS X 10.4.

I said majority. I didn't say all. Macs haven't been a majority since what... the late 80's?

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Re: 3 Tb Hard Drives
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2010, 03:09:33 pm »
I still think it's a _major_ OS.... :D

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Re: 3 Tb Hard Drives
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2010, 09:33:05 am »

The controller card mentioned is offered because a majority of the hardware & OS out there is still limited to ~2TB HDD.
Uhhh.....not Macs.....8EB is the max since OS X 10.4. One exabyte is roughly equivalent to one million terabytes. Sounds to me like that should suffice for a couple of years to come, but 20 years ago I thought I would never get 15 Mb filled...


Harddisks have consisted of more platters since the very beginning of hard-discs by the way....not all of them, but lots of them.

This is the coolest harddisk I've seen so far by the way :)




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Re: 3 Tb Hard Drives
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2010, 06:29:42 pm »
Looks like ASUS has a work around for their motherboards.

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Re: 3 Tb Hard Drives
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2011, 02:38:10 pm »
Please don't take this as a personal attack or anything against you BobA but...


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One of the most underreported stories of the year—heck, of the past decade—is the looming storage crisis. For as long as hardware manufacturers have been making hard drives, there's been nothing to stop them from increasing areal densities and discovering other techniques to make them bigger and bigger year after year. But 2010 marks the point where all that has changed: The introduction of 2.5- and 3-terabyte (TB) hard drives means the traditional rules no longer apply because the traditional computers can no longer read all the drives.

Are these people ---smurfing--- stupid? Am I the only one that recalls the other times we've encountered HDD size limitations?.

I clearly remember one company including floppies with a custom driver to handle one barrier and another included a pop-in card to support another size limitation that arose later. It's under-reported because we've handled this kind of thing already.  ::)

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Re: 3 Tb Hard Drives
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2011, 04:35:23 pm »
Please don't take this as a personal attack or anything against you BobA but...


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One of the most underreported stories of the year—heck, of the past decade—is the looming storage crisis. For as long as hardware manufacturers have been making hard drives, there's been nothing to stop them from increasing areal densities and discovering other techniques to make them bigger and bigger year after year. But 2010 marks the point where all that has changed: The introduction of 2.5- and 3-terabyte (TB) hard drives means the traditional rules no longer apply because the traditional computers can no longer read all the drives.

Are these people ---smurfing--- stupid? Am I the only one that recalls the other times we've encountered HDD size limitations?.

I clearly remember one company including floppies with a custom driver to handle one barrier and another included a pop-in card to support another size limitation that arose later. It's under-reported because we've handled this kind of thing already.  ::)

I remember having to partition my 40MB drive into a 32MB and an 8MB partition on my 640KB DOS development IBM PC.
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