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Author Topic: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style - Spring construction has begun!  (Read 31479 times)

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Well, I really didn't want to start into another project this soon, but who does?  I am dismantling my current jukebox in order to make this one.  With that said, I have the following things already:
1) 19" touchscreen
2) 22" widescreen second monitor
3) 2 ledwiz controllers and 20 rgb led's from ggg
4) 2 250 watt cerwin vega floor speaker assemblies
5) Kenwood amp
6) Karoake amp
7) Betabrite

In order to get me super motivated, I purchased this computer package today for $299:
New Computer
Intel Pentium D 945 3.40GHz OEM, 500GB SATA HD, 20x DVD±RW, 3GB DDR2 PC5400, ATX Mid Tower Case, 500 Watt Power Supply

Now, with the help of the shopbot cnc, I plan to include many things that I would have never been able to before.  This may be slow in getting started, but I am looking forward to it! :cheers:
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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2008, 07:55:53 pm »
I need more backstory...

What happened with the previous jukebox?

With that shopbot, and your imagination.... sky's the limit

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2008, 09:22:54 pm »
Here is the link to the old jukebox.  It was great and the students loved it, but I just want to try something different and more authentic looking.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=69257.0

Here are some youtube videos of it working:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=69257.msg784051#msg784051

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2008, 10:06:25 pm »
You can't do that! :angry:

That thing was too cool. When can I come pick up the shell of the old juke  ;D


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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2008, 01:16:54 am »
That thing sure as hell is/was (:'() cool!

I cant blame you for wanting to make another now you have your shopbot.

Do you have anything in mind design wise etc for it?

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2008, 09:03:18 am »
Do you have anything in mind design wise etc for it?
Something of this variety, but without the wood grain:

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2008, 09:13:51 am »
Have you considered just selling the old one? That thing was sweet and I'm sure you could get good money for it.

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2008, 10:15:58 am »
Have you considered just selling the old one? That thing was sweet and I'm sure you could get good money for it.
Good point! Thats probably what I would've done. Sounds like it's already been disassembled though.


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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2008, 11:41:36 am »
I haven't done anything with it yet.  The big trade off is that I'm just giving up on all the time put into it.  I can sell the shell I guess, as it is already for a setup.  The hassle of training someone to use it is the underlying problem.

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2008, 08:25:43 pm »
Funny enough i'm doing this myself but im cheating basically :P

http://ebs.ez.net.au/images/ebs_products/musicalInstruments/jukebox/img_01.jpg

I'm buying this 3 cd wurlitzer clone from ebay and gutting it and putting a 7" touchscreen and making it coin operated i've got all the parts besides the jukebox gotta wait 30days for it to be shipped to australia

It's only 1meter tall but on a stand it works out nicely i'll probably use a keywiz aswell to have some coloured leds sadly it's missing the bubble effect but i know the mini wirlitzer i got prevously had a bubbler and all it was is oil that bubbles when it heats up (the glass that holds the oil in it when it bubbles exploded and i got a refund)

If you need any pics or mesurments on anything on my juke im happy to help when i recieve it

Just wish i had money to get a real wurlitzer  :'(

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2008, 11:59:53 pm »
Thanks to Mountains' suggestion, I decided to tackle the bubbler system today.  I bought a dual air pump for a fish tank today at PetSmart and some 3/4" od 1/2" id tubing from Home Depot.  With just the right amount of light air release, perfectly timed bubbles rise up through the tubes.  Tomorrow I'm going to see if the local Tractor Supply Company is open and get a 1/2" t valve with a pressure release.  Pics to come in the near future for those of you who have no clue what I'm talking about. ;)

EDIT:
Here are some youtube videos of what I'm talking about.  It's the tubes with air bubbles on the edges.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABulxFikby8[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsQCXhLosoY&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTwqgDpxz5g&feature=related[/youtube]
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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2008, 03:57:40 am »
Man thats going to be a lot of finishing work. I wish I had a huge shop and a bunch of minions I could enslave to help me with my projects:-( But watching that build you did was very informative, and I can definitely see your going to do a great job:-)

I say sell it on craigslist for $1000 with the disclaimer: Must have some technological experience to set up and use. This jukebox does not use cds and will play mp3s. For amusement only.
On top of that the text saying that your gameroom needs one of these, be the envy of all your friends.  Hehehe. Just a thought.

