Author Topic: Coin Door working with Mame? (Read 11163 times)

Retro_SA · « **on:** February 10, 2008, 02:52:00 pm »

I'm looking for a coin door like this one from Happ Controls:

Is it possible to get this working somehow with Mame if it's without the coin mech? And why are these coin doors so expensive?

spacies · « **Reply #1 on:** February 10, 2008, 03:08:42 pm »

If you have one without a coin mech you could just add a button to the front.
GGG has these on their site.

As for price, it's Happ, everything is expensive.

Retro_SA · « **Reply #2 on:** February 10, 2008, 04:01:49 pm »

I want to use coins with it, not just buttons. Apart from Happ, where else can I get those? I bought the rest of the stuff from Ultimarc, but they don't have the ones I want.

DaveMMR · « **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2008, 04:15:24 pm »

You can try www.arcadeshop.com. I got my door from them for under $50. eBay is also a nice outlet if you don't mind buying one that needs a little TLC. And finally, check the B/S/T forum.

Jdurg · « **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2008, 04:35:22 pm »

Yeah. I just got one off of E-Bay for $29.99 with shipping included. It will require a re-painting, but even that is debateable.

mountain · « **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2008, 04:37:02 pm »

Peale is selling the coin mechs really cheap. These are from Happ too.

DeLuSioNal29 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 10, 2008, 04:47:34 pm »

Quote from: Retro_SA on February 10, 2008, 02:52:00 pm

I'm looking for a coin door like this one from Happ Controls:

Is it possible to get this working somehow with Mame if it's without the coin mech? And why are these coin doors so expensive?

I'm pretty sure the door is the expensive part. The mechs are relatively cheap as shown in the screen capture of Happ's site below.

~ DeLuSioNaL

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #7 on:** February 10, 2008, 05:02:41 pm »

None of those prices are for mechs, though. Happ charges about $18 for a basic US quarter mech.

They are available cheaper elsewhere if you look -- quite a while ago I bought 20 mechs (used, but all working and in good shape) for $25 from a member here.

DeLuSioNal29 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2008, 05:07:11 pm »

Last time I spoke with them, I remember them telling me that they offered a mech that takes both quarters and tokens. A hybrid, if you will.

~ D

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2008, 05:12:36 pm »

Yeah, they sell the Imonex mechs ... $29-38 per mech.

http://www.happcontrols.com/coindoors/42303600.htm.

I hadn't considered that the OP may have different needs with respect to coinage and may want to start by looking on eBay locally (or go for tokens).

DeLuSioNal29 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 10, 2008, 05:20:09 pm »

Yeah, I wanted mine to take both (haven't bought any yet), but Happs does not have any that fit my dimensions. :-( I will post my dimensions at a later date when I am ready to plunk down $300.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #11 on:** February 10, 2008, 05:37:24 pm »

There may be some useful info in this thread (I haven't read it in a while ... I just decided that all my machines would take Canadian quarters and that was that):

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=22251.0

Zobeid · « **Reply #12 on:** February 10, 2008, 05:43:11 pm »

This may be a dumb question, but. . . How do you change the little graphic in the reject button, where it typically says 25c, 50c, TOKEN, etc.? Is there some little insert you can put in for that? Or do you have to buy different buttons? (I guessing the former just because I've never seen the buttons for sale by themselves, anywhere.)

DeLuSioNal29 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2008, 06:05:38 pm »

Quote from: Zobeid on February 10, 2008, 05:43:11 pm

This may be a dumb question, but. . . How do you change the little graphic in the reject button, where it typically says 25c, 50c, TOKEN, etc.? Is there some little insert you can put in for that? Or do you have to buy different buttons? (I guessing the former just because I've never seen the buttons for sale by themselves, anywhere.)

They are definitely inserts. They are sold here and have the different inserts for sale as well:

Shorten Those Links!

Hope this helped.

~ DeLuSioNaL

bfauska · « **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2008, 07:38:53 pm »

"Those aren't the inserts you're looking for"

Seriously though, they're not. Those inserts at GGG are for the credit button that they sell. If you pull apart a coin door you could measure the insert and create a new one with some transparency film (office supply store) and a printer.

If you want to use a coin door without a mech You could rig up a switch to get hit by the passing coin, but it wouldn't allow you to be picky about what coins people use in the machine. A used mech is the easiest way to go. The BST section of the forum has several people selling them usually. You can probably find a door while you're looking too. The coin doors that people clean-up as part of their project are usually better than new looking when they are done so it's worth the time it may take to make an old one look new again.

The moral of the story is, buy a used door with used mechs and wire it up to your encoder just like any other button, you'll save money and have a functional way of inserting credits when gaming.

DeLuSioNal29 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 10, 2008, 09:08:27 pm »

Whoops!

I jumped to the conclusion about the credit buttons based on Zobeid's post:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=76345.msg796070#msg796070

So I assumed that the inserts were for those.

Zobeid, which credit buttons were you referring to?

~ DeLuSioNaL

Zobeid · « **Reply #16 on:** February 10, 2008, 11:57:51 pm »

I was referring to the coin-reject buttons on an actual, working coin door.

I was looking at the NovaGemCDR buttons earlier, but now have almost talked myself into getting a real coin door instead. . . and some tokens.

BTW, I was cleaning out an old desk today and found a couple of vintage tokens that I had in my pocket when I wandered out of some arcades, misty moons ago. One is from Aladdin's Castle and the other is marked, appropriately, YESTERDAY'S. That is nostalgia.

bfauska · « **Reply #17 on:** February 11, 2008, 12:13:58 am »

If you find a used door, Peale just posted a new thread in B/S/T for some token mechs.

