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Author Topic: Robotron on 0145u2 is brilliant.  (Read 8694 times)

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Re: Robotron on 0145u2 is brilliant.
« Reply #40 on: May 11, 2012, 02:11:07 am »
Woww. Plays....nicely. So smooth, and collision detection was very tight - not to mention none of that 'swoosh' ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---. A game on this new Robo, default settings (difficulty 5).
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Re: Robotron on 0145u2 is brilliant.
« Reply #41 on: May 11, 2012, 03:13:47 pm »
An explanation of that latest patch fix is here- http://www.robotron2084guidebook.com/?page_id=30

I've adjusted the clock out just a bit by multiplying it by 1.175 and think it is really close to my real robotron machine.

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« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2012, 12:27:52 am »
Is the patched rom set needed, too?
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« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2012, 02:39:16 pm »
It isn't needed but it's a luxury if you install it.
There is no change in the gameplay, it's still the same blue rom code.

I haven't had a "reset" during gameplay since I got the patched set running.
Sooooo nice.

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« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2012, 05:10:24 pm »
Yeah, I remembered the new set is only for the enforcer bug. I haven't decided whether I want to do that....

Broke a million last night on new Robo.
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« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2012, 11:28:23 pm »
What stage are you reaching to get 1 million?  wave 40?  That's pretty good work.

Check out some of the gameplay tips on www.robotron2084guidebook.com and let me know if they help with your progress or if you have any suggestions I may have overlooked.  :)

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« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2012, 11:16:50 pm »
I actually did better. (Although I guess I wasn't doing that well, considering I apparently lost at least thirteen dudes in the last 170 thousand....)
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« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2012, 10:14:54 am »
nice.
Here is the INP for a 17 million game in wolfMAME- done by Calz on KLOV
think you'll find some useful tips by seeing some of it
enjoy

http://www.robotron2084guidebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Robotron-wolfMAME106-WR.zip

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« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2012, 04:27:08 am »
Here is the INP for a 17 million game in wolfMAME- done by Calz on KLOV
think you'll find some useful tips by seeing some of it
enjoy

Hmmmmmm.  I watched it up past a million (where he almost didn't make it...). So many times, I saw the death coming. Many of those times, I was about to move differently, or would've gone a totally different way. I saw some swift movements amidst that, but I didn't see any particularly universal strategy.

Maybe you could summarise for me what it was?
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« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2012, 05:08:38 am »
Well, maybe I learned some things. In particular, move less, sometimes actually waiting. Hah hah hah...it slowed down so much, I had to notice it, and then I was all 'OH, strategy time!'

Here's a decent game. I think I started getting tired...

Of course, they cheated several times. But they cheated Calz a few times, too. That's what I love about new Robo. It doesn't cheat you.
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« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2012, 07:43:58 am »
I have the game summarized per enemy on my site here- http://www.robotron2084guidebook.com/?page_id=11
I break it down into strengths/weaknesses of each enemy, then go into more detail, then discuss it in relation to a wave walkthrough.

I have also discussed how to overcome plateaus of gameplay here- http://www.robotron2084guidebook.com/?page_id=236
Reflexes are defense, strategy is offense. People get to thinking the faster they react the better they'll do which becomes false at the waves after 22.
Similar to chess, you are doing great offensively, then quickly put in a defensive situation, and the trick is to figure out how to regain the offense.  Same thing as Ultimate fighting and boxing, too.  (probably why us adult males enjoy robotron because it sparks that primitive instinct about fighting)

If you watch his game around 6.5million. you'll see redemption and heart at it's finest. he gets down to 0 men several times at the start of really hard waves. he pulls off a miracle. then he gets back into that mental zone and he's back to speed. crazy crazy crazy action. i've never had a game like that.

For those reading and confused about how to install mame 0145u8 I have written an exact step by step for how to do it- http://www.robotron2084guidebook.com/?page_id=509

Over at CAG, Matt H who is a master level player tried o145u8 and feels the emulation is spot on now.
So "real robotron" is available to everyone on the planet who owns a computer now. hurray!
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