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2008, 10:28:42 am »
I found this while wasting some time this morning.  I submit for your viewing pleasure on this 4th of July:



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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2008, 04:53:32 pm »
Okay, I need some input.  Small bubbles or large?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWSYBtSYZow[/youtube]

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2008, 05:20:40 pm »
Small bubbles!

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style - Small bubbles or big? You decide.....
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2008, 08:29:45 pm »
Big Bubbles!

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style - Small bubbles or big? You decide.....
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2008, 10:36:47 pm »
No small!
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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style - Small bubbles or big? You decide.....
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2008, 10:38:38 pm »
Quote
found this while wasting some time this morning.  I submit for your viewing pleasure on this 4th of July:

Is there something like a hellcade for jukeboxes? That looks hideous  >:D
Wish list: Galaga, Pacman, Pooyan, Star Wars cockpit, Gauntlet, Tron

And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three.

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style - Small bubbles or big? You decide.....
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2008, 10:50:42 pm »
McCoy, if you haven't already thought of this...

Be sure that the feed air line is long enough to go up ABOVE the top of the bubbler tube and then loop down to the pump.  That way, if the pump shuts down, the water stays in the tube.

It only takes one failed flapper valve to make a wet mess on the floor.
But wasn't it fun to think you won the lottery, just for a second there???

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style - Small bubbles or big? You decide.....
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2008, 10:58:45 pm »
Good idea! :cheers:

No small!
Is this a vote for small or big?

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style - Small bubbles or big? You decide.....
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2008, 02:16:09 am »
I like big bubbles!!! This is going to be a vote. Throw one in the topic for voting!

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« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2008, 07:33:43 am »
Small

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2008, 09:42:58 am »
Hmm, I would go the big bubbles as the smaller faster bubbles create too much *noise* (not sound, but looks) - as in it creates too much of a busy scene drawing too much attention away from other parts of your juke box you want to show off (going by your previous project their is much to admire  :) ). But this is only my personal view as I was looking at doing a similar jukebox project (albeit very much on the amateur scale) for my 'try hard' imitation of a Wurlitzer (changed direction halfway, hopefully not as bad looking as the example you posted).

Be really interested in seeing how you implement the bubbler part, started looking into the 'how' but ran out of time to do so with my juke.
I'm assuming their is a bit of noise with the pump? The biggest issue I have with my jukebox is the sound of the fans as with ppl over it's not always used at full volume :)

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style - Small bubbles or big? You decide.....
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2008, 10:23:17 am »
One other thought...  Be sure to add some bleach or alcohol to the tube to prevent plant growth.  You're making a nice aerated algae farm there.  Water + air + light = green stuff.
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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2008, 11:29:25 am »
Again................brilliant!

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style - Small bubbles or big? You decide.....
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2008, 12:00:04 pm »
I can tell you that pc modders who use water as a cooler use distilled water and water wetter mix which stops any type of algae growing

It's sold at pepboys (some american auto shop)

The bubbler wurlitzer used a chemical called Dichloromethane which is all toxic which i don't reccomend it was a closed system the heat from the bulbs created the bubbles.

I do believe there is an oil that is the same and will boil(create bubbes) with little heat and non toxic

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« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2008, 02:04:29 am »
How about mineral oil it was frequently used in the 70's to make groovy stuff like Rain lamps, etc. If memory serves heat was applied and it did a bubble thing.

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style - Small bubbles or big? You decide.....
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2008, 03:08:36 am »
Small!

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« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2008, 07:36:12 am »
Small.

