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Alternative to welding for metal joystick studs?
« on: December 08, 2004, 12:04:39 pm »
I've got a hacked up metal cp.  I have purchased another piece of metal which I will be affixing to the top to create my new control panel surface.  I would like to add threaded studs (is that what they're called?) to the underside to hold the joysticks. 

Do I have to get it welded, or is there some alternative?

If you know of alternatives, then photos would be nice.

Thanks...

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Re: Alternative to welding for metal joystick studs?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2004, 12:08:11 pm »
You might want to try JB Weld: http://jbweld.net/index.php

Its a "cold weld" product, i.e. an adhesive for metals.
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Re: Alternative to welding for metal joystick studs?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2004, 12:39:56 pm »
If you don't have access to a welder, JB Weld will probably do the trick. That stuff is hard as nails after it fully cures. It's always a good idea to rough up both surface to get a good bond.

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Re: Alternative to welding for metal joystick studs?
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2004, 02:07:54 pm »
hmmm...I personally cant see JBWeld holding up to it.  Its some good stuff but adhereing to a flat surface like that with such a small contact area I just dont see it being very strong.  Not to mention trying to figure out how to hold all the studs in place while the stuff drys.  I would try a test, JBWeld a bolt to a spare piece of metal or the old CP, Once it cures bang on it a bit and see if it doesnt pop off.  I could be wrong on this one, and the stuff does hold good, its just the relatively small contact area and the fact that they will be subjected to side forces that makes me dubious.

You didnt say where you are located, perhaps someone here is near you with some welding skills (ie, if you are in NJ PM me and I can weld it for you)

You could braze it also which is somewhere between soldering and welding on the strength scale, but again you would need someone who could do it.  Check out local radiator shops, they usually have brazing equipment and might do it cheap.

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Re: Alternative to welding for metal joystick studs?
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2004, 02:25:11 pm »
You didnt say where you are located, perhaps someone here is near you with some welding skills (ie, if you are in NJ PM me and I can weld it for you)

Where in Jersey are you???  Northern?

(I'm in toronto, but I'm going to Jersey for a week at the end of the month.)

If anybody is feeling generous with their welding skills in Toronto... let me know.

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Re: Alternative to welding for metal joystick studs?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2004, 02:35:30 pm »
hmmm...I personally cant see JBWeld holding up to it.

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Re: Alternative to welding for metal joystick studs?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2004, 04:22:23 pm »
hmmm...I personally cant see JBWeld holding up to it. 

I used JB Weld on an engine crack on my 87 Ford Escort and drove it for another two years.

Yep, Ive used it in similar applications but in this scenario its a different type of stress being put on it.   Im not an engineer so I cant explain it very well and I may be completely mistaken.  Its a cheap theory to test, if it holds great!  Im just not so sure it will stand up to it.

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Re: Alternative to welding for metal joystick studs?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2004, 04:23:14 pm »
You didnt say where you are located, perhaps someone here is near you with some welding skills (ie, if you are in NJ PM me and I can weld it for you)

Where in Jersey are you???  Northern?

(I'm in toronto, but I'm going to Jersey for a week at the end of the month.)

If anybody is feeling generous with their welding skills in Toronto... let me know.

sorry, southern, right outside Philadelphia, Pa  but if you want to scoot down Id be happy to help

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Re: Alternative to welding for metal joystick studs?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2004, 04:28:55 pm »

sorry, southern, right outside Philadelphia, Pa  but if you want to scoot down Id be happy to help

Yea... I think I'll pass...  but thanks for the offer.


One option is to attach the pices of metal together, then drill a hile where the bolt is supposed to go.  Use a tap to make threads (it would only get a couple or a few in) and then screw the bolt on.  Then grind off the bolt head and secure the underside using the JB Weld.  That would give it a little more strength when bangint the joystick.

Either that, or make a sign that says "please be gentle with the arcade"   ;D

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Re: Alternative to welding for metal joystick studs?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2004, 04:37:07 pm »


Yea... I think I'll pass...  but thanks for the offer.


One option is to attach the pices of metal together, then drill a hile where the bolt is supposed to go.  Use a tap to make threads (it would only get a couple or a few in) and then screw the bolt on.  Then grind off the bolt head and secure the underside using the JB Weld.  That would give it a little more strength when bangint the joystick.

Either that, or make a sign that says "please be gentle with the arcade"   ;D

Now actually thats not such a bad idea, it keeps the jbweld from bearing the full force of shear loads and the 2 combined should provide decent strength.  The question now is, is your metal thick enough to tap a few threads in?

Somehow methinks noone will pay attention to the sign when deep into their favorite game ;D

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Re: Alternative to welding for metal joystick studs?
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2004, 05:43:43 pm »
My Dynamo cab's panel uses pressed in studs. McMaster-Carr sells them.

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Re: Alternative to welding for metal joystick studs?
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2004, 08:24:23 pm »
My Dynamo cab's panel uses pressed in studs. McMaster-Carr sells them.

Do you have a pic?