New *Official* WORLD RECORD holder of GUN SMOKE! - MAME & Dedicated *2,247,650

[mrclean]

I did not submit my record to twin galaxies , because i don't have wolfmame..  and I know this was on a MAME machine, but i'm very proud of my HS Beating out Dwayne Richards official HS of 2,134,300 on a dedicated machine... I now have the *Unofficial WORLD Record of : 2,174,350 2,192,450 2,222,750! If any one can send me wolfmame or whatever is required for creating INP files for twin galaxy compliance via PM id love to retry it again, because I know i can actually beat that score. .. I think it's time to submit a run to twin galaxies .

*We'll I finally did infact hit up TG, and after submitting a few over 2 million point scores, they did not accept them because I discovered the additional points that you can earn on level one with the flying dragon flies. They have since changed the rules because of me on that particular game::

Special Rules: This is a Single Credit game ONLY! Inserting more then 1 credit will risk your score being immediately disqualified

After resubmitting another run with the new rule set in place I'm now the official world record holder for Gun.Smoke in MAME with a score of 1,896,250. I'm currently building a dedicated/conversion for Gun.Smoke so I can also get that record as well.  I have since already sent in a score of 1,946,650 for MAME but they didn not update that yet, it took them aprx 3 weeks to post my first submitted score.

I also noticed.. and probably only dwayne and me would notice, but after achieving 2,100,000 It did not give me an extra marshall ! I was very nervous as I was down to 1 guy, so maybe i'm wrong but im pretty positive.

*US SET 2, (Only difference with US Set 2, and 1, and world and Jap set.. is that US Set 2 has levels 3, and 6 swapped, and on the bottom it says romstar 1986.)

[ChadTower]

Some of us are official world record holders.   

[TOK]

Go here, and the various versions of WolfMAME are listed under Versions at the top.
http://marp.retrogames.com/

You have to find a real machine though! 

[mrclean]

You have to find a real machine though! 

I intend on building a dedicated gunsmoke cab with the actual pcb, but would rather find an original dedicated, I know alot of them were pacman / centipede quick conversion kits. At least I know how to break the record now I have NOS Extra side art set for this game, hey it's a start?

[Neverending Project]

How long does a game last at 2+ million points?

[mrclean]

How long does a game last at 2+ million points?

about an hour on a single quarter no continues

[ahofle]

Did you ever figure out the deal with those firefly looking graphics glitches in MAME?  I think that was you that found it anyway.

Congrats on the score.  I always thought that was a very difficult game.

[Ginsu Victim]

How long does a game last at 2+ million points?

about an hour on a single quarter no continues

That's not so bad. Now to find you a real machine....

[mrclean]

Did you ever figure out the deal with those firefly looking graphics glitches in MAME?  I think that was you that found it anyway.

Congrats on the score.  I always thought that was a very difficult game.

Yes! well I was correct.. basically once you see one, every 15 quarters they will appear on level 1. I only have one coin in side B(6)... rest are in slot A(5)...

US Set 2

Coin A, B =Amount of dragon fly's
611+1=612 =2x = 20,000 extra points on level 1
626+1=627 =3x = 30,000
641+1=642 =4x =40k
656+1=657 =5x =50k
671+1=672 =6x =60k
686+1=687 =7x =70k
701+1=702 =8x =80k
716+1=717 =9x =90k
731+1=732 =10x =100k
746+1=747 =11x =110k
761+1=762 =12x =120k
776+1=777 =13x =130k
791+1=792 =14x =140k
806+1=807 =15x =150k
*Update* ::: 821+1=822 =*aprx 40x-50x =400k-500k !!!!!
836+1=1x (back to only one dragon fly)

World (set)
coin A: 1271 coin: B 60=1x = 10,000 points

*Every 15 Coins an extra dragon fly will appear worth 10,000 points each on level one.. and eventually randomlly resets it self again until you find the 15 coin pattern.

here again is the video i uploaded to youtube playing with my feet! because i was recording with my other hand, but you can clearly see my score go up 10,000 additional points upon hitting the dragon fly.. level one after the first guy with dynamite tossing at you, you should have about 4,000 points or so this is the place where you would see them appear if you wanted to test it out be my guest!
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=ocTbC6mMvnQ[/youtube]

[mrclean]

That's not so bad. Now to find you a real machine....

