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Author Topic: Vista 64 Owners - Light Gun Solution (sorta)  (Read 4569 times)

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Vista 64 Owners - Light Gun Solution (sorta)
« on: March 27, 2008, 04:20:30 am »
Okay after gleaning a bunch of info from several sources I finally have a lightgun that works in Vista 64 and Mame 123u6!  It still needs some major tweaking but I did manage to get the damn thing to work for the most part.  Until EMS or someone comes up with a solution for their drivers for Vista this will have to do.

Basically if you have a bluetooth dongle, a Nintendo Wiimote and sensor bar (optional) you can make this function.

Download BlueSoleil driver software trial from http://www.bluesoleil.com/download/ - some dongles are prepackaged with BlueSoleil - if not download this trial - it has everyhting you need for the wiimote as it is.

Download WiinRemote v2007.1.13 software from http://onakasuita.org/wii/index-e.html

Install BlueSoleil software trial (the tial limits the data you can transfer bewtween BT devices to 5 MB which is more than adequate for our purposes) - note if you have a Microsoft BT wireless keyboard or mouse, its dongle cannot be made to work with this.  In fact BlueSoleil will disable the BT Stack and your MS Keyboard and Mouse will be temporarily disabled.  You can reinstall them under Control Panel/Hardware/Keyboard and reenable the MS dongle (which is a only has scaled down BT functionality in the first place - just make sure you have a spare PS2 or USB keyboard lying around).

Install WiinRemote v2007.1.13 - you can now use your Wiimote as a fully functioning mouse.  This software is cool because it allows you to either control the pointer/cursor via the Wiimote's built in motion sensor or traditional infrared sensor bar.  I am using it with my EMS Topgun sensor bars as the moment and it works not bad in terms of tracking.  I find the Wiimote tracking much smoother than the TopGun!

The other thing you can control is the WiiMote buttons can be programmed to function however you like - eg I set the A button to emulate left mouse click once and B button to emulate right mouse click once.  You can also set a button to toggle on/off the Wiimote controlling the pointer - very useful.

Any way I need to do some more extensive testing and calibration to get the set up proper.  Once that is done, I'd like to either strip the Wiimote and hack my TopGun to convert it fully or I am sure soemone has come out with a Wiimote gun already that could be used.

One other final though about what's realy cool here - no more umbilical cord!

Rich

PS - Ill post some pics/vid once I get the tweaking sorted out.

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Re: Vista 64 Owners - Light Gun Solution (sorta)
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2008, 05:59:44 am »
Sweet, nice to see somebody in the MAME community testing this. I was planning on testing this myself, but life got very busy of late and I haven't had the time or the money to do it.

I looking forward to seeing how it works out.

If your looking for something to make the Wiimote more gun like, I suggest grabbing a Brando Wii 2 in 1 light gun, you should be able to pick one up for under $20 usd.











It's best looking gun adaptor I've seen for the Wiimote so far, still not a stunner but it's better than nothing.

Anyway keep up the good work and keep us in the loop.


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Re: Vista 64 Owners - Light Gun Solution (sorta)
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2008, 08:16:29 am »
Ive got this all setup, and working within WiinRemote, but have just loaded up terminator 2, and the cursor doesnt move with the wiimote, just with the mouse. How do i set it up so the wiimote moves the on screen cursor?

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Re: Vista 64 Owners - Light Gun Solution (sorta)
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2008, 08:22:18 pm »
can anyone confirm that this actually works using the IR sensor of the wiimote?  i have seen in the past where you can use it as a joystick with mame, but not with teh IR/mouse functionality. IF anyone has got this working for sure, i would love to know.

also, on a side note..nyko makes a nice gun attachment for the wii as well, it seems to be sold out at eb, but if you can find one, they look really nice.

http://www.ebgames.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=68825

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Re: Vista 64 Owners - Light Gun Solution (sorta)
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2008, 01:06:49 am »
I can vouch for those nYko light gun cradles. I own two and they are fantastic, but they are really tough to find.

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Re: Vista 64 Owners - Light Gun Solution (sorta)
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2008, 08:30:08 pm »
well, i got the wiimote working with vs duckhunt, using the IR functionality as a lightgun.  however i cannot seem to get it to recognize any of the button inputs.  i would like to be able to use the B button to shoot, but it only seems to work if i use a button on my panel instead.  any ideas why?  i havent tried any other lightgun games, because i dont know of any others.  i am going off to look for mame lightgun games now to try them
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Re: Vista 64 Owners - Light Gun Solution (sorta)
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2008, 11:13:04 pm »
i tried a few other games, still no buttons working.  i have mame set to use the lightgun for lightgun games, but none of the buttons work.  if i tell it to use the mouse, mame doesn't recognize the lightgun at all.  i don't really see this as a viable option.  even if i can somehow get the buttons to work, i can't seem to get the PC to connect to the wiimote via bluetooth automatically.  i guess if i were running mame on a regular windows install, i could just connect, then open wiinremote program manaully and then open mame.  but if it is going to work on my cabinet, it needs to be automatic. i load mala as shell, so explorer never loads.  and another issue is that wiinremote doesnt save my customizations, so i have to manually configure it every time it launches. 

i guess i'll have to stick with no light guns for now

oh, and just to be clear, I am doing this on windows xp pro sp2, 32bit.  not vista 64
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Re: Vista 64 Owners - Light Gun Solution (sorta)
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2008, 04:34:41 am »
Hi:

How do you calibrate the WIIMOTE pointer? The only way I know is with GLOVEPIE, not WIINREMOTE.
By calibrating via Software is not the best way for me. Different games, sometimes, requires different calibrations.

Let me guess, you must play with the mouse cursor activated.  :applaud:

If anyone know the answer, please, tell me. Calibrating by Software with Glovepie for each game is a little pain for me.

Regards
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Re: Vista 64 Owners - Light Gun Solution (sorta)
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2008, 07:24:05 am »
i was using it with the cursor enabled, which is kinda lame, but was better than nothing.
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