iPad complaint thread.

[protokatie]

Yes, I have one, but others need to come out and admit their shame.(or am I the only dumb ass to buy one?)


This is an extension to the other iPad thread, so throw your apple hate here.
(for the record I am still an amiga fan) also, I am not an iPad fan. I threw away 500 of my dollars when I could have easily kept them.

[opt2not]

Let me start it off with:

[ammitz]

 

[Ed_McCarron]

[wp34]

Yes, I have one, but others need to come out and admit their shame.(or am I the only dumb ass to buy one?)


This is an extension to the other iPad thread, so throw your apple hate here.
(for the record I am still an amiga fan) also, I am not an iPad fan. I threw away 500 of my dollars when I could have easily kept them.

Anything specific or just basic buyers remorse?

[Hoopz]

Yes, I have one, but others need to come out and admit their shame.(or am I the only dumb ass to buy one?)


This is an extension to the other iPad thread, so throw your apple hate here.
(for the record I am still an amiga fan) also, I am not an iPad fan. I threw away 500 of my dollars when I could have easily kept them.

Anything specific or just basic buyers remorse?

Don't drink and buy stuff online.   

[wp34]

My iTouch is one of my favorite devices.  I'm curious because I got my hands on the iPad at Best Buy last night for the first time.    I was a little surprised how large it was.  A little uncomfortable to use.  They didn't have Internet turned on so there was not much you could do with it.  I was a little underwhelmed but my 12 year-old absolutely loved it.   My kids would use the heck out of it if we had one.

[CCM]

wi-fi issues?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/ptech/04/06/ipad.wifi.problems/index.html?hpt=T2

[shmokes]

I think it's retarded that it doesn't have a built-in webcam for using Skype or iChat.  I think it should have far better support for streaming media, i.e. Samba AND DLNA (it bewilderingly supports neither).  But other than that I can see a million things I'd use and love it for.  Kindle books, PDF reader, streaming media (no SMB, but there are still options, also Netflix now and Hulu soon), epicurious, weather, some cool games (dungeon hunter, geometry wars), browsing the web comfortably on the sofa, newspaper/magazines (NYT and popular science both look awesome), and a bunch of other cool apps that I won't mention cos I've gone on too long already.

I'm not gonna get one now because I don't have the money, but even if I did I wouldn't get one because it has no webcam.  But if it did, that'd probably be enough for me to overlook the other problems.  It certainly doesn't seem horrible and it has a million apps, many of which look great.

[t3design]

I love the fact that America is a place where people can ---smurfette--- about a product they didn't have a thing to do with developing, didn't invest any money in, or have any intention of buying.

If you don't want one, don't buy one. Seems pretty simple to me.

If you think Apple is so bad at anticipating market trends (of course don't let the fact that the iPhone has surpassed Microsoft Windows Mobile and is gaining on RIM influence you at all) or user desires, then don't invest any money in Apple Stock.

PC users probably just need something to do while they wait for Microsoft products to reboot after crashes.
That would account for all the time PC users spend bashing Apple products.

[shmokes]

 

[shmokes]

It's purely a consumption device

Which makes the absence of standard streaming protocols all the more absurd

[shmokes]

It streams everything Apple sells just fine.

Don't be dumb.

[wp34]

(on another note, I'd like to mention my wife's $2,300 macbook pro that's 5 months old has a dud DVD drive... another documented problem on google.  thank goodness we've got applecare on this one...)

I'm on the third DVD drive on my iMac.  I'm happy with my purchase and will buy another one but the idea that Mac's are more reliable is a joke.

[shmokes]

I'm not.  I'm currently online shopping for an external DVD drive solution so my wife can install the mac version of Office ($300! cha-ching!) so maybe I'm a touch bitter.

They do not want you perusing content you did not purchase from them.  Everything you've griped about is something you could enjoy without paying them their toll, so it isn't happening.

I get that.  But it's absurd.  I'm obviously commenting on the device vis-a-vis a consumer.  Imagine if the iPod would not play MP3 files -- it would only play music you buy from iTunes.  It would be absurd.  Even if Apple has everyone so gaga over their ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- now that it makes good business sense, it is absurd from a consumer point of view -- even if most consumers are too gaga to realize it.

[protokatie]

I'm not.  I'm currently online shopping for an external DVD drive solution so my wife can install the mac version of Office ($300! cha-ching!) so maybe I'm a touch bitter.