I have found a few conversions very beat up, I was offered a very cheap 100.00 for 2 different cabs but id like to have one cosmetically in better shape. Does funspot sell their games? this is a tough one to find in good shape because most were conversions, I saw the PA Game room warehouse had one listed on the web site, i went to see it in person because I was going to Hershey park, and I was offered it for only 100 bucks, but very poor condition / water damage needed cap kit, guy didn't know even if the pcb worked. also i noticed it was in an atari cab. Other one is on klov for 100 bucks but doesnt even have the 3 buttons to shoot the bullets with , rather dip switch was changed to fire bullets with the joystick, not my cup of tea.. I have recently seen the PCB go for 29 bucks last week on ebay which is pretty good... I'm sure i'll find the right condition one eventually and the person selling it to me would be happy to know that a world record will be accomplished on that machine!

[somunny]

I guess it's finally time for me to break out the VHS of my 2.35 million score. 

[mrclean]

I guess it's finally time for me to break out the VHS of my 2.35 million score. 

bring it! I know I can beat the score I got today.. just looking for new challengers! serious? I hope.. I need some competition. I'm still having trouble setting up wolfmame for the INP stuff

side note.. btw love your indiana jones cab, looks awesome so far! wish I could afford the new Stern pinball indiana jones cab

[ahofle]

I guess it's finally time for me to break out the VHS of my 2.35 million score. 

 

[erictrumpet]

This is awesome.
Unofficial score is good enough for me, congrats Mr Clean!
For me, being the best in my house at a game is good enough.

Eric.

[mrclean]

This is awesome.
Unofficial score is good enough for me, congrats Mr Clean!
For me, being the best in my house at a game is good enough.

Eric.

Thanks, now if only i can get wolfmame working! 

[erictrumpet]

I am too lazy to research it myself...
In a nutshell, what is wolfmame?

Eric.

[ahofle]

It's a custom version of MAME that is less prone to cheats/exploits.  For example you can't pause the game.

[somunny]

I guess it's finally time for me to break out the VHS of my 2.35 million score. 

bring it! I know I can beat the score I got today.. just looking for new challengers! serious? I hope.. I need some competition. I'm still having trouble setting up wolfmame for the INP stuff

side note.. btw love your indiana jones cab, looks awesome so far! wish I could afford the new Stern pinball indiana jones cab

Thanks!  The project is on hot weather hiatus right now.

And no, I'm not serious.  Just a King of Kong reference.   Congrats on your score. 

[erictrumpet]

Hmmmm. Wolfmame sounds interesting.
It always kinda bugged me that we can pause in-game. That's about an inauthentic as you can get!
Same with save state, when used to beat higher levels. Cheating!
(Save state is good for saving high scores for those that aren't supported by hiscores.dat I know, when it works that is)
Anyway, I've often considered disabling/removing my pause button. But I know the Ipac shift sequence too and I can't unlearn it.
Just gotta have discipline...
My rules (I try to live by):
1. no pausing for breaks
2. no quitting a game early if you suck out on the first level (gotta "play out the quarter")

Eric.

[mrclean]

yeah i got wolfmame working, i can play my game etc.. but i don't know how to create the INP file and where it saves it to etc?

i was told "In command-line:
> mame gunsmoke -record gunsmoke.inp
 not sure how to do that

solution to creating INP in wlfmame..
-open note pad, type in : "mame gunsmoke -record gunsmoke.inp" and save the file as ; gunsmoke-record.bat



*edit..*
*now i got it to save an INP file, however i still don't know how to have it generate a .WLF file as well... also once i create the INP is there a way to play it back ? if so how>?

[miles2912]

No Pause?  Suppose my beer is getting warm or I need to take a call in the middle of a game.  Dam.. I love my pause button.

