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Specific games, where r thou?
« on: May 01, 2010, 01:51:27 am »
I just have a small questions regarding specific games that I will want to make sure I have upon building my MAME cab.

Games that I have spent many quarters in my days that are the main focus of me doing this.
So I need to know which emus, minimum specs and all to run these, or if they run at all.

Midway's Open Ice 2 on 2 challenge
Sega's Virtua Cop 1 & 2
Sega's Virtua Fighters 1 & 2
American Laser's Mad dog Mcree

thank you.

please say yes... lol

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Re: Specific games, where r thou?
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2010, 08:39:54 pm »
Let's see...

Yes
No and No
Yes if you have a fast pc and No
No


It sounds like you are a child of the VERY late 90's and on top of that, a fan of 3d games.  Honestly mame probably isn't for you.  Most 3d games in mame run slowly or not at all. 

With that being said, the games I all said no to have pc versions.  Mind you they aren't the best ports in the world (especially maddog) but they'll get the job done. 

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Re: Specific games, where r thou?
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2010, 01:16:44 am »
Was just curious about MAME and it's capabilities.

So the limitation lies with the emulator, not the hardware, got it.

born in 74 btw, new to mame, not gaming in general. lol

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ps: sorry to byoac for posting in the wrong section.

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Re: Specific games, where r thou?
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 06:55:42 am »
So the limitation lies with the emulator, not the hardware, got it.

Nope you've got it backwards... the limitation lies with the hardware, not the emulator.  Mame can emulate anything, the thing is, it EMULATES it.  Proper, non-cheating emulation requires a lot of processing.  As a general rule of thumb, you take the processor the game ran on, multiply it's speed by a factor of 10-15 and then if it has invidiual processors use the same equation on each of them and combine the number.  That's how much processing power it takes to run the game. 

Also you've got to understand that the games you've mentioned just happen to be games that mame does emulate yet.  Honestly it's like you went to the unmamed website and picked the top ten that aren't emulated.  They will eventually run in mame, just not right now. 

Maddog is a laserdisc game and they just recently became available in mame.  The game would probably run right now but nobody has made a chd image of the laserdisc footage yet.  It would be very slow though due to the way mame has the laserdisc footage piggybacking on the artwork system.  For this one particular game it might be mame and not the hardware.

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Re: Specific games, where r thou?
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2010, 08:28:48 am »
Very informative response, understand it, thank you.

Was just a coincidence to ask about those as they where pretty much the last that I had played in arcades before the home console comfort.
Big fan of shooting games especially, virtua cop being my fav. Had good times playing some oldies in the beginning, bubble bobble and arkanoid hate many quarters of mine as well, but knew those would run.

Thanks again Howard, clarified some details for me and even made me understand "emulation" a little more this morning.

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Re: Specific games, where r thou?
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2010, 12:07:19 pm »
Sorry, Just finished playing virtua cop (arcade version) on my my cab to say that yes, Virtua cop Can be emulated, and very well. Works Great with the aim trak.

It just dos'nt run on mame, But then you did ask what emus they run on. Its a model 2 emulator. Google it up.

Back to Virtua Cop :)

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Re: Specific games, where r thou?
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2010, 10:07:21 pm »
Aim track thing looks pretty sweet. Did looked that up a while ago and made my list of things to order for this build.

Confusion = calling my build a MAME cab when if fact, I know it will be running many emulators other than MAME.

My question was more related to what was needed to run these and if they could run, if my first post is read again.

I did see something about an M2 emu upon youtubing some cab builds, was looking for the frontend I was going to use and saw cool vids about hyperspin. Most guys had that emu in the wheel and I knew it was SEGA related. When I played those games in arcade, we would see that at one point or another.

thanks for the insight, very anxious to get started on that project, just will be taking my time with this one.