They do not want you perusing content you did not purchase from them.  Everything you've griped about is something you could enjoy without paying them their toll, so it isn't happening.

I get that.  But it's absurd.  I'm obviously commenting on the device vis-a-vis a consumer.  Imagine if the iPod would not play MP3 files -- it would only play music you buy from iTunes.  It would be absurd.  Even if Apple has everyone so gaga over their ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- now that it makes good business sense, it is absurd from a consumer point of view -- even if most consumers are too gaga to realize it.

You hit upon an ipad problem I noticed, no AVI support either. So many of the vids on my file server I cant even sync with the ipad as most of them are in formats other than mp4. I "could" handbreak all of my vids, but that would take years and lower the quality of all my vids... There really is no excuse for not supporting all of the major formats and standards...

[shmokes]

And the pat answer, that h.264 is better is ---smurfing--- absurd.  So what?  There are probably a dozen compression methods that are better than mp3.  Maybe you should pull mp3 support from the next version of the iPhone.  I understand why Apple does this, but understanding why your wife's lover stabbed you in the throat and left you to bleed to death on the sidewalk doesn't make it suck any less.

[Xiaou2]

 Years ago, I bought an 80gb Ipod.  Cost me a boatload, but I figured since
it was so expensive, it would last longer.

   Immediate Suckage:

1) No clip or way to hold the device
2) Too Easy to scratch
3) Would not work with win98.  Even had trouble with XP... had to go thru
all sorts of hoops to make it work in windows.
4) Touch Wheel cant be adjusted with Gloves on.  Have to use nose to adjust
volume most of the year here in Upstate NY.
5) Battery not easily replaceable.
6) Nearly tore the touch wheel off when I brushed a table corner
7) Cant make a custom EQ, & most their settings are absolute Crap.
8 ) No good games available.
9) Almost no buttons, and you need several accessories to even use the thing.

  Horrific Suckage:

 The 3mm thick rubber shell I bought for it, had a clip failure.  The device slid
down my leg, flew off at my knee, and hit the floor.  A tad more than a mere
Foot... encased in a thick rubbery shell, and it ceased to operate correctly.

 Owned less than 1yr.  (11 months)  Went to Apple to check the Warranty.
Apple claims my device was out of warranty, because it sat on the shelf
for a month or more.  Seems they dont count when you bought the thing.

 After jumping thru hoops on their website, I find out that it will take about
$300 to fix the device!

 Yeah right!  I feel like driving to Apple to shove the device up Steves Rear end.

 The HD is shot, and I probably could get a replacement... but thankfully,
Ive now got a Sony 16gb  player, which has a custom 5 band EQ, with
custom level  non-deforming/distorting bass boost.   No moving parts.
has like a 48 hr battery life!  REAL BUTTONS to navigate effortlessly, even with
glove on!   Voice recorder. Radio. And much more... for a mere $130.
(probably less now)   No config headaches. No need for custom software to use it.

 Apple can Byte Me.  Ill never buy a thing from them ever again.

 If I want a tablet, Ill buy a Real Tablet. One that actually can Do things,
and has some actual buttons and ports on the thing.  One you can actually
Easily replace a battery on.  One that has a stylus, and not that crappy
Touch interface. One that has an actual keyboard.

 Supposedly the Ipads are in short supply, so maybe you can offload the
Pile to another fool.

[shmokes]

Whoa there tiger . . .

[RayB]

While we're digging WAY into the past there Xiau, I should share some horrible experiences I had with Windows 95. Holy cow was that a piece of crap. Crashing all the time. DirectX was running games in a WINDOW and wouldn't full screen without keeping window widgets and frame visible. It wouldn't connect to the internet without some weird configurations of something called TCPP?

Anyways. That was it!! Never buying a Microsoft product EVER SINCE THEN!! Why? Because products can NEVER get better, and companies can NEVER redeem themselves! Nope, no way!

[Level42]

Yes, I have one, but others need to come out and admit their shame.(or am I the only dumb ass to buy one?)


This is an extension to the other iPad thread, so throw your apple hate here.
(for the record I am still an amiga fan) also, I am not an iPad fan. I threw away 500 of my dollars when I could have easily kept them.

I will happily receive it in my mail. I will pay for shipping if that's really needed, but I feel I'm doing you a big favor by getting rid of it.

And you're making a fellow BYOAC-er happy with it, for I will use I want to use it for.