EDIT -  I need to check out Gun Smoke on my cab.  Never heard of the game and looks like fun.

[mrclean]

EDIT -  I need to check out Gun Smoke on my cab.  Never heard of the game and looks like fun.

don't get addicted, or you will beat me~!

[TPB]

Don't shoot !  I'll come quietly, and take a plea bargain.   


Hey, with that score ... did you complete all the levels, kill all the bosses, and reach the end of the game ?   

[mrclean]

Don't shoot !  I'll come quietly, and take a plea bargain.   


Hey, with that score ... did you complete all the levels, kill all the bosses, and reach the end of the game ?   

Shocked no one else asked me that yet, That's a really good question, and the answer is surprisgly no! I got up to level 10 to the three brothers, yes I have beat the game before, however if you do that's it and your score is what it is.. so you need to purposely die, especially if you have marshalls left.. the trick is to try to drain as many as you can and then attempt to beat it on that last guy. technically if i beat him it would of been an additional 85,000 points.. they are tough.. well the main brother of the wingate family anyways. here is a pic of me beating it another time.. obviously the score isnt nearly as good;

sidenote.. tpb, ment to ask a while ago, but you happen to have pig joe as
your avatar, what's your HS ? or do you just like that character?

[miles2912]

Ok. Lots of fun and added to my list of favorites!

[pinballwizard79]

I just learned not only is that game extremely hard but it also works out my forearms. 

Seriously, it takes at least 2 hours of pinball to do what 10 minutes & unmentionable continues on Gun Smoke does.

You have some skill to say the least, its tough to adapt to the bullet range & timing moving angle shots.

[mrclean]

You have some skill to say the least, its tough to adapt to the bullet range & timing moving angle shots.

thanks !

Oh yeah close to getting wolfmame working, i can get it to create an inp file and i know now how to play it back.. two problems.. how do i get it to create a wlf file. and if in mame i hit tab, and then playback the inp file it doesnt show what settings im using is this normal? in other words if i hit tab, go to book keeping, or video settings anything it wont display it during playback of the INP file i'm using the command line , i tried wolf mame plus and i just got grey bars i wasnt even able to load a game.



sidenote, is that a dynamo cab? looks nice

[pinballwizard79]

Well its a showcase, unsure if Dynamo made it.

Kind of like asking for Kleenex & hearing "All we have are tissues"  .

Man my arm still hurts

[TOK]

I played this game years ago on the NES, but forgot the arcade version was vert until I saw miles2912's post.
Put it on my vert cab and played, definitely a hard game. Think I managed around 100k after a few plays, mostly based on skills learned playing Commando. They look and sound a lot alike, wish Commando had the continue feature and 3 button shooting!

[newkillergenius]

[
sidenote, is that a dynamo cab? looks nice

It certainly is.  Used to have one of those beasts in my living room.
Now it's in my living will.

[Ummon]

Though at first I was skeptical, turns out I like this game. Love the graphics. It's certainly a workout at first, and then one gets used to the three directions and optimising when to fire, but moving up high on the screen, as well as just becoming familiar with the baddies' entry spots, getting them early and with fewer shots. Played maybe ten games and almost killed the third boss, so maybe a really high score is in the future. Still, the hectic-ness of this game - '85, doesn't that predate the manic vert shooters by a few years?

[mrclean]

Though at first I was skeptical, turns out I like this game. Love the graphics. It's certainly a workout at first, and then one gets used to the three directions and optimising when to fire, but moving up high on the screen, as well as just becoming familiar with the baddies' entry spots, getting them early and with fewer shots. Played maybe ten games and almost killed the third boss, so maybe a really high score is in the future. Still, the hectic-ness of this game - '85, doesn't that predate the manic vert shooters by a few years?

