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Stern's Timing With New Machines
« on: July 21, 2010, 07:31:34 am »
Why doesn't Stern put new movie themed machines on the market when the movie is in theaters?  I would think that would only bring more plays for the ops.

IIRC, TDK wasn't released to the public until after the movie was out of theaters, not sure about Iron Man.  Avatar didn't make it either.

Years ago when I was a kid (I know, different times) one way to kill time waiting for a movie to start was to play some of the pins/vids/claw machines in the lobby.
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Re: Stern's Timing With New Machines
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2010, 10:50:23 am »
Yeah, move companies are restricting release dates for this stuff. Aside from that though, Stern is done taking gambles on licenses that haven't proven themselves first. Imagine if they had created Avatar, put all that money into designing it, and then the movie flops. It would make the machine very undesirable to both the home and operator market. Now that it's a proven hit franchise, they can put the machine out and it should draw some interest with the re-release and the eventual sequel.
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Re: Stern's Timing With New Machines
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2010, 02:36:32 pm »
was the same dealio with the terminator 2 pinball machine... from www.ipdb.org

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Reportedly, due to pre-release secrecy around the Robert Patrick 'liquid metal' T-1000 character and the chance the game could be released prior to the film, the T-1000 character was not shown in the cabinet, playfield, and backglass artwork, with the exception of a small picture of actor Robert Patrick on a light shield. With the game still in development, by the time the DMD programming was finalizing (which happens after the artwork), the liquid T-1000 was already public knowledge, which allowed the character to be included in the display animation. When a player gets an extra ball, the DMD graphic stating to shoot again is a clip of the T-1000 opening a door and getting shot by Arnie with a shotgun.

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Re: Stern's Timing With New Machines
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2010, 05:34:29 pm »
Why doesn't Stern put new movie themed machines on the market when the movie is in theaters?  I would think that would only bring more plays for the ops.

IIRC, TDK wasn't released to the public until after the movie was out of theaters, not sure about Iron Man.  Avatar didn't make it either.

Years ago when I was a kid (I know, different times) one way to kill time waiting for a movie to start was to play some of the pins/vids/claw machines in the lobby.
Iron man was released in time.  I'm surprised they are not waiting for the second Avatar movie to come out as Stern usually waits for a second or third movie before they proceed with a title.

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Re: Stern's Timing With New Machines
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2010, 07:58:35 pm »
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Stern is done taking gambles on licenses that haven't proven themselves first

 Heh.   You mean like  Wheel of Fortune, Ripleys, & Sopranos?   :laugh2:

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put all that money into designing it,

 What?  Stern designs? Stern puts money into a machine?  Har Har.

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I'm surprised they are not waiting for the second Avatar movie

 I believe I read that Steve Ritchie had started on it, and then it was cut ($$$).

 They probably are scrambling to dig up anything that could possibly convince the
money men to drop any more cash into a sinking ship.   That and the fact that
they probably dont even have a pinball table designer anymore.  Probably gona take
the unfinished whitewood, and produce it as-is... hoping people will overlook the
many flaws/problems, merely because of the movie success.

 The whole idea is pathetic really.  The thing that made Avatar a success, was
that it was 3D, and the beauty of their world... Which Stern will never put
enough money into re-producing to be anywhere near convincing/beautiful.

 (The poorly colored inkjet clippings will be hideous)

 The movie does not have the typical taglines that stand out, so sound-clips
will be pretty bad... and not really motivating at all.

 The theme is still better than some of their crappy choices. But does not mean
people will go and drop big money on a cruddy, stripped down, generic,
$4 thousand dollar, poorly designed toy.  Nor put quarters into it passing by.

 Very sad...

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Re: Stern's Timing With New Machines
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2010, 01:30:56 am »
There comes a point where you just have to stop posting, man. You're a broken record. We've all heard the song before, and it's far beyond stale. Give it a rest. It would be fine if it was just a difference of opinion, but you don't even have basic reading comprehension skills. You respond to things inappropriately, you don't have your facts straight, you can't look at anything objectively, and you randomly capitalize things that have no business being capitalized. Oh, and your random hard returns in your posts are nonsensical as well.

WoF, Ripley's, and Sopranos are the EXACT reason why Stern is done with unproven themes. I said done with, not never has used. Come now, you really can't be that hard of understanding these things, can you?

Do us all a favor, Xiaou2. Stick to threads discussing Indiana Jones (WMS) and No Fear.

P.S. I bought an IJ based on your praise for the game. It lasted six months here and I sold the thing the next pinball show I could drag it to. Beautiful machine, great theme, but clunky as all get out and kinda lame. Thank goodness I got full value back out of it...

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Re: Stern's Timing With New Machines
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2010, 05:35:39 pm »
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WoF, Ripley's, and Sopranos are the EXACT reason why Stern is done with unproven themes. I said done with, not never has used. Come now, you really can't be that hard of understanding these things, can you?

 Dear Stupidgamer.... (how fitting)

   Proven pretty much means "Popular".  As in, WOF is a Popular TV show, just
as AVATAR, was a popular movie.   That is their Reasoning behind making an
Avatar pinball machine... and pretty much Any pinball machine Period.

 They tried Remaking an existing Tile, "Indy", and Flopped with poor gameplay / design.
They are Not making original machines.

 Its you who lacks any real comprehension skills.

 As for your opinion of IJ, it does not surprise me in the least.  People like you wouldnt
know a good game to save your life.  The very reason why you got your full $ value
back, is because the masses seems to agree that it Is a good game, worth paying
top dollar for.  (Well beyond Sterns craptastic attempt)

 As for your childish rant about my posts:  "Ignore Option", else deal with it, "Baby".
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Re: Stern's Timing With New Machines
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2010, 08:49:09 pm »
Striker Extreme enough said.