See, i'm one of those old guys that think that watching movies should be done on a big TV, with my B&W 6 series home theater surround set. That is actually enjoying a movie. So I don't care if it plays videos.
And listening to music (I mean sitting, doing nothing else but listening to music) is done through the same B&W set.
Or my Ipod Nano when I'm in the car or out. One of those devices I bought and just have worked ever since without a single issue.
I use a phone (Nokia) for calls.
I don't own a web-cam for my Mac, why is it so important ? Why would I want one that would make REALLY weird pictures from your lap (imagine how that will look).


The iPad:
I want it for surfing the internet on the couch, reading e-mails etc.
I want if for reading and scrolling through PDF's when I'm working on a cab
I want it for showing my (family) pics to friends and family
I want it for small-party (2/3 people) instructions (presentations) that I give (where a beamer is just a joke)


I'm not that demanding really. I will PM my address if you're interested of getting rid of it....

[CheffoJeffo]

I originally thought I would want an iPad -- for many of the same reasons that L42 does, except that I want to be able to stream all of my media and I want to be able to take it to meetings instead of my monster notebooks or a netbook.

I also want, on occasion, to be able to do some tasks that Apple doesn't have an app for (and being able to do those tasks would allow me to expense the damn thing).

I am REALLY hoping that HP's Slate doesn't suck!

See, i'm one of those old guys that think that watching movies should be done on a big TV, with my B&W 6 series home theater surround set. That is actually enjoying a movie. So I don't care if it plays videos.
And listening to music (I mean sitting, doing nothing else but listening to music) is done through the same B&W set.
Or my Ipod Nano when I'm in the car or out. One of those devices I bought and just have worked ever since without a single issue.
I use a phone (Nokia) for calls.
I don't own a web-cam for my Mac, why is it so important ? Why would I want one that would make REALLY weird pictures from your lap (imagine how that will look).

Yeah, but you play low resolution video games housed in big wooden boxes, so what do you know ?   

[Xiaou2]

Because products can NEVER get better, and companies can NEVER redeem themselves! Nope, no way!

  Actually, Apple does not get better... because they stick to core beliefs
that they will not change.

 They believe its far better to have almost no ports on their devices,
because ports look bad, to them.   Same reason why there is no easy battery
change - because that would put visible screws on the device.

 These are only a small few reasons why no I-Device will ever be better.
There are far more reasons beyond those.
 
 
 MS does believe in change.  However, that change usually is made to make things
more difficult, and less effective.

[polaris]

Because products can NEVER get better, and companies can NEVER redeem themselves! Nope, no way!

  Actually, Apple does not get better... because they stick to core beliefs
that they will not change.

 They believe its far better to have almost no ports on their devices,
because ports look bad, to them.   Same reason why there is no easy battery
change - because that would put visible screws on the device.

 These are only a small few reasons why no I-Device will ever be better.
There are far more reasons beyond those.
 
 
 MS does believe in change.  However, that change usually is made to make things
more difficult, and less effective.

the iphone is the best piece of technology i have owned or experienced. or at least i thought so until i read your post stating that your opinion is correct where everyone elses opinion is incorrect

[Hoopz]

Because products can NEVER get better, and companies can NEVER redeem themselves! Nope, no way!

  Actually, Apple does not get better... because they stick to core beliefs
that they will not change.

 They believe its far better to have almost no ports on their devices,
because ports look bad, to them.   Same reason why there is no easy battery
change - because that would put visible screws on the device.

 These are only a small few reasons why no I-Device will ever be better.
There are far more reasons beyond those.
 
 
 MS does believe in change.  However, that change usually is made to make things
more difficult, and less effective.

the iphone is the best piece of technology i have owned or experienced. or at least i thought so until i read your post stating that your opinion is correct where everyone elses opinion is incorrect

[Ed_McCarron]

Actually, Apple does not get better... because they stick to core beliefs
that they will not change.

Good thing theres noone like that around here.   

[solidteezme]

Im a fan of macs, had more than one myself imac g3, powerbook G4. And had many varietys of ipods before.

But this looks like such a waste of money, i understand people with iphones, £35 a month is fairly standard for a smartphone and yes they are good kit but they hold features back then re-release it with them (example, 3g). which c'mon a piece of tech like that without it is fairly useless. If you have WI-FI in your home you aint gonna have it just for your iphone are you? likely to be a laptop about which would be used for surfing and such at home. Btw are some awesome (cheap!!) games on the iphone, probably its best feature.

