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AMD's Ryzen and MAME compiling?
« on: June 20, 2017, 07:00:02 pm »
So I'm eyeing the Ryzen 7 for my editing workstation upgrade and it just dawned on me how MAME might run on it.

Anyone try it yet?  When compiling, do you still select AMD optimization or is the Ryzen architecture different?  I'm curious how the cheaper Ryzen chips will affect future MAME builds.

Thoughts?

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Re: AMD's Ryzen and MAME compiling?
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2017, 09:23:27 am »
Does MAME use multi-core CPU's now?
Price-wise a $300 ryzen cpu vs a $300 i5 cpu = i5 is slightly faster in single core/threaded processes but ryzen with 8 cores and 16 threads blows it away in multi-core apps.

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Re: AMD's Ryzen and MAME compiling?
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2017, 10:01:57 am »
Does MAME use multi-core CPU's now?
Price-wise a $300 ryzen cpu vs a $300 i5 cpu = i5 is slightly faster in single core/threaded processes but ryzen with 8 cores and 16 threads blows it away in multi-core apps.

I cannot wait to get one of those ryzen CPUs and a GTX 1080 with 64gb of memory and a 60gb SSD so I can play Donkey Kong at 60FPS.

Good times ahead.  :cheers:
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Re: AMD's Ryzen and MAME compiling?
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2017, 06:52:20 pm »
Does MAME use multi-core CPU's now?
Price-wise a $300 ryzen cpu vs a $300 i5 cpu = i5 is slightly faster in single core/threaded processes but ryzen with 8 cores and 16 threads blows it away in multi-core apps.
People tend to forget that nowadays people are running more than just MAME.
There are additional processes in the background:  (Which stay in the background when MAME launches)
-  Front Ends (If running something like Hyperspin you need a decent processor)
-  Drive mounting software (for emulators that have ISO images mounted for CD or DVD games)
-  AHK scripts running to re-map controls (YMMV)

The point is - AMD has been making cheaper processors than Intel for ages (I use a Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition in my existing MAME cab and it runs great).  However, this is the first time that AMD has put forth a product that is not only cheaper by just as fast as Intel (great bang for your buck).  The last time I remember this happening was in the 486 days when AMD had the 486DX-40 (40 mHz was the fastest at the time).

Anyway can't wait to see cheaper PC builds for MAME cabinets in the future.

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Re: AMD's Ryzen and MAME compiling?
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2017, 07:29:32 pm »
Does MAME use multi-core CPU's now?
Price-wise a $300 ryzen cpu vs a $300 i5 cpu = i5 is slightly faster in single core/threaded processes but ryzen with 8 cores and 16 threads blows it away in multi-core apps.
People tend to forget that nowadays people are running more than just MAME.
There are additional processes in the background:  (Which stay in the background when MAME launches)
-  Front Ends (If running something like Hyperspin you need a decent processor)
-  Drive mounting software (for emulators that have ISO images mounted for CD or DVD games)
-  AHK scripts running to re-map controls (YMMV)

The point is - AMD has been making cheaper processors than Intel for ages (I use a Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition in my existing MAME cab and it runs great).  However, this is the first time that AMD has put forth a product that is not only cheaper by just as fast as Intel (great bang for your buck).  The last time I remember this happening was in the 486 days when AMD had the 486DX-40 (40 mHz was the fastest at the time).

Anyway can't wait to see cheaper PC builds for MAME cabinets in the future.

DeL

The Athlon days were good too. I was too pissed about getting screwed with a K6, I've never went back to AMD.

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Re: AMD's Ryzen and MAME compiling?
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2017, 07:54:42 pm »
Does MAME use multi-core CPU's now?
Price-wise a $300 ryzen cpu vs a $300 i5 cpu = i5 is slightly faster in single core/threaded processes but ryzen with 8 cores and 16 threads blows it away in multi-core apps.
People tend to forget that nowadays people are running more than just MAME.
There are additional processes in the background:  (Which stay in the background when MAME launches)
-  Front Ends (If running something like Hyperspin you need a decent processor)
-  Drive mounting software (for emulators that have ISO images mounted for CD or DVD games)
-  AHK scripts running to re-map controls (YMMV)

The point is - AMD has been making cheaper processors than Intel for ages (I use a Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition in my existing MAME cab and it runs great).  However, this is the first time that AMD has put forth a product that is not only cheaper by just as fast as Intel (great bang for your buck).  The last time I remember this happening was in the 486 days when AMD had the 486DX-40 (40 mHz was the fastest at the time).

Anyway can't wait to see cheaper PC builds for MAME cabinets in the future.

DeL

The Athlon days were good too. I was too pissed about getting screwed with a K6, I've never went back to AMD.

The K6 was a decent chip.. Now if you want to talk about ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- chips... the Cyrix 6x86 (M1) took the cake.


Oh and that AMD 486 was just more cache and like the Cyrix DLC the 486DX that AMD brought out was a glorified suped up 386 with some changes not to get sued by Intel.  The K6 ran Sparcade pretty quickly.  I had that as my main PC until the P50 dropped in price.  I cannot remember if it ran Donkey Kong, but I had a Crazy Kong mainboard hooked to a 1902a monitor so it wasn't so bad. 
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Re: AMD's Ryzen and MAME compiling?
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2017, 10:12:25 pm »
Does MAME use multi-core CPU's now?
Price-wise a $300 ryzen cpu vs a $300 i5 cpu = i5 is slightly faster in single core/threaded processes but ryzen with 8 cores and 16 threads blows it away in multi-core apps.
People tend to forget that nowadays people are running more than just MAME.
There are additional processes in the background:  (Which stay in the background when MAME launches)
-  Front Ends (If running something like Hyperspin you need a decent processor)
-  Drive mounting software (for emulators that have ISO images mounted for CD or DVD games)
-  AHK scripts running to re-map controls (YMMV)

The point is - AMD has been making cheaper processors than Intel for ages (I use a Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition in my existing MAME cab and it runs great).  However, this is the first time that AMD has put forth a product that is not only cheaper by just as fast as Intel (great bang for your buck).  The last time I remember this happening was in the 486 days when AMD had the 486DX-40 (40 mHz was the fastest at the time).

Anyway can't wait to see cheaper PC builds for MAME cabinets in the future.

DeL

That is all correct but..........realistically speaking, unless it's for a specific game with a recent fix you really don't need the latest mame with a new CPU to play most games.
but, I can run attractmode and mame and glsl on a core2duo or x2 regor with a decent gpu with no problems using advmame for instance. Or an RPI3. :)

3d games however, if you really want to play them badly then yeah, gonna need a powerful recent cpu so I agree might as well go with AMD since it's cheaper.