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Not quite ready, but I'm that much closer...
« on: August 10, 2003, 01:49:22 am »
Just got home from the Winston-Salem auction. I've pretty much decided I'd rather have multiple cabinets versus one big one, so I bought picked up three cabinets today to bring my MAME cabinets up to 4.

First one was a $40 Atari Space Duel that's been converted to Aliens. This one will end up being my vector cab and it'll use a 21" PC monitor till I find a proper vector monitor for it.

The next one I bought was ??? converted to Apache 3. The cabinet is solid and the monitor looks quite new. Biggest reason I bought it is the control, it has an analog x-y yoke that looks almost exactly like the Star Wars yoke. Grips and internals are the same, the box that covers the center pivot is a little different. $40 for this one, it'll end up as my raster horizontal cab.

Third cab is a dedicated Aqua Jack cab, no monitor but it's got a 3 button Tron/Gorf style 8 way stick. $10 for the cab, no plans for it yet as I bought it mostly for the joystick. Eventually it might end up as a vertical vector cab.

Beyond these I've already acquired a JAMMA Dynamo cab, it'll end up being my vertical raster cabinet.

Pics will follow...

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Re:Not quite ready, but I'm that much closer...
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2003, 02:47:54 am »
Good deals.. SuperAuctions?  US Amusements?
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Re:Not quite ready, but I'm that much closer...
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2003, 09:04:58 am »
Those are some nice prices.  So when you find a working vector monitor (good luck), are you going to get the ZVG?  I've been following that ever since they announced it's potential long long ago - and the screen shots look pretty nice.   Yours isn't the Space Duel cabinet they are talking about on their site, is it?
www.zektor.com

Good luck and post conversion pics, plz :)

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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2003, 05:20:19 pm »
Preliminary updates:

Surprisingly both Apache 3 and Aliens powered up and played fine when I plugged them in. :) Part of the reason I got good deals on them were the cords were locked inside the cabinets and neither could be powered up at auction time. The monitor in Aliens needs a cap kit, and it has a fair amount of screen burn but the monitor in Apache3 is in great shape. The Apache X-Y yoke needs new bushings,  but otherwise it works fine.

Yep, the Aliens cabinet is a Atari vector Space Duel cab like mentioned on the Zektor site. I recognized the shape immediately, as it's the same cab used for Gravitar.  When I find a proper vector monitor it's be installed along with the Zektor interface board.

The original Space Duel side art looks to be in excellent shape, hopefully the stick-on Aliens side art has protected the upper half of the original art. Time will tell. From the back side it looks like whoever did the conversion didn't butcher the control panel too badly.  Another plus (IMO) is the cab was converted using Wico leaf 8-ways and leaf buttons, plus they left the Atari lighted 1 and 2 player buttons and cone bezels intact. Only bad thing I've found so far on this cab is the tinted monitor overlay glass has a nasty scratch and needs replacing.

It turns out the Aqua Jack stick is analog, so it won't work as a Tron stick. Not sure at this point whether I'll save it intact for games that use an analog stick, or swap a different grip onto the analog base and hack a digital stick to use with this grip. Either way, for $10 I'm still happy I bought it.

Here's few pics, guess I need to come up with a proper website to host from. ;)


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Re:Not quite ready, but I'm that much closer...
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2003, 05:20:55 pm »
Apache 3 cab...

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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2003, 05:21:39 pm »
Apache 3 yoke...

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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2003, 05:22:42 pm »
Space Duel/ Aliens cab...

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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2003, 05:23:42 pm »
Space Duel side art, hope it's all this clean.

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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2003, 05:25:08 pm »
Aqua Jack stick...

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Re:Not quite ready, but I'm that much closer...
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2003, 12:05:07 pm »
sniff... That's beautifull...
3 cabs for $90... (At least 2 working & 1 good monitor)...

I can only hope I'm that lucky this weekend. (Mesquite SuperAuctions)... ;D
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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2003, 09:32:52 pm »
Hmm. If I were you I would start on on the Aqua Jack first. Since the other two of them are working games. Enjoy them working until you get your other projects going. Working on more than one project at a time is a mistake I ALWAYS make. Like right now, the sticks are out of my Time Pilot, my swappable panel cabinet is in pieces in my shed, and my Amazing Maze is awaiting its new hard drive, which is sitting on my table. At least my Artic Mini is up and running.
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Re:Not quite ready, but I'm that much closer...
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2003, 09:48:08 pm »
sniff... That's beautifull...
3 cabs for $90... (At least 2 working & 1 good monitor)...

I can only hope I'm that lucky this weekend. (Mesquite SuperAuctions)... ;D

I can see this being a problem...  :-\


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Re:Not quite ready, but I'm that much closer...
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2003, 10:50:49 pm »
Yeah... I know...
There's gonna be a handful of us there this weekend all trying to get the best deals possible.  I don't really expect to come out with multiple cabinets, but I'd love to at least get my hands on a decent mid 80's 19" cabinet (Maybe centipede or defender).
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2003, 11:26:43 pm »
Yeah... I know...
There's gonna be a handful of us there this weekend all trying to get the best deals possible.  I don't really expect to come out with multiple cabinets, but I'd love to at least get my hands on a decent mid 80's 19" cabinet (Maybe centipede or defender).

Mid 80s cabinets are actually almost non-existant. Most mid 80s games were conversion only. Very few cabinets were produced again until the early 90s when the industry switched over to using mostly 25" monitors.

