Japanese buttons worth?

[Stormrider]

I'm having some problems in finding japanese buttons here in Europe. I'd like them in black, and from the top range of the Sanwa or Seimitsu catalogues (the normal ones have very poor reliability, I've read). So, I don't think if I should use again standard concave buttons from Industrias Lorenzo. I'm happy with them in my current panel and I don't know if I should waste more time and effort about getting japanese buttons. I'll use my panel for all kind of arcades, and specially shmpus.

[kowal]

you need only 1 OBSN30-RG series button for fire and standart OBSN30 for other buttons.
RG is very durability but price is high but you need only one max 2 RG buttons.
Black made only seimitsu but GNX series alternative for RG does not be produce.  RG and GNX work almost identically if you need black panel  5-6 PS-14-GN buttons and 1-2 RG white

[Stormrider]

Thanx Kowal again for the answer. The only place I've found where I can buy japanese buttons is starcab. The problem is that they have only some models and colors and very limited stock in general. That's why I was asking. I've never tried japanese buttons, but since many people are saying good things about them, I'm curious. Anyway, I think I'll have to buy concave western-type buttons again, but with cherry microswitches now. They're reliable and I've never had problems of them being slow, unconfortable or getting stuck, etc.

[Orclord]

They do have to order them though....


http://www.gremlinsolutions.co.uk/orderseimitsupushbuttons.php

http://www.gremlinsolutions.co.uk/ordersanwapushbuttons.php

[Kajoq]

Stormrider - I personally am a huge proponent of japanese parts.  I have an all sanwa PS2 joystick, and all sanwa on my arcade control panel.  In my opinion its definitely worth a few more dollars (euros?) to track down sanwa/seimitsu parts.  Especially if you're hardcore about shmups, the response on the sanwas is so much faster than HAPPs

[mchay]

Are any of the japanese buttons on www.arcadeshop.de anything worth?

[Stormrider]

Nice german site, but I'm afraid they have none of the top range buttons by Sanwa or Seimitsu. The models they have are guaranteed for 1 million operations. Compared to the 10 million guaranteed for western-type buttons, you can understand why some people say that they wont last longer than a few months if you play very often.

[kowal]

they in home aracde will act long but in aracde salon yes they die enough quickly. all depends from culture playing- it was it been possible to lengthen them life 2x if you not mashing;P

[Kajoq]

While they almost certainly won't last as long as HAPP, in your own use without a billion retards at an arcade banging away, they last quite a while.

I've had my PS2 arcade stick for over a year now, and it gets heavy Marvel vs Capcom 2 play on it and the buttons are still great, and MvC2 is a game where mashing is literally part of the game (mash supers for extra damage, not to mention the frantic pace of the game as a whole)

Sanwa all the way