NewEgg Help with Barebones

[Chunce DeLeone]

I am building a Juke and want a Micro ATX pc.  Nothing crazy but really cheap.  So I have been looking at Newegg and there are a couple of choices, Barbones PC's, Motherboard/CPU & Motherboard / CPU / VGA Combo Deals.  I do not want a case for this PC because it will be housed inside a Juke.  So if I go with Motherboard / CPU / VGA Combo Deals and have a HD and monitor, all I would need is a Powersupply and ram?  Is there a choice to search NewEgg or some other site like it for Motherboard/CPU/Memory/Powersupply without a case?  If you see any good deals please post. 

[ViciousXUSMC]

Use my build, I built it to be as high powered as possible on the cheap.

You can cut out the HTPC extras like the remote/keyboard/mouse/case you can use a much smaller hard drive, and then get a decent PSU your looking to get away cheap.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=11010688

You want to go with a low power cpu like that one because it runs cooler and uses less power.  Cheaper power bill and less need for a good psu and less need for good cooling, same goes for the hard drive.  The new green drives are great.

I picked that mobo for HTPC due to its high end IGP and multiple video out methods, you can shave some $$$ with a cheaper mobo too but I highly recommend that one even if it is a bit more than what you may need.

[Chunce DeLeone]

Thanks for the info,  thats looks like a good deal.  I just noticed Mini ITX MB's,  are these any good?  Also what kind of powersupply would hook into these? 

[clok]

Here is a pretty sweet deal, depending on if the speed is up to snuff for you.

http://www.ewiz.com/combo.php?cat_id=222

Still need memory (seen newegg had a 4 gig set for under $50 and plenty of PSU are under $50, and vid card? plan on running any other emulators? modern stuff?  lots of ok cards for just under $50 and plenty of very good ones in the $100 area.

Several people have reported pretty good OC's with the above MB chip combo (if you do that type of thing).

Good luck

[ViciousXUSMC]

Thanks for the info,  thats looks like a good deal.  I just noticed Mini ITX MB's,  are these any good?  Also what kind of powersupply would hook into these? 

Same as normal, its just a different format board.  If its any good depends on the specs & price of the board.

[MrMojoZ]

...and plenty of PSU are under $50, and vid card?

PSU is the one thing I wouldn't skimp on.

[ViciousXUSMC]

...and plenty of PSU are under $50, and vid card?

PSU is the one thing I wouldn't skimp on.

Agreed, but it does not take a killer PSU to run a low power cpu & igp combo.  When your building your desktop that has like a quad core, and full blown gpu units thats when you have to spend the big bucks.

[Chunce DeLeone]

I appreciate the responses. With this info I have what I need to search out the new PC!!!

[massive88]

Agreed, but it does not take a killer PSU to run a low power cpu & igp combo.  When your building your desktop that has like a quad core, and full blown gpu units thats when you have to spend the big bucks.

People over spending on the PSU is a pet peeve of mine.  If you know what you are going to run, you can plan out your power needs.

My arcade machine is running on a high quality 380W, with a 3.2ghz Core2Duo, 9800GTX+, 2HDD and I have no power problems. 

Ill admit I was worried after adding in the 9800, Id rather have a 450W, but its just further validation that you dont need those 700W+ monsters unless you are running SLi cards or Raid Arrays or what have you.

[clok]

Totally agree, don't skimp on the PSU, but for what he was mentioning a good $50ish one would be just fine.  I'm amazed at how the Computer market has swung. I remember when the CPU and Memory where the Killer priced parts. I just looked at an old box of PC part receipt and had 128 ram stick for $300! the 700MHz Intel CPU was $400. Nowdays the CPU is $200 and the ram is Under $50 (even cheaper if you not going hog wild). But MB prices are $200+ (many cases $300+) and Video cards!!!!!! a new one every 6 months at $3-500! that is, if you believe the hype.

I build systems (not for a living, but as part of it) maybe 20-50 a year and I have built everything from "so cheap its Fisher Price" to "I can almost run Crysis with all options on" depending in customer.

To many people eat hype like candy, there are allot of "good" parts for decent prices out there, PSU are one of the weak spots in many systems now days, 3 video cards, OC'ing, giant fans all over and people think a 750 watt PSU that costs $50 is going to do it because its 750Watts. The average system (Quad core CPU, HD, DVD, 2 HD's, couple fans and a 260Nvidea video card (or something close) should pull about 260-350ish watts depending on load. A "GOOD" PSU should be ok at 75% load so a 500Watt PSU should last a long time. many PSU are rated at 80% nowdays. There are always exceptions to the rule. I had a 700Watt corsair die on me, and I have a 8400wofldale (oc to 3.9), 2 DVD drives a 8800GTX and 2 HD's in a case ($30+shipping) I bought from Computergeeks with the CHEEPO no name 400 Watt PSU that has been running it (non stop) for over a year. I keep forgetting to swap it out. I DO NOT re comend the cheepo's, its not if it will fail, its just when, I'm living on borrowed time right now I'm sure, but just never think of swapping it out until I'm actually using the computer and don't want to shutdown then.

Sorry for the novel length post, just hate to see people thinking a $200 PSU is required, or a $600 video card. There are cases when High end equipment is needed, but for Mame machines, average gaming its just plain silly to spend $1000+ and find out in 1 year you can get 2X the speed again for the same price. those $500 video cards that are top of the line today and in 6-12 months you can buy for $150... I guess if you have the money, why not, they tell us it will help the economy.

Clok

By the way OP, let us know hoe it all works out.

[ViciousXUSMC]

You can get good power supplies cheap, just gotta look around.

the 620w award winning corsair unit was like $75 on newegg yesterday,  $75 intant with $30 MIR.

I personally use PC P&C stuff in my high end rigs due to there warranty and undisputed reliability.  My Turbo 510 does not even have .01v of sag from idle to load and lets me fine tune the pents.

My current rig uses the 750w silencer.  Its not about the wattage, just the quality of parts.  A cheapo brand 1000w PSU probably performs about the same as a 500w good brand. 

[DeLuSioNal29]

Check out Xoxide.com for great power supply deals too (and cooling products).  I have 3 of these and they are rock solid for over a year:  $23.99 580 Watts with 2 fans!
http://www.xoxide.com/casegears-black-steel-580w-psu.html

Also, I ran across these deals at www.newegg.com. 
RAM:  $19.99 (2GB DDR2) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820134488
Motherboard: $54.99 w/integrated audio and video (ATI) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813128342
CPU:  $56.99 AMD X2 5200 (2.7ghz) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819103210
Hard Drive:  $41.99 (160GB Sata) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822136075

You can get the whole thing for under $200.

You could always go for more RAM, but Win XP only sees 3 GB max.  2 GB is already overkill IMHO.

DDR2 is dirt cheap and for MAME, the speed of the DDR2 does not matter.  800 will do just fine, no need for 1066 unless it's on sale.

My machine is running AMD X2 4600+ (originally ran and AMD X2 4000+ and it ran fine).  I only upgraded because I gave away my other machine and 4600+ was the same price later when I ordered it.  I have 2GB of RAM.  160 GB hard drive (IDE, but the one above is SATA which will be faster).

Hope this helps!

~ DeLuSioNaL

[SavannahLion]

Not to be a killjoy or anything. But including manufacture and model numbