Author Topic: I need your guys help. Is this a scam because I am pretty worried. (Read 6799 times)

JonnyBoy · « **on:** October 14, 2005, 12:09:13 pm »

Okay guys, I thought I sold my mp3 player on craigslist and the guy said he wants to pay with a money gram. I was under the impression that the transaction occured by the FedEx guy giving me the money and I give the item after I have the money in my hands. But now I am recieving e-mails about the transaction and some of them ended up in my spam mailbox. I have no idea what's happening and really need some information here. Firstly I recieved this email from the guy who I "sold" it to.

_______________________________________________

Hello,
this is the FedEx shipping label and the invoice which you will print out and paste on the package.You will print out 3copies of the label and invoice and you will paste one label and one invoice on the package,then you will drop the remaining copies inside the package item.
Fedex will be coming by 1-3pm today to pick up the item.
Get back to me as soon as possible.
Thanks.

Pro Forma Invoice

ULTIMATE DESTINATION
Nigeria    NO. OF PKGS.
1
DATE OF EXPORTATION
14OCT05    SHIPPING LABEL NO.
7925 5363 3819    CURRENCY
US Dollars
SHIPPER/EXPORTER
Jonathan Panichella
8033201445
Jonathan Panichella
237 Limberline Drive

Greensburg, PA 15601
United States
Shipper's Ref:    CONSIGNEE
DAVID MAYORWA
8033201445
CLAPPER JIMSON
NO1 ASHIMOLOWO STREET VIA 5TH
AVENUE ABESAN ESTATE,IPAJA
LAGOS, 23401
Nigeria
Recipient Customs Tax ID:    IMPORTER
Same as Consignee

United States Importer Customs Tax ID:
COUNTRY
OF MFR.    DESCRIPTION OF GOODS
Packaging type:(Your Packaging)    WEIGHT
(LBS)    QTY    UNIT
VALUE    COMMODITY
VALUE
UNITED STATES    PERSONAL USE

   18.00    1
pieces    20.00    20.00
FREIGHT    0.00
INSURANCE    0.00
ADDITIONAL CHARGES    0.00
PURPOSE
Gift         TOTAL
18.00         TOTAL
CUSTOMS
VALUE
20.00
These commodities, technology, or software were exported from the United States in accordance with the Export Administration regulations. Diversion contrary to U.S. Law prohibited.

   Terms of Sale:
Free Carrier(FCA/FOB) TOTAL INVOICE VALUE
20.00

SIGNATURE OF SHIPPER/EXPORTER:

I declare that all the information contained in this invoice is true and correct.

____________________________________________________
Jonathan Panichella Date:14OCT05



1.
   Print 4 copies of this document.

2.


Sign and insert 3 copies into the shipping pouch with the label.

__________________________________________

It came with the following picture.

JonnyBoy · « **Reply #1 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:10:31 pm »

This came from FedEx:

This email is to confirm that a FedEx pickup has been scheduled through fedex.com for the date and location indicated below. We look forward to serving you and thank you for shipping with FedEx.

Confirmation Number: CVAA00068
Contact name: Jonathan Panichella
Address: 237 Limberline Drive
City: Greensburg
State: PA
ZIP code: 15601
Country: United States
Phone number: 8033201445
Number of packages: 1
Pickup Date: 14 Oct 2005

This is a post only mailing - please do not reply to this message.

JonnyBoy · « **Reply #2 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:11:31 pm »

Dear Jonathan Panichella,
MoneyGram is hereby congratulating you and at the same time informing you that the MoneyGram

JonnyBoy · « **Reply #3 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:12:39 pm »

After sending the buyer a concerned e-mail he sent me this, very quickly after I sent it.

Dear Jonathan,
you should not worry about for the money gram is sending your money to you as soon as they are sure that the shipping is confirmed,that is why you will have to make sure you send the tracking # to them as soon as the fedex people come to pick it up.
You should read again the confirmation approval they sent to you.You will recieve your money because i have been using the system for the past 5years now.
Thanks for your verification.
Regards.

and this one

Dear Jonathan,
there is no any other way i know i can tell you again since you i have told you that the system is what i have been using and it is legit .
You will have to believe me .
Thanks.