But the Ipad, its basicly a jumbo iphone, with all the limitations from the iphone.  I can't see why anywone would buy the top $829 ipad over a HP Mini 311, i know its not a tablet with no touchscreen. But it has got a keyboard and a track pad, and over 3 times the top ipads storage.

HP Mini 311


Which has everything you need on a fully fledged windows 7 operating system.

But if you do go for the Ipad just remember "you qualify as one of the mindless sheep consumers that the ipad is aimed at"

[Blanka]

I'm not.  I'm currently online shopping for an external DVD drive solution so my wife can install the mac version of Office ($300! cha-ching!) so maybe I'm a touch bitter.

Use a Mini or any other mac and use it over firewire as target mode DVD drive. Its more to blame MS. DVD-drives are supposed to be dead, Apple should kill DVD support before killing flash support. Al software should be available as download or on a USB stick.

[Blanka]

the iphone is the best piece of technology i have owned or experienced. or at least i thought so until i read your post stating that your opinion is correct where everyone elses opinion is incorrect

But does it make you happy? Nobody with an iPhone seems Happy with it (only the first week)
The piece of tech that makes me most happy is 2 things:
Our office Saeco full automatic espresso machine,
My 1975 Orange juicer from Philips.

Nothing with bits and bites comes close to that

[sunnywala]

But the Ipad, its basicly a jumbo iphone, with all the limitations from the iphone.  I can't see why anywone would buy the top $829 ipad over a HP Mini 311, i know its not a tablet with no touchscreen. But it has got a keyboard and a track pad, and over 3 times the top ipads storage.

HP Mini 311


Which has everything you need on a fully fledged windows 7 operating system.

But if you do go for the Ipad just remember "you qualify as one of the mindless sheep consumers that the ipad is aimed at"

or you could buy a dell mini 10, and dual boot osx and win7...

btw guys, apple iphone os 4.0 press event starts shortly

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/live-from-apples-iphone-os-4-event/

[Level42]

Nothing with bits and bites comes close to that

If you really believe that, what are you doing on this forum ?   

[RayB]

But does it make you happy? Nobody with an iPhone seems Happy with it (only the first week)

Everyone I have ever encountered who has an iphone LOVES it. Half of them have been women, and when was that last time you heard a woman gush over a tech gadget? Some people just hate it when hype actually delivers in reality. I don't know why. It seems childish. Kind of like the kid who says "well I didn't want any anyways!" when told he can't get what he wants.

[jfunk]

But does it make you happy? Nobody with an iPhone seems Happy with it (only the first week)

Everyone I have ever encountered who has an iphone LOVES it. Half of them have been women, and when was that last time you heard a woman gush over a tech gadget? Some people just hate it when hype actually delivers in reality. I don't know why. It seems childish. Kind of like the kid who says "well I didn't want any anyways!" when told he can't get what he wants.

I love my iPhone    AND my wife loves hers.  Talk about odd..  Both of us loving the same gadget... 

[testicle187]

I'll buy anything as long as its shiny and made by Apple.

[Blanka]

Everyone I have ever encountered who has an iphone LOVES it. Half of them have been women, and when was that last time you heard a woman gush over a tech gadget? Some people just hate it when hype actually delivers in reality. I don't know why. It seems childish. Kind of like the kid who says "well I didn't want any anyways!" when told he can't get what he wants.

I love my iPhone    AND my wife loves hers.  Talk about odd..  Both of us loving the same gadget... 
[/quote]
thats not love! Iphones are like sigarettes. Just something to grab in your hands. 99% of what is done with it is waste of time. Just like me entering this on it, with a more than crap text entry field;)

[HaRuMaN]

Has anyone tested its absorbency yet?   

[Blanka]

Can some mode repair my quoting? It stinks to correct it on a iphone. I want cursor keys now!

[Hoopz]

You couldn't install it from a network drive or download an ISO from within your network to install it?

Don't have a mac but that's what I would have tried before hacking stuff.   

[Edgedamage]

You couldn't install it from a network drive or download an ISO from within your network to install it?

Don't have a mac but that's what I would have tried before hacking stuff.   

Bah it's more fun to hack, networks are for streaming movies & music.

