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Author Topic: Wells D9410 emits ear peircing noises using ArcadeVGA 3000 - Please help  (Read 2492 times)

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Here is my situation...

I just got the ArcadeVGA 3000 last week.  I had previously been using an old Nvidia graphics card on XP and Soft 15khz with
the "Install 31khz" option.  Since I couldn't get some of the native resolutions a lot of games use, I naturally wanted the ArcadeVGA.  I've got it installed and running but every resolution I choose, other than 640x480 and above, the monitor produces this ear splitting sine wave (that's the best way I can describe it).  This certainly can't be normal IMO because its painful to even stand near my cabinet for long.  And no I don't have super human ears as it can be heard by anyone in the same room.

Now here is where I'm confused.  Ultimarc is blaming my monitor, saying I should contact Wells.  When using the Nvidia card, many of the resolutions I was able to achieve using Soft 15khz, in particular 320x240 and 368x240, produced no such ear piercing noise, so how could it be my monitor?  In fact I could choose many low resolutions and never hear this noise.  When using the Nvidia card, I only got the noise if I picked certain weird resolutions.

I'm very frustrated to have just spent $100 on this card.  How could this possibly be my monitor when the Nvidia card produces no such sound at the same resolutions that the ArcadeVGA does?  What exactly is going on here?  I know my monitor can do these resolutions WITHOUT making this horrible noise because I've been using it for the past year just fine using the Nvidia card.  Any ideas please chime in!



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Ok I've got some solid information that might help.  I pressed the OSD button on my Wells 9410 to display the FH and FV frequencies on several resolutions on both the Nvidia and the ArcadeVGA 3000 and made note.  There are huge differences between the resolutions that cause the high pitch sound on the Nvidia vs the ArcadeVGA.  Why are frequencies double on the Nvidia?  My monitor must only be able to properly do the resolutions at the Nvidia frequencies.  The Wells 9410 is a 15-38 Khz monitor.  I guess I need the ArcadeVGA to do these resolutions at double the frequency that it is currently to get rid of the noise.  Can this be done?  Any ideas?  Thanks!

NVIDIA                          ArcadeVGA 3000

256x240  FH 31.6 Khz      256x240  FH 15.8 Khz
             FV 121.1 Hz                   FV 60.6 Hz

320x240  FH 31.1 Khz      320x240  FH 15.9 Khz      
             FV 117.7 Hz                   FV 60.3 Hz

368x240  FH 31.2 Khz      368x240  FH 16.0 Khz
             FV 118.2 Hz                   FV 60.5 Hz
« Last Edit: June 08, 2010, 10:21:15 pm by BlazzingFlippers »

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Hum... I don't think its possible to modify the ArcadeVGA, though you might try using the DVI port of your ArcadeVGA with a DVI-VGA Adapter.

Your monitor seems to be simply screaming at 15kHz.
Most likely its really some kind of defect.


But there are two other things that bother me.


1. Did you use some custom modelines? Normaly you should NOT have the lowres modes with 120Hz in 31kHz. What NVidia card was is?


2. "I couldn't get some of the native resolutions a lot of games use, I naturally wanted the ArcadeVGA."

Soft-15khz should provide the same resolutions as an ArcadeVGA.
I do all that stuff even without a Joystick ;)
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Hum... I don't think its possible to modify the ArcadeVGA, though you might try using the DVI port of your ArcadeVGA with a DVI-VGA Adapter.

Your monitor seems to be simply screaming at 15kHz.
Most likely its really some kind of defect.


But there are two other things that bother me.


1. Did you use some custom modelines? Normaly you should NOT have the lowres modes with 120Hz in 31kHz. What NVidia card was is?


2. "I couldn't get some of the native resolutions a lot of games use, I naturally wanted the ArcadeVGA."

Soft-15khz should provide the same resolutions as an ArcadeVGA.