Sephroth57 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:15:23 pm »

dude thats totally a scam, dont do it

Stingray · « **Reply #5 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:15:58 pm »

Surely you don't actually need to have someone tell you that this is a scam do you? If you do, let me be the first. It's a scam.

edit:seph beat me to it, so allow me to be the second.

-S

Bones · « **Reply #6 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:18:02 pm »

Quote from: Sephroth57 on October 14, 2005, 12:15:23 pm

dude thats totally a scam, dont do it

Quote from: Stingray on October 14, 2005, 12:15:58 pm

Surely you don't actually need to have someone tell you that this is a scam do you? If you do, let me be the first. It's a scam.

edit:seph beat me to it, so allow me to be the second.

-S

I would like you to take a different approach as I have nothing to lose and am curious.

ChadTower · « **Reply #7 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:18:27 pm »

Scam.

JonnyBoy · « **Reply #8 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:19:04 pm »

Are you absolutely positive?

Sephroth57 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:23:14 pm »

are you absolutely retarded? lol, you never heard of a nigerian scam. it even says NIGERIA right in the email man

JonnyBoy · « **Reply #10 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:24:39 pm »

Well thanks.

In that case...anybody interested in buying a like new mp3 player?

mr.Curmudgeon · « **Reply #11 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:26:44 pm »

Quote from: Sephroth57 on October 14, 2005, 12:23:14 pm

lol, you never heard of a nigerian scam. it even says NIGERIA right in the email man

ULTIMATE DESTINATION
Nigeria

Well....look at that. It really does. lol.

mrC

Clonedsheep · « **Reply #12 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:27:02 pm »

I work in computer parts sales and anything with LAGOS, Nigeria I avoid now days. I have been sent 4 bad checks from there and numerous emails. The checks are so bad looking I don't know how the Pickup guys hold a straight face. I have been to fake websites and some of them look very good. Stay away.

mr.Curmudgeon · « **Reply #13 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:28:58 pm »

Like Chad said...it's a simple rule: NEVER SEND AN ITEM BEFORE YOU RECEIVE PAYMENT.

The fact that people even need to be told this makes me want to start working a scam myself. I could use the money.

mrC

JonnyBoy · « **Reply #14 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:30:25 pm »

Well, you know, I just really want this damn thing to sell. I don't know, my head isn't on straight, I was under the impression that I recieve payment and exchange the unit at the same time.

Stingray · « **Reply #15 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:32:23 pm »

Quote from: JonnyBoy on October 14, 2005, 12:30:25 pm

Well, you know, I just really want this damn thing to sell. I don't know, my head isn't on straight, I was under the impression that I recieve payment and exchange the unit at the same time.

If you consider a bad check to be payment then you could be correct.

Simply put, if you send anything to Nigeria, you deserve to be ripped off.

-S

AC. · « **Reply #16 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:45:35 pm »

FAKE! It is a SCAM! Don't ever deal with someone from Nigeria. Plus, the payment instructions are too confusing. It is simple, the buyer pays and it is confirmed, then you ship. Nigeria scams are always rushing you, trying to get you to hurry up. Also, don't respond to them at all anymore. They are organized crime and you don't want them having any more of your info.

See for more information:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/uclickcomics/20051014/cx_ft_uc/ft20051014

mr.Curmudgeon · « **Reply #17 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:55:28 pm »

Well, you deserve credit for asking. Can't fault you for that as it was the smart thing to do. Even though you're going to get picked on.

mrC

JonnyBoy · « **Reply #18 on:** October 14, 2005, 12:59:05 pm »

eh, ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- happens.

