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Re: Avatar - The Movie
« Reply #160 on: January 11, 2010, 09:45:50 am »
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Re: Avatar - The Movie
« Reply #161 on: January 11, 2010, 09:51:00 am »
Ray, thats impossible.  Imax has 4times the resolution and your sitting
closer.

 Your Imax theater must have some issues.  Maybe the thing was out
of focus.   Ask for your money back, and demand they fix the problem.

 The Imax here, is crystal clear, and blows the reald screen next to it
away in detail and depth. (The 2 theaters here are owned by the same
company, and sit side by side)



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Re: Avatar - The Movie
« Reply #162 on: January 11, 2010, 11:12:19 am »
So, you said it was impossible, then went on to explain how it would be possible.

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Re: Avatar - The Movie
« Reply #163 on: January 11, 2010, 01:04:56 pm »
LMAO . . . Apparently S-a-ndra Bu-ll-ock is so bad that her name has to be autocensored.

I've got the censor turned off...what does it say otherwise?

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Re: Avatar - The Movie
« Reply #164 on: January 11, 2010, 01:06:34 pm »
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Re: Avatar - The Movie
« Reply #165 on: January 11, 2010, 01:12:40 pm »
Ray, thats impossible.  Imax has 4times the resolution and your sitting
closer.

 Your Imax theater must have some issues.  Maybe the thing was out
of focus.   Ask for your money back, and demand they fix the problem.

 The Imax here, is crystal clear, and blows the reald screen next to it
away in detail and depth. (The 2 theaters here are owned by the same
company, and sit side by side)
It still has a grainy film look, cuz... its film.

And it's stretched to fit a larger screen.

If the movie wasn't rendered to Imax resolution, then guess what?

Also, Imax "HD" runs at 48 fps, which halved to display alternating frames (one for each eye) makes it 24 fps like a standard film. RealD runs at a much higher frame rate.

Last point, RealD via digital projection uses highly reflective screens (much more reflective than standard movie screens). Imax's screen is transparent to allow the sound through from speakers behind the screen (you can see this when they run the little Imax tech demo before every screening). The result was a darker picture than when I saw it in RealD.


Unless you've watched the same movie in both formats, you have no point of reference to be defending one over the other. I don't know why you feel inclined to automatically defend 17+ year old technology. (Hit up the Wiki, and read the part called "Digital Backlash")

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Re: Avatar - The Movie
« Reply #166 on: January 11, 2010, 03:39:55 pm »
Ray, thats impossible.  Imax has 4times the resolution and your sitting
closer.

 Your Imax theater must have some issues.  Maybe the thing was out
of focus.   Ask for your money back, and demand they fix the problem.

 The Imax here, is crystal clear, and blows the reald screen next to it
away in detail and depth. (The 2 theaters here are owned by the same
company, and sit side by side)
It still has a grainy film look, cuz... its film.

And it's stretched to fit a larger screen.

If the movie wasn't rendered to Imax resolution, then guess what?

Also, Imax "HD" runs at 48 fps, which halved to display alternating frames (one for each eye) makes it 24 fps like a standard film. RealD runs at a much higher frame rate.

Last point, RealD via digital projection uses highly reflective screens (much more reflective than standard movie screens). Imax's screen is transparent to allow the sound through from speakers behind the screen (you can see this when they run the little Imax tech demo before every screening). The result was a darker picture than when I saw it in RealD.


Unless you've watched the same movie in both formats, you have no point of reference to be defending one over the other. I don't know why you feel inclined to automatically defend 17+ year old technology. (Hit up the Wiki, and read the part called "Digital Backlash")



All of the RealD screens in my area are acoustically transparent too. If you can, go up and look closely at the screen material next time you are there. I almost guarantee it will be full of tiny holes just like the IMAX material.

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« Reply #167 on: January 11, 2010, 06:07:11 pm »
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It still has a grainy film look, cuz... its film.

 I did not see any grain at all. Everything was razor sharp.

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And it's stretched to fit a larger screen.