[Malenko]

My GF got us both Iphones, I only got one to replace my blackberry pearl.  I'm one of those weird people that primarily uses a phone to call people. I like the MP3 player built into the iphone, I hate the lack of a hard keyboard (i'd buy an attachment if they sold one). I also hate the fact it wont work in MP3 player mode in my Scion tC, well I can use the AUX input for my car,  but the IPOD interface cable wont work with it.

My GF freekin LOVES hers, texts, facebook, web browsing,etc  We both use the camera to take pictures, but the photos are hit and miss

[shmokes]

I have a Nintendo Wii.  The graphics are pretty limited compared to a Playstation 3 or Xbox 360.  It's pretty similarly powerful to a Gamecube.  I like the IR pointer, but the motion controls are pretty rudimentary and unreliable.  There are some really good games for it, but most of them are 1st party games.  The 3rd party games are generally not great quality, but strangely even the really good 3rd party games don't often sell very well on the platform.  Perhaps this is partially the reason that 3rd party publishers don't put in the time/expense to deliver really polished games for the platform.

[patrickl]

The iPad:
I want it for surfing the internet on the couch, reading e-mails etc.
I want if for reading and scrolling through PDF's when I'm working on a cab
I want it for showing my (family) pics to friends and family
I want it for small-party (2/3 people) instructions (presentations) that I give (where a beamer is just a joke)

A netbook is much more suitable to those needs and at half the price of an iPad. For the same money as an iPad you can buy one with a swiveling touchscreen that you can even turn into a tablet if you must.

[shmokes]

I don't know about that.  I played with a friend's iPad for a few minutes and it felt very speedy.  Also the PDF support was awesome.  He had a program that gave him like 8 different colored highlighters and you could highlight and annotate PDFs super quickly and intuitively -- great for school work, which is what I would want it for (if I wasn't about to graduate).  In terms of surfing the internet on the couch, I don't know.  A netbook would have Flash, which would make the experience better, but again, the iPad is very speedy, and the form factor is pretty great.  As far as showing family pics to family and friends, I can't really imagine a netbook is better than the iPad.  It's such a simple task, and one that is done extremely well on the iPad, that I think at best a netbook could match it.

If you were making arguments about legit productivity (Word, Excel) then I think your argument would be pretty opened and closed.  The iPad lacks a hardware keyboard.  The end.  But to suggest that the iPad does nothing better than a Netbook is just pointless Apple hating.

[patrickl]

I didn't suggest that.

[danny_galaga]

I'm thinking that things the Ipad doesn't have, Apple anticipate being obsolete fairly soon (in regards to what the Ipad is for- browsing etc). And that even if that weren't the case, the mere fact of the Ipad becoming a huge seller will make it so...

They've got their ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- together nowadays, whether you like their products or not...

[Ed_McCarron]

Maybe they don't care about browsing this web.  I hear next month they are releasing a new cybernetic implant to allow you to browse the AppleWeb where they control everything - you included.

[RayB]

I've used a Netbook and surfing its tiny screen with scrollbars and a trackpad or "nub" is just getting "archaic".  PEOPLE! you gotta look at more than just a generalized feature list! All cars have 4 wheels and 1 steering wheel but they don't all drive the same.

[patrickl]

I've used a Netbook and surfing its tiny screen with scrollbars and a trackpad or "nub" is just getting "archaic".  PEOPLE! you gotta look at more than just a generalized feature list! All cars have 4 wheels and 1 steering wheel but they don't all drive the same.

Netbooks come with touchscreens too and you can switch to fullscreen.

Netbooks have keyboards so you can properly type when you want to write something on a forum, e-mail or whatever and you can set them down and still read the screen.

I had the same idea, that browsing the web on a tablet would be the coolest ever, but I was done with that in a week and now never do it anymore. I guess if you really only read and don't mind holding the thing in your hands all the time then you'd be fine.

[Level42]

I've used a Netbook and surfing its tiny screen with scrollbars and a trackpad or "nub" is just getting "archaic".  PEOPLE! you gotta look at more than just a generalized feature list! All cars have 4 wheels and 1 steering wheel but they don't all drive the same.

Netbooks come with touchscreens too and you can switch to fullscreen.

Netbooks have keyboards so you can properly type when you want to write something on a forum, e-mail or whatever and you can set them down and still read the screen.

I had the same idea, that browsing the web on a tablet would be the coolest ever, but I was done with that in a week and now never do it anymore. I guess if you really only read and don't mind holding the thing in your hands all the time then you'd be fine.