ChadTower · « **Reply #19 on:** October 14, 2005, 02:10:05 pm »

Quote from: mr.Curmudgeon on October 14, 2005, 12:28:58 pm

Like Chad said...it's a simple rule: NEVER SEND AN ITEM BEFORE YOU RECEIVE PAYMENT.

The fact that people even need to be told this makes me want to start working a scam myself. I could use the money.

Oddly enough, there are highly respected and well known arcade parts vendors that do cross ship without having received payment first. Always surprises me.

Zakk · « **Reply #20 on:** October 14, 2005, 02:38:49 pm »

Quote from: JonnyBoy on October 14, 2005, 12:30:25 pm

Well, you know, I just really want this damn thing to sell. I don't know, my head isn't on straight, I was under the impression that I recieve payment and exchange the unit at the same time.

I put a pinball machine up on Mr pinball, and I had, and I kid you not, 19 e-mails like that. They want to pay, overpay, underpay, whatever, and they've already sent a truck to your house! Jeez. Look up LADS FROM LAGOS on the net, as you do see lagos in the e-mails, which was kind of pointed out. Scam-o-rama is the site I believe, it's hilarious to read, if you have never done so.

E-mail the guy back and tell him to stuff it up his daisies. (Although I do think you have already decided to see this as a scam) (?)

Stingray · « **Reply #21 on:** October 14, 2005, 02:46:36 pm »

Quote from: Zakk on October 14, 2005, 02:38:49 pm

I put a pinball machine up on Mr pinball, and I had, and I kid you not, 19 e-mails like that. They want to pay, overpay, underpay, whatever, and they've already sent a truck to your house!

I can do better than that. I listed a Triumph Spitfire parts car that I had already taken all the parts I wanted off of for $50 OBO. I had one of these guys offer me $5k, and they wanted to send a shipper. I almost did it just to get rid of the car and have a bad check to hang on the wall, but in the end I decided that I really didn't want those guys to have my address.

-S

markrvp · « **Reply #22 on:** October 14, 2005, 02:49:41 pm »

JonnyBoy:

It's definitely a scam, but I'll buy your mp3 player.

missioncontrol · « **Reply #23 on:** October 14, 2005, 02:51:34 pm »

Quote from: Stingray on October 14, 2005, 02:46:36 pm

I can do better than that. I listed a Triumph Spitfire parts car that I had already taken all the parts I wanted off of for $50 OBO. I had one of these guys offer me $5k, and they wanted to send a shipper. I almost did it just to get rid of the car and have a bad check to hang on the wall, but in the end I decided that I really didn't want those guys to have my address.

-S

should have towed it somewhere else and gave them that address

RayB · « **Reply #24 on:** October 14, 2005, 03:00:59 pm »

Obviously a scam. They probably "own" moneygram.
Though you have to admit this one's a LITTLE more sophisticated than the idiotic "We want you to help us move 15 million dollars and you will get 10%!!"

And don't think it's just the Nigerians. You can get scammed like this by good old Americans too. Friend of mine lost about $800 trying to buy a laptop in the late 90's. Similar MO: Guy was in a big hurry because he was moving within a few days. He insisted on payment by Western Union. He told her they had a password system and that they wouldn't release the money to him until she called and confirmed that the item arrived. To make my friend feel comfortable with the deal, he actually gave a phone # and she called him. In the end though it was either a disposable or stolen cell phone. Couldn't be traced to anyone.

rampy · « **Reply #25 on:** October 14, 2005, 03:04:34 pm »

obligatory p-p-p-p-powerbook

Send him something else in the fed ex box

missioncontrol · « **Reply #26 on:** October 14, 2005, 03:07:12 pm »

Quote from: rampy on October 14, 2005, 03:04:34 pm

obligatory p-p-p-p-powerbook

Send him something else in the fed ex box

send them a big ol' turd

Stingray · « **Reply #27 on:** October 14, 2005, 03:13:58 pm »

Surely with the engineering skills on this board we could put together a great m-m-m-m-m-mp3 player.