  I believe this film was dumped to imax film in full resolution.
No stretching.  This means, the typical 2d release has Less detail, as
its being compressed.  (or details left out by dumping a digitally zoomed version)

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If the movie wasn't rendered to Imax resolution, then guess what?

 If this was some ow budget hack job movie, then maybe so.  But Id be pretty certain that a movie on this scale wouldnt cut corners like that.

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Also, Imax "HD" runs at 48 fps, which halved to display alternating frames (one for each eye) makes it 24 fps like a standard film. RealD runs at a much higher frame rate.

 As far as Wiki states, the HD version was limited to non-existant.
Imax for almost any theater is running at 24fps.  However, I believe
they use 2 cameras running at once, thus both eyes are getting
24fps.

 RealD may show at higher frame rates... BUT,  they simply repeat the
same frames multiple times.  This is meant to try to help reduce flicker.
The movie itself is no different.  No additional frames of animation frames.


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Unless you've watched the same movie in both formats, you have no point of reference to be defending one over the other. I don't know why you feel inclined to automatically defend 17+ year old technology. (Hit up the Wiki, and read the part called "Digital Backlash")


 Im not so sure you real and fully understood all the details of the
Backlash.

 1) Analog Imax film is over 4x the resolution of typical film.   Im not
sure how that compares to digital... but if its not the same, it might even
be greater.

 2) Digital Imax projectors, are what people are objecting too:  Because
the digital projection is done with lower resolution than by what is seen
with true Imax FILM.

 
 I guess its possible that I saw a True film Imax showing, rather than
a digital version.  Ill have to check to see what they are doing over there
out of curiosity.

 I will repeat, that I Have seen a RealD movie.  "Coraline 3D", and while
it was good... it did not compare to the Imax that is next door to it.
Not by miles.  In fact, I think the realD was darker than the Imax picture.

 Anyways, It would be interesting to see whats happening here,
and how the experience is so vastly different.

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Re: Avatar - The Movie
« Reply #168 on: January 12, 2010, 02:22:35 pm »
Coraline was hand-animated you meecrob! Can you imagine hand-animating something at 60 fps? It would take decades. So they did it at traditional animation frame rates. It's gonna look a bit choppy no matter what the projector is capable of.

I saw AVATAR in RealD. And AVATAR in Imax 3D.  RealD looked better. 'nuff said.
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Re: Avatar - The Movie
« Reply #169 on: January 12, 2010, 02:32:10 pm »
It's worth noting (again) that clarity issues aside, the 3D effects in Coraline put Avatar's to shame.
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Re: Avatar - The Movie
« Reply #170 on: January 12, 2010, 03:31:20 pm »
The depth in Coraline was the best I've seen so far. It's a minor thing, but the kitchen window always blew my mind.

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« Reply #171 on: January 12, 2010, 04:06:26 pm »
Another vote for Coraline. It was a totally immersive! I still love the movie and we have watched it many times on DVD (Yes, I own the actual DVD). It is not the same movie at all in 2D though. Nightmare before Christmas has been in 3D the last 2 years at Halloween, and I have missed it both times unfortunately. I wonder at how good the 3D work is on it.

Avatar's 3d was more like a 2D movie with occasional stereoscopic accents. When it was over, I felt like I had watched a 2D film.

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« Reply #172 on: January 12, 2010, 05:50:19 pm »
I watched Avatar in real3D or whatever it is at my local theater and it was great. two days later I drove down and saw it at the nearest Imax theater.

Pro's for the Imax was the bigger screen better 3d glasses, and the 3d effects seem to stand out a little more. The movie itself was just as enjoyable.

I think that my perception of the imax showing was that the aspect ratio was not as wide but that could easilt be because of the curvature of the screen and that the screen was closer.

Both were enjoyable, and it was worth an hour drive to see the Imax showing...I'm not sure if I would go much further though if I had any sort of decent theater close to home.

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Re: Avatar - The Movie
« Reply #173 on: January 13, 2010, 09:42:12 am »
Coraline is creepy as hell and I've always turned it off halfway through.

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« Reply #174 on: January 13, 2010, 10:18:22 am »
PBJ is a wuss if he cant finish Coraline.