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« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2008, 08:04:03 am »
Very cool buddy.  8)

You could always have two tubes next to each other, one with large bubbles and one with small. Or you could even have three - large bubbles in the center pipe and small ones in the outer two.

You could maybe even use different diameters of pipe (eg, one large pipe and two smaller ones etc)

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« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2008, 08:38:43 am »
Very cool buddy.  8)

You could always have two tubes next to each other, one with large bubbles and one with small. Or you could even have three - large bubbles in the center pipe and small ones in the outer two.

You could maybe even use different diameters of pipe (eg, one large pipe and two smaller ones etc)
Hey, you trying to kill me here?!  ;D

How about mineral oil it was frequently used in the 70's to make groovy stuff like Rain lamps, etc. If memory serves heat was applied and it did a bubble thing.
I'll have to do some google searching on that.

I am going to a plastic store today and look into solid clear tubing.  I am also going to head over to the aluminum yard and see what kind of stock they have for cutting out the accent pieces and speaker grill. :applaud:

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style - Small bubbles or big? You decide.....
« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2008, 09:34:28 am »
Seems goz is right on track

http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php

altho it's a computer they are just using an air stone (the air filters in fish tanks that blow air) so it seems the oil won't harbour bacteria so that seems like the solution as the water creates algae

do double check the oil wont create mould etc as i did a quick search and nothing came up but just to be safe

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« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2008, 11:44:10 am »
Seems goz is right on track

http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php

altho it's a computer they are just using an air stone (the air filters in fish tanks that blow air) so it seems the oil won't harbour bacteria so that seems like the solution as the water creates algae

do double check the oil wont create mould etc as i did a quick search and nothing came up but just to be safe
Most excellent computer they have there.  I will be stopping by the vets office before this is all over. ;)

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« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2008, 03:55:48 pm »
Okay, shopping list update:
1.  The computer arrived today.  Everything made it but the case.
2.  I bought 5/8" and  3/8" hard tubing for the bubbler.  $35
3.  I bought 1/4" x 24" x 55" black plexi as it will be the main accent piece of the jukebox.  (Mountain, I need to borrow your polishing skills) $110
4.  I bought 1/16" x 24" x 48" qty.2 of soft aluminum to create all of the accent pieces and the speaker grill.  $34
5.  The local animal hospital said a gallon of mineral oil will be $18.

Now it is time to start designing. :applaud:

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« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2008, 01:24:39 am »
I've started to do some Sketchup of what I'm thinking.  I've decided that I will not be able to bend the top curve with tubing like I planned, so the project has changed a little.  This pic is how far I got tonight.

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« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2008, 04:03:30 am »
Im guessing it's the bigger tube and not the bubble tube thats giving you the problem with bending it?

I looked into doing this years ago and i found some clear huge tubing just like the bubble tube you have  which would bend easily.

Not knowing what tubing your using couldn't you do the wurlitzer style but instead of it being bent have it square?

could have the accent pieces on the top corners it think a square version of a wurlitzer with the lil viewing window would be cool

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« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2008, 11:37:29 am »
Ahh, I found the reason why you decided to do this project...can't say I blame you! You have a proof of concept already to go by.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=81207.msg847697#msg847697

I bet that thing would weight a ton though.

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« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2008, 11:50:24 am »
Ahh, I found the reason why you decided to do this project...can't say I blame you! You have a proof of concept already to go by.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=81207.msg847697#msg847697

I bet that thing would weight a ton though.

Wow! That thing is amazing!  :o

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style - Construction has begun!
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2008, 09:35:32 am »
I finally was able to start cutting tonight.  The video is kind of jacked up, but you can at least get the idea.   :cheers:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e37zfdhMJE8[/youtube]

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Re: New Jukebox - Wurlitzer style - Construction has begun!
« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2008, 09:41:25 am »
I can't believe you did all that in one night.  It looks like everything was cut PERFECTLY too.  I am jealous of your skills and your awesome woodshop.  This thing is going to be great!   :cheers:

  
 

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