Atari still plugged away with dedicated cabs in the 85-89 timeframe, but not many others did (except driving games of course). Of course I am just rambling, both cabinets you mentioned were from 1980 anyway.  ;D
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2003, 12:23:45 am »
Hmm. If I were you I would start on on the Aqua Jack first. Since the other two of them are working games. Enjoy them working until you get your other projects going. Working on more than one project at a time is a mistake I ALWAYS make. Like right now, the sticks are out of my Time Pilot, my swappable panel cabinet is in pieces in my shed, and my Amazing Maze is awaiting its new hard drive, which is sitting on my table. At least my Artic Mini is up and running.

I know the feeling, I just finished recapping the monitor in my RoadBlaster cockpit. I really need to put it back together before starting on the others.  I also have a sit down Spy Hunter that needs boards, but it's back burner till I find them. My bro and 9 year old nephew came to the shop today, my nephew had an absolute ball playing the machines. He echoes your sentiment, and I'm inclined to let him enjoy them as they are till I get one of the gutted cabs up and running. I'll probably do the Dynamo cab first, that'll cover the vertical games and let my nephew see that the cabinet is gaining a lot more games when converted to MAME.

On the Aqua Jack cabinet, after discussing it with my bro I'm leaning on using it as a driving game cabinet. I have my two favorites already, but neither is really suited to normal driving games and the Aqua Jack cab already has a throttle pedal.


Good luck on the Mesquite auction, if it's anything like the Winston-Salem auction working classic games will fetch premium prices. There may be some classic cab conversions that are bargains, but I'd expect them to be few in number. The real bargains are in the not working group, there were quite a few non working/incomplete games that went for $10 to $40 bucks at W-S. Just be prepared to stay late to bid on them.

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Re:Not quite ready, but I'm that much closer...
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2003, 09:15:57 am »
Just be prepared to stay late to bid on them.

That reminds me...
How late is late???
I know these things start at 10 AM (previewing 8-10 AM)...
But how late do these auctions usually last? (I say usually because I know it will always varry by the number of auction items, I'm just looking for a rough idea here)
I've got at least one friend coming with me and I want to let him know.
I'm not worried about it, I'm sure there will be enough junk around to keep me distracted all day long.

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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2003, 09:25:49 am »
At W-S they were still unloading trucks at 10 AM. Bidding finally started around 10:30AM, and ended around 9:30 PM.

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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2003, 04:31:43 am »
AlanS, I don't think it will be a huge issue.  When some of the MAMErs see what total crap they are bidding on (most of it worthless to anyone but a collector or operator), most will leave early.  It's true.. sure you can spend under $100 and get a cab.. but if you realize you have to spend another $100+ to get it looking halfway decent (that's before you even customize), you start to think twice.

The real probs are the collectors who buy stuff and part out what isn't fixable on greedBay :/

Paige, LOL.. I'm the same way, too.. your JtGK is in parts in the process of a total rebuild, my System I has 1 side laminated and needs a paint job, and my Pac-Land is still in the middle of 'monitor work' (sigh.. and now I'll probably be taking it out again to lam it, too, eventually) :P

PS: I wouldn't expect to get any deals like the ones in Salem, guys.. at least not on machines *that* nice.  I'd say one of those cabs in that nice of condition would probably be at least $100 in Mesquite.  Somehow the auctions there seem to encourage a large circle of collectors and resellers :(
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2003, 05:07:38 am »
I usually do quite OK at the auctions. I stay right next to the auctioneer. That way he sees me first when I toss out that crucial $25 bid. You HAVE to get that in first, otherwise someone else will, and then you are having to bid $50.

My first auction purchase was a working Capcom Bowling with a dead monitor (in a pac-man cabinet). It was the second game of the auction, with the first being a Ms. Pac. The Ms. Pac went for like $900, and everyone was still grumbling about that, and I snatched the Capcom Bowling for $25. Another dead monitor one brought $75, later, and a working monitor one brought $200 at the same auction.

I got a nice "13 video poker for $50, when all the others at the auction were going for $100-$200. They had one row of 19" Cherry Masters with that lone 13" video poker in the middle of them. All the other 13" ones were in a different row. Every one who was watching at the time was going for the Cherry Masters, and thus did not bid on mine. Then when they did get to the row of 13" ones they all went for $100+ (except the ones with monitor problems).

I got my dart machine @ $25 when all the others went for $100 plus. Because mine didn't power up, and the person who won it suddenly realized as soon as they had finished the row, and he backed out. I yelled $25 to the guy writing the prices, he took it, and they moved on. (Adjusted the power supply knob at home, and then it worked fine).

My Assault was $150. I hadn't planned on getting it, but I had happened to examine it earlier, and noticed that it had brand new sticks in it. Those alone were worth $150. So I bid $100, someone else bid $125, and then I got it for $150. I enjoyed that one for some time, and finally sold it for $300, just because it wasn't in living room condition like my other games (I sold EVERYTHING that wasn't in living room condition a while back).

Of course, there are also the things I missed. I lost a Roadblasters cockpit because I though the auctioneer was calling for $175, when he was actually calling for $75. So it sold for $50, and my predetermined ceiling on it had been $150 (had a video ram problem). I lost a Turbo cockpit to someone who just would not give up on it. I think he finally paid $275, and no one else bid except for me and him.  Lost a Keno machine with a reset problem because I was slow in getting the $25 bid in (my stepfather REALLY wanted a Keno machine), someone else got the $25 bid in, and I wouldn't go $50 on it.
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