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« Reply #175 on: January 13, 2010, 10:35:48 am »



Wow. That really puts it in perspective huh?

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« Reply #176 on: January 13, 2010, 10:40:02 am »
Coraline is creepy as hell and I've always turned it off halfway through.

I think it'd disturb most kids, but maybe not.

Coraline is creepy as hell! Ironically enough though, my nearly 3 year old daughter LOVES Coraline and Nightmare Before Christmas. Yes Jim, you are a bigger wuss than a 2 year old.

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« Reply #177 on: January 13, 2010, 12:00:29 pm »
Your two year old daughter loves a movie about a girl that hates her parents so much so fantasizes about escaping to a set of new parents?


Yes, my 2 year obviously understands the script well enough to pick out the subtle plot nuances. Anyways, she didn't hate her parents. She loved them deeply but was hurt because they didn't pay attention to her because of their work. I think many of us latch key kids can sympathize with that character.

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« Reply #178 on: January 14, 2010, 02:36:12 am »
Latch key is two words?  I think I've never seen it written.

My 3 year old loves Coraline and often insists that I call her Coraline.  She also sometimes calls my wife her other mother.  It's hilarious.  There are parts that scare her, though, but not very badly.  For what it's worth, it IS creepy.  But it's brilliantly creepy.
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« Reply #179 on: February 02, 2010, 01:32:10 am »
LOL . . . good review

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« Reply #180 on: February 02, 2010, 11:05:36 am »
I recommend most of the RedLetterMedia reviews. The 70 min. review evisceration of Phantom Menace is one of the more entertaining things I've seen on youtube.
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« Reply #181 on: February 02, 2010, 11:13:45 am »
I seen this movie for the first time in 3d on mushrooms....  :laugh:

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« Reply #182 on: February 02, 2010, 12:26:50 pm »
does "mushroom" make it even more 3d?? did that make any sense??

I gotta try some of this..ANYTHING..I am too old to never get into something..I never even smoked weed before  :dunno
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« Reply #183 on: February 02, 2010, 12:44:48 pm »
Aren't you already grown and living with your parents?  I can't believe you don't have a drug habit already.



no I moved out 3 years ago. are you still homosexual and trollling?

I dont even know where to get drugs. is it like in the movies?? walk up to random people in "da hood" and be like "you holdin bro?"
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« Reply #184 on: February 02, 2010, 02:56:35 pm »
Yeah . . . it's funny.  I once walked a girl home I was dating and then I cut through a park across the street from he place to get back to the metro stop.  It was about 10:30 pm.  On my way through the park I was offered drugs 3 times.  Weed twice, hash once.  I told her the next day and she was so offended.  She was like, "I've lived there six months and nobody has ever offered me drugs!"  It was so funny, cos it's not so much that she wanted drugs, but that she thought it was sexist, or classist or something.

Anyway, yeah.  Drugs are really easy to find.
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« Reply #185 on: February 02, 2010, 04:06:05 pm »
I haven't seen the nominations, but I can speak to a few of those movies.

  • I've said plenty about Avatar.
  • The Blind Side - Haven't seen it, but my brother said Bullock was retarded in it.  He also said that the black guy scored poorly on standardized tests, but he was off the charts on protective instincts.  This should be straight to DVD.
  • District 9 - Liked it a lot, but it was heavy handed in areas (seriously . . . Johanesburg?  like we can't figure out the apartheid references unless you beat us over the head?).  Also, they totally had these complex characters and so on, but then made the villain this ridiculous group right out of a comic book
  • The Hurt Locker - Just a legitimately good movie.  See it.
  • Inglourious Basterds - Worth seeing for many reasons, but not great.  Not Tarantino's worst (that honor goes to Death Trap), but not even remotely thinking about approaching his best.
  • Up - Very good.  Not Pixar's best.  Not nearly their worst.  Probably deserves best Animation, though Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs was very good.  Cloudy doesn't come close to Pixar's movie in terms of technical achievement.
  • A Serioius Man - This damned thing never opened in Miami.  I want to see it and I have no doubt that it will be amazing.  It's made by the best filmmakers of our time, and from what I've read I have the impression that this may be one of their best.  I will probably see it this weekend.  My friend has a screener.
  • Up in the Air - Very good.  I don't know about metaphore, but the dialog was great, the story was great, the characters were complex, the issues people were struggling with felt real and relevant.  The whole film seemed really honest, not to mention timely (with the economy the way it is).  And it was funny.  And it didn't rip us off with a syrupy Hollywood ending.  It was a good show, IMO.
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Edit: Since writing this post I got around to taking a look at the list of nominees.  I mentioned Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs as competition for Up, but I totally forgot that Coraline and Fantastic Mr. Fox came out in 2009 (hilarious, since I went on and on about Coraline just a few posts up :) ).  I would be perfectly happy to see either of those films win over Up.  
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« Reply #186 on: February 02, 2010, 04:34:34 pm »
That's "Death Proof" not "Death Trap," which is still good, it's just Quentin's worst.