You know the funny thing is that you have never ever touched the damn thing, and you are already so full of hate for it.

But even IF you will ever work with it, you will dish it just because you want to because it's an Apple product.
Somethings in life are just pointless. Like trying to convince an Apple hater of it's GOOD points.

The funny thing is, that in this country where Patrick and I live, Apple used to be a _very_ minor party. The number of Mac users was really only the guys in music and graphics/video.
Now, there are a shitload of Apple stores, you can buy their products on every street corner, yet they never aired ONE TV commercial over here.

I'd say there _must_ be something about their products that people seem to like.

And history repeats itself: The iPod had the same critiques. It lacked this and that, there were _so_ many alike devices already on the market, the price was too high, well I don't have to explain who's the market leader in the MP3 player market now.
When the iPhone came, the same story.

The iPad will have the same effect. I know you laugh now, but we'll talk a bit more in about a year or so.....

[syph007]

Oh I'm about the biggest apple hater around... everyone I know is as well.  I admit im not their target market, but the arrogance of steve jobs in those product launches really really drives the hatred.   The ipad... i wont tell you why you need it.. just that you need it.. its the best INTERNET experience ever for some reason.. blah blah magic blah blah...  He will somehow have you think he invented the tablet pc.. i was using one in 2004 and thinking it was stupid then.  I still believe its a hard sell to find a device niche between phone and laptop that ISNT a netbook.  I can see the reader reason, but thats what those eInk devices are for, this ipad crap is a regular LCD?

I find everything about them to be insulting to my intelligence.  I realize they market to the lowest common denominator so that they have a wider audience... but sheesh.   I'm old, i remember laughing at people who had macs back in the day.. they should have died off as a company back in the 80's/90's.  I've written apps for palm, windows mobile, blackberry, android and I felt by way of peer pressure to try writing for the ipad.  Horrid crap is all I can say.

[patrickl]

I've used a Netbook and surfing its tiny screen with scrollbars and a trackpad or "nub" is just getting "archaic".  PEOPLE! you gotta look at more than just a generalized feature list! All cars have 4 wheels and 1 steering wheel but they don't all drive the same.

Netbooks come with touchscreens too and you can switch to fullscreen.

Netbooks have keyboards so you can properly type when you want to write something on a forum, e-mail or whatever and you can set them down and still read the screen.

I had the same idea, that browsing the web on a tablet would be the coolest ever, but I was done with that in a week and now never do it anymore. I guess if you really only read and don't mind holding the thing in your hands all the time then you'd be fine.

You know the funny thing is that you have never ever touched the damn thing, and you are already so full of hate for it.

I don't hate the device. Just saying that I have a similar device (acually I have several tablet devices) and that like Protokatie, I was disappointed with each of them up to a point.

Since you claim I'm a hater, I'd like to propose that it is in fact YOU who has the clouded judgement. How many tablet devices do you own (or have you owned)? I'm guessing zero. Now Apple comes out with one and all of a sudden you *must* have one. You are basically the prototype fanatic. Everything Apple makes is "the best evar".

[Dartful Dodger]

I normally avoid these Hitler subtitle movies but...
Hitler's iPhone app is rejected by Apple:

What kind of name is Jobs anyway?

Probably Jewish.

[patrickl]

I've written apps for palm, windows mobile, blackberry, android and I felt by way of peer pressure to try writing for the ipad.  Horrid crap is all I can say.

Yeah I'm from the same era.

I get so tired of these "new" and amazing apps that keep coming out for the iPhone. Everytime it's the giddy "omgz it's so amazing. Look what it can do". When I just sigh and reply "Ehm yeah I could do that with my Palm Vx a decade ago".

Still I could see the iPad being a nice alternative to a regular ebook reader. It has the right size screen and it has color. It's a bit expensive for just that though. Also, again a tablet Netbook would do the same and much more for still less money.

[Level42]

I've used a Netbook and surfing its tiny screen with scrollbars and a trackpad or "nub" is just getting "archaic".  PEOPLE! you gotta look at more than just a generalized feature list! All cars have 4 wheels and 1 steering wheel but they don't all drive the same.

Netbooks come with touchscreens too and you can switch to fullscreen.

Netbooks have keyboards so you can properly type when you want to write something on a forum, e-mail or whatever and you can set them down and still read the screen.