-S

NoOne=NBA= · « **Reply #28 on:** October 14, 2005, 04:30:47 pm »

Quote from: JonnyBoy on October 14, 2005, 12:59:05 pm

eh, ---auto-censored--- happens.

I feel obliged to insert that ---manually-censored--- doesn't just happen.

***Holes MAKE ---manually-censored--- happen.

Setabs · « **Reply #29 on:** October 14, 2005, 05:17:37 pm »

can't you contact craigs list or fbi for mail fraud? You could probably call you local fbi office to have them check into the guys name and address to see if its been used in previous scams.

AceTKK · « **Reply #30 on:** October 14, 2005, 06:36:12 pm »

I'm pretty sure Craigslist has a disclaimer at the top of their site warning people about these kinds of scams.

-Ace-

DrewKaree · « **Reply #31 on:** October 14, 2005, 11:18:43 pm »

Quote from: Stingray on October 14, 2005, 03:13:58 pm

Surely with the engineering skills on this board we could put together a great m-m-m-m-m-mp3 player.

-S

Does it have to play all three at the same time, or can it play the "m", the "p" and the "3" separately?

C'mon....can we please help out on this one?

Effayy · « **Reply #32 on:** October 14, 2005, 11:42:12 pm »

Quote from: DrewKaree on October 14, 2005, 11:18:43 pm

Quote from: Stingray on October 14, 2005, 03:13:58 pm
Surely with the engineering skills on this board we could put together a great m-m-m-m-m-mp3 player.

-S

Does it have to play all three at the same time, or can it play the "m", the "p" and the "3" separately?

C'mon....can we please help out on this one?

Ok, in all seriousness... Let's help out on that. I would enjoy nothing more than the satisfaction of knowing a scammer just got scammed.

Buy a really cheap tiny FM radio from The Dollar Store, and snazzy it up somehow.

- FA

SteveJ34 · « **Reply #33 on:** October 15, 2005, 01:06:23 am »

Quote from: Effayy on October 14, 2005, 11:42:12 pm

Ok, in all seriousness... Let's help out on that. I would enjoy nothing more than the satisfaction of knowing a scammer just got scammed.

Buy a really cheap tiny FM radio from The Dollar Store, and snazzy it up somehow.

- FA

An old cassette tape recorder with a tape with a self recorded song entitled "M P 3"....

....or make it easy on ourself, go outside and find a couple of bricks, into the garage to find some duct tape, wrapem' together, place in box, and ship.

TalkingOctopus · « **Reply #34 on:** October 15, 2005, 01:10:37 am »

I think a good rule is if you have to ask the question: "Is this a scam?" then it probably is...

cdbrown · « **Reply #35 on:** October 15, 2005, 05:03:37 am »

Money Gram and Nigeria in Google brings up some links about hoax's - ebay tops the list

http://forums.ebay.com.sg/thread.jspa?threadID=300001076&tstart=0&mod=1129251802941

Harry Potter · « **Reply #36 on:** October 15, 2005, 05:22:24 am »

or alternatively, visit www.419eater.com

JonnyBoy · « **Reply #37 on:** October 15, 2005, 01:17:25 pm »

I just recieved one from Holly Dorothy (heh) about buying it for her friend in Africa...

Oddly enough, she wants to pay with a money order or traveller's check?

Samstag · « **Reply #38 on:** October 15, 2005, 02:52:20 pm »

Quote from: JonnyBoy on October 15, 2005, 01:17:25 pm

I just recieved one from Holly Dorothy (heh) about buying it for her friend in Africa...

Oddly enough, she wants to pay with a money order or traveller's check?

That one is definitely legitimate, since it's coming from a friend of a Nigerian rather than an actual Nigerian. Reel her in before she finds a better deal!

JonnyBoy · « **Reply #39 on:** October 15, 2005, 06:23:27 pm »

Getta load o' this.... I got this new guy....Toyin Gray (hehe) that is going to give me 400 instead of 300! Wow, life is good...


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