A Serious Man is out next week on DVD / Blu-ray. I'll be doing a blind buy. I own and love all of the Coen Bros movies (except The Ladykillers, which I don't count), and I know this will be great as well.

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« Reply #187 on: February 02, 2010, 04:47:50 pm »
serious man is fkn hilarious lol. dont think anyone would regreat buying it.


black dynamite is hilarious too.

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« Reply #188 on: February 02, 2010, 11:49:06 pm »
I seriously hope Coraline beats Up. Up was 'okay', but it wasn't near as good as folks have made it out to be. Movie had a great setup and I cried like a damn baby because of the intro thing. Then it was as if they outsourced the rest of the movie to Dreamworks or something...it was not up to Pixar standards.

I really, really need to see Hurt Locker. Is it on DVD yet?

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« Reply #189 on: February 03, 2010, 01:03:07 am »

I really, really need to see Hurt Locker. Is it on DVD yet?


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« Reply #190 on: May 24, 2010, 10:14:50 pm »
I haven't seen the nominations, but I can speak to a few of those movies.

  • I've said plenty about Avatar.
  • The Blind Side - Haven't seen it, but my brother said Bullock was retarded in it.  He also said that the black guy scored poorly on standardized tests, but he was off the charts on protective instincts.  This should be straight to DVD.
  • District 9 - Liked it a lot, but it was heavy handed in areas (seriously . . . Johanesburg?  like we can't figure out the apartheid references unless you beat us over the head?).  Also, they totally had these complex characters and so on, but then made the villain this ridiculous group right out of a comic book
  • The Hurt Locker - Just a legitimately good movie.  See it.
  • Inglourious Basterds - Worth seeing for many reasons, but not great.  Not Tarantino's worst (that honor goes to Death Trap), but not even remotely thinking about approaching his best.
  • Up - Very good.  Not Pixar's best.  Not nearly their worst.  Probably deserves best Animation, though Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs was very good.  Cloudy doesn't come close to Pixar's movie in terms of technical achievement.
  • A Serioius Man - This damned thing never opened in Miami.  I want to see it and I have no doubt that it will be amazing.  It's made by the best filmmakers of our time, and from what I've read I have the impression that this may be one of their best.  I will probably see it this weekend.  My friend has a screener.
  • Up in the Air - Very good.  I don't know about metaphore, but the dialog was great, the story was great, the characters were complex, the issues people were struggling with felt real and relevant.  The whole film seemed really honest, not to mention timely (with the economy the way it is).  And it was funny.  And it didn't rip us off with a syrupy Hollywood ending.  It was a good show, IMO.
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Edit: Since writing this post I got around to taking a look at the list of nominees.  I mentioned Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs as competition for Up, but I totally forgot that Coraline and Fantastic Mr. Fox came out in 2009 (hilarious, since I went on and on about Coraline just a few posts up :) ).  I would be perfectly happy to see either of those films win over Up.  


Those movies are very excellent especially the avatar. It was really an amazing movie and also with all artists. I like the story plot of this film and I am sure this will mark another great impact to the history of entertainment.
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Re: Avatar - The Movie
« Reply #191 on: May 25, 2010, 09:51:20 am »
Somebody set up us the bomb.

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We get signal!  :afro:
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