I had the same idea, that browsing the web on a tablet would be the coolest ever, but I was done with that in a week and now never do it anymore. I guess if you really only read and don't mind holding the thing in your hands all the time then you'd be fine.

You know the funny thing is that you have never ever touched the damn thing, and you are already so full of hate for it.

I don't hate the device. Just saying that I have a similar device (acually I have several tablet devices) and that like Protokatie, I was disappointed with each of them up to a point.

Since you claim I'm a hater, I'd like to propose that it is in fact YOU who has the clouded judgement. How many tablet devices do you own (or have you owned)? I'm guessing zero. Now Apple comes out with one and all of a sudden you *must* have one. You are basically the prototype fanatic. Everything Apple makes is "the best evar".

I'd say that makes the score equal.

I haven't used any touch devices, but I've been a PC (windows) user for a long time (against my will mostly, I managed to keep using my Atari ST way into the 90's) and I even supported them (hell I'm a MCSE) and in fact THIS has turned me away from PC's and made me go look for an alternative. I'm happy with my Mac, I'm happy with my iPod, I've used the iPhone a good number of times, I am feeling very safe in saying that if there's one manufacturer capable of making a touch tablet device _WORK_ it is indeed Apple.


And god am I tired of those Hitler subtitle movies, it was funny with the first .....one or so but it has SO run it's course.

And I do think that remark about Steve Jobs is actually pretty discriminating and should not be on this forum.

My parents suffered as kids in the war. It was not a joke to have hunger, to have to leave family, walk for days to go live with unknown people because there was food there, having your hometown bombarded (Rotterdam) to oblivion. To have a brother who was shot by the Nazi's. Talk to my parents about the war and you may think again about these "funny" vids...

It also hurts a brilliant movie.

[patrickl]

That hardly makes the score equal. There is nothing superspecial that one can do for webbrowsing or book reading. Turning a page or clicking a link really isn't rocket science.

Besides, if all the technical problems that people are reporting (weak WiFi, overheating, charging problems) are anything to go by then I'd say you lost that bet already.

I'm sure it will sell well though. Apple users generally don't seem to care.

[shmokes]

Still I could see the iPad being a nice alternative to a regular ebook reader. It has the right size screen and it has color. It's a bit expensive for just that though.

If by expensive you mean $10 more than a Kindle.   

[danny_galaga]

It also hurts a brilliant movie.

Bloody brilliant movie. I urge anyone who hasn't seen it to do it now! And don't look at any more of those stupid 'hitler rage' clips...

[patrickl]

Still I could see the iPad being a nice alternative to a regular ebook reader. It has the right size screen and it has color. It's a bit expensive for just that though.

If by expensive you mean $10 more than a Kindle.   

Indeed that Kindle (the large model at least) seems too expensive too.

Still, since it doesn't have the e-ink and thus outdoor use is limited, it's more a competitor to reading e-books on a netbook. In that sense you can buy a netbook for half the price and you can use it for more than just e-book reading.

[solidteezme]

Never seen E-ink in action,

But that kindle thing can only display ebooks, for the price that seems fairly crappy unless you have thousands upon thousands of ebooks.

For $10 more i think i would take home the ipad,

[patrickl]

Never seen E-ink in action,

But that kindle thing can only display ebooks, for the price that seems fairly crappy unless you have thousands upon thousands of ebooks.

For $10 more i think i would take home the ipad,

Or you pay half that for the 6" model ...

[shmokes]

The iPad has that too.  It's called the iPhone.   

[solidteezme]

The iPad has that too.  It's called the iPhone.   

Well the ipod touch , correct me if im wrong but the ipad isnt a phone.

[patrickl]

The iPad has that too.  It's called the iPhone.   

That's more like a 3" model.

[CheffoJeffo]

The iPad has that too.  It's called the iPhone.   

That's more like a 3" model.

There is a joke in there somewhere ... I wonder if Mrs shmokes would laugh ...

[hypernova]

I realize they market to the lowest common denominator

They also prefer the ones with money apparently spilling out of their accounts.

I'm amazed.  It's the first time shmokes has been decent in his evaluation of the Wii.  So where's the outrage for the iPad's initial shortcomings, which we all know it has quite a few?  You're practically gushing over the thing.

[shmokes]

LOL . . . my Wii post was 100% just making fun of Malenko's post immediately above it.  I have to admit to being a little bit disappointed for getting no reaction.