Retro_SA · « **Reply #18 on:** February 11, 2008, 01:32:53 am »

Unfortunately I can't buy from Ebay or from someone on this forum. Most of these people want payment through PayPal and since I'm in South Africa, I can't use PayPal. Any other online shops for arcade parts apart from Happ, Ultimarc, Arcadeshop and GroovyGameGear?

Crowquill · « **Reply #19 on:** February 11, 2008, 02:18:13 am »

Retro_SA--Are there any places in South Africa that deal with arcade games? Someplace that might have some old parts laying around? The coin doors are expensive enough but shipping can be really high on these too as they're almost entirely metal.

I'm wondering too why you're trying to avoid coin mechs. The mechs are the part of the door that guides the coin between the slot and the switch that "coins up" the game. The mechs themselves are interchangeable between most coin doors and some can be modified to take almost any coin.

Zobeld--

Quote from: Zobeid on February 10, 2008, 05:43:11 pm

This may be a dumb question, but. . . How do you change the little graphic in the reject button, where it typically says 25c, 50c, TOKEN, etc.? Is there some little insert you can put in for that? Or do you have to buy different buttons? (I guessing the former just because I've never seen the buttons for sale by themselves, anywhere.)

Here's some pics of the disassembled plunger from a Happ over/under coin door. As you can see it's just a thin white piece of plastic with screen-printed artwork. It slides into a slot in the coin return plunger itself. There might be different variations of this coin door, but both this one (the factory door on my Neo-Geo cabinet) and the one on my Primal Rage cabinet are identical.

On the Coin Controls coin door on my MAME cab the front of the plunger snaps off and the insert just sandwiches between it and the main plunger itself.

Retro_SA · « **Reply #20 on:** February 11, 2008, 02:35:16 am »

Quote from: Crowquill on February 11, 2008, 02:18:13 am

Retro_SA--Are there any places in South Africa that deal with arcade games? Someplace that might have some old parts laying around? The coin doors are expensive enough but shipping can be really high on these too as they're almost entirely metal.

I'm wondering too why you're trying to avoid coin mechs. The mechs are the part of the door that guides the coin between the slot and the switch that "coins up" the game. The mechs themselves are interchangeable between most coin doors and some can be modified to take almost any coin.

The ones I could find either doesn't have the ones I want or they don't sell to the public. How will I know if the ones from Happ can be modified to take different coins?

Retro_SA · « **Reply #21 on:** February 13, 2008, 11:55:42 am »

Ok, so nowhere else where I can buy this type of coin door except for Happ???

Apart from private sellers, I can only pay with credit card, no PayPal or anything like that.

WunderCade · « **Reply #22 on:** February 13, 2008, 02:37:59 pm »

I know that Level42, and Darth Nuno who live in the EU have had fellow BYOACer's who were kind enough to go ahead and act as third party facilitators to "forward" items to them when companies won't ship Internationally. It worked brilliantly. That is one option you might consider. Let us know if we can help you out.

Retro_SA · « **Reply #23 on:** February 13, 2008, 02:54:50 pm »

Quote from: WunderCade on February 13, 2008, 02:37:59 pm

I know that Level42, and Darth Nuno who live in the EU have had fellow BYOACer's who were kind enough to go ahead and act as third party facilitators to "forward" items to them when companies won't ship Internationally. It worked brilliantly. That is one option you might consider. Let us know if we can help you out.

Thanks, but the problem isn't with the shipping, it's with the payment. We can't use something like PayPal in South Africa, so the only option I really have is payment with credit card. I just can't seem to find an online shop with the coin door I need, except for Happ. I actually wanted to order it just now from them, but they want your credit card details before you even have a final price on the parts (because they can't tell you how much shipping will be straight away). Which is a bit worrying. And I can't see why, especially since I bought the rest of my parts from Ultimarc without any problems. It's a pity Ultimarc doesn't have a wider variety of parts, their service is excellent.

Retro_SA · « **Reply #24 on:** May 10, 2008, 01:10:00 pm »

Ok, so I eventually bought this coin door from Happ and managed to modify it to take on of our local coins. Now how do I connect it to my minipac so that it will register a coin in Mame when I insert a coin?

I don't have any of those switches that you use with the push buttons left over, so it will have to be a diy solution. Anyone have any ideas?

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #25 on:** May 10, 2008, 01:59:50 pm »

Aren't there any switches on the coin door ?

Retro_SA · « **Reply #26 on:** May 10, 2008, 04:15:27 pm »

Nope.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #27 on:** May 10, 2008, 04:34:44 pm »

Ugh ... let me see what I have downstairs ... no point in placing a big overseas order if all you are missing is a couple of switches. If I don't post back tommorrow, PM me as a reminder.

Retro_SA · « **Reply #28 on:** May 11, 2008, 08:35:27 am »

Wow thanks, but I don't need them anymore. Turns out the coin door does indeed have the switches on them, dunno how I missed that before. Hooked it up to the minipac and it works perfectly!

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #29 on:** May 11, 2008, 08:46:04 am »

Cool -- you've been through enough trouble getting stuff that I figured you were due for a break ...

Retro_SA · « **Reply #30 on:** May 11, 2008, 12:02:37 pm »

Haha, tell me about it.

I don't even want to think about how much this project has cost me so far.

Played games on it for the first time today, turned out quite well if I may say so myself.

Just a couple of small things thats left to do, then I'll post my whole project with pics etc.


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