My advice to you is that you play either..
Gun Smoke World             *Ninja level 3 Indian Chief Level 6
Gun Smoke US set 1         *Ninja level 3 Indian Chief Level 6
Gun Smoke Jap                *Ninja level 3 Indian Chief Level 6

Not Gun Smoke Set 2..
Because level 3, and 6 are swapped
*Indian Chief level 3 Ninja Level 6

But it's all a matter of opinion i suppose

[mrclean]

With Hyperspin about to have a public release in a day or two I thought it would only be fitting for me to design the theme for gunsmoke so i created this:



Alt Colors:



http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2328/53004227jc7.swf

Another Flash idea:

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6417/36002719sm1.swf

Hopefully someone can help me to have this for the August 6th release

[TPB]

It goes without saying, but congrats on the awesome score.   

yes I have beat the game before

When you complete the game, does it have a little ending animation ?

Perhaps riding into town on your horse, with the town folk cheering from either side of the street ... then you dismount from your horse, stride into the town clerk's office, and collect a few sacks of cash for your hard-earned bounty money ?  And then, maybe use some of that cash for some well deserved R&R at the town's whore-house.  

tpb, ment to ask a while ago, but you happen to have pig joe as your avatar, what's your HS ? or do you just like that character?

I thought his name was Joe Keep ... have a look at his bounty poster on intro. screens ...

I'm "ordinary at best" at playing the game ... don't worry, your high score shall never be at threat from me.   

I've yet to get past the Ninja boss throwing those stars, at the end of level 3.

While I was never great at the game, it's one of the games I remember most fondly from my teenage years ... it was always great fun to play, and I had good times playing it with my brother and my mates in those days, at the local bowling alley.

So this game, apart from being great fun, has a nostalgia aspect for me.   

[mrclean]

It goes without saying, but congrats on the awesome score.   

When you complete the game, does it have a little ending animation ?

Perhaps riding into town on your horse, with the town folk cheering from either side of the street ... then you dismount from your horse, stride into the town clerk's office, and collect a few sacks of cash for your hard-earned bounty money ?  And then, maybe use some of that cash for some well deserved R&R at the town's whore-house.  

We'll it's very boring actually its got really slow text that makes you pull your hair out to read because it's typed in very slowly, it would of been nice for the score to "roll" and let you keep playing . I hope some day to see this game as an arrangement kinda like Namco's classic collection vol.1 and 2 Pacman, sure the original is by far better the chemistry works and its cool to see a slight change, but keeping most of the game play original

I'm "ordinary at best" at playing the game ... don't worry, your high score shall never be at threat from me.   

good to know.. but i think i can get 2.5 / 2.8 who knows maybe even 3 million! eventually so i eagerly await anyones legit challenge.

I've yet to get past the Ninja boss throwing those stars, at the end of level 3.

TIP : The ninja is vulnerable right afer he does his back flip. and if your still struggling, try to retain the horse when you get up to him.

 

While I was never great at the game, it's one of the games I remember most fondly from my teenage years ... it was always great fun to play, and I had good times playing it with my brother and my mates in those days, at the local bowling alley.

So this game, apart from being great fun, has a nostalgia aspect for me.   

Ive yet to play it on a dedicate machine! have seen one in non working order though I knew of this game because it was my dad and my favorite on the NES, found it on MAME which was one of my reasons for building my cab.

[Ummon]

I'm playing the world version, so yeah the ninja. Nice themes there. Background could go either way.

[mrclean]

Just beat my HS again, now my new best is currently 2,192,450 I can now also confirm that when you get 2,100,000 points you are not awarded an extra life

[Ginsu Victim]

Get this man to a real Gun.Smoke machine, pronto!

[mrclean]

Get this man to a real Gun.Smoke machine, pronto!

The only one that i know of is at funspot in NH, and I live in NY kinda far at the moment especially with the cost of gas, however hypothetically in the event I decide to go off peak on a non tournament day how does it work exactly do i ask a random worker that i'm about to attempt to beat a record can you watch me etc..?

[Ginsu Victim]

I would just contact Funspot before you go and ask when the best time to do it is. That or ask over at Twin Galaxies' forum.

Come on, NY to NH? That's not that far. At least gas has dropped a bit.