Thanks for your help SailorSat.  The Nvidia card is a Geforce FX 5900 AGP on my older system.  All I did was run Soft15khz and choose the Install 31khz option.  I didn't edit a thing or add any custom mode lines it just worked as is.  Regarding why I got the ArcadgeVGA...  I built a new system that has only PCIe so I got the ArcadeVGA 3000.  I was under the impression that the ArcadeVGA would get me all the other resolutions that I couldn't get with my Nvidia using Soft 15khz.  By other, I mean some of the ones that don't make my monitor scream.  I thought the ArcadeVGA could do all of those low resolutions without screaming. 

So my Wells D9410 should not be screaming at these low resolutions?  Is there anyone on here that has a Wells and an ArcadeVGA that can do these modes without the screaming?  This was a brand new monitor bought in May of 2009 and has barely been used. 

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Oh I should mention on the Nvidia, I am using the Omega drivers if that means anything.

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I tried plugging into DVI port and while I don't get the screaming the moment I turn on the computer and see the POST screens, once into Windows, I can't see anything using any resolution.  Plugged into the VGA port I get screaming the second I turn on the PC.  How can get output on my monitor while plugged into the DVI port?
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Ok I've got some solid information that might help.  I pressed the OSD button on my Wells 9410 to display the FH and FV frequencies on several resolutions on both the Nvidia and the ArcadeVGA 3000 and made note.  There are huge differences between the resolutions that cause the high pitch sound on the Nvidia vs the ArcadeVGA.  Why are frequencies double on the Nvidia?  My monitor must only be able to properly do the resolutions at the Nvidia frequencies.  The Wells 9410 is a 15-38 Khz monitor.  I guess I need the ArcadeVGA to do these resolutions at double the frequency that it is currently to get rid of the noise.  Can this be done?  Any ideas?  Thanks!

NVIDIA                          ArcadeVGA 3000

256x240  FH 31.6 Khz      256x240  FH 15.8 Khz
             FV 121.1 Hz                   FV 60.6 Hz

320x240  FH 31.1 Khz      320x240  FH 15.9 Khz      
             FV 117.7 Hz                   FV 60.3 Hz

368x240  FH 31.2 Khz      368x240  FH 16.0 Khz
             FV 118.2 Hz                   FV 60.5 Hz

So you were running over 100hz on the FV for all resolutions, wouldnt this have burnt the Wells out running at such high hz??

On a side note ive just gotten a ArcadeVGA 3000 card, and while it was working fine under win xp on my pentranic monitor, i have now upgraded to win 7 and now 640x480 isnt woerrking anymore, all i get is a black screen and a constant chirpping sound from the monitor

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Ok I've got some solid information that might help.  I pressed the OSD button on my Wells 9410 to display the FH and FV frequencies on several resolutions on both the Nvidia and the ArcadeVGA 3000 and made note.  There are huge differences between the resolutions that cause the high pitch sound on the Nvidia vs the ArcadeVGA.  Why are frequencies double on the Nvidia?  My monitor must only be able to properly do the resolutions at the Nvidia frequencies.  The Wells 9410 is a 15-38 Khz monitor.  I guess I need the ArcadeVGA to do these resolutions at double the frequency that it is currently to get rid of the noise.  Can this be done?  Any ideas?  Thanks!

NVIDIA                          ArcadeVGA 3000

256x240  FH 31.6 Khz      256x240  FH 15.8 Khz
             FV 121.1 Hz                   FV 60.6 Hz

320x240  FH 31.1 Khz      320x240  FH 15.9 Khz      
             FV 117.7 Hz                   FV 60.3 Hz

368x240  FH 31.2 Khz      368x240  FH 16.0 Khz
             FV 118.2 Hz                   FV 60.5 Hz

So you were running over 100hz on the FV for all resolutions, wouldnt this have burnt the Wells out running at such high hz??

On a side note ive just gotten a ArcadeVGA 3000 card, and while it was working fine under win xp on my pentranic monitor, i have now upgraded to win 7 and now 640x480 isnt woerrking anymore, all i get is a black screen and a constant chirpping sound from the monitor

No the Wells has run fine at those 100+ high Hz frequencies and I much prefer those because they don't hurt my ears.  I'm just trying now to figure out if its possible to get the ArcadeVGA to run at those same levels or otherwise I'll have to deal with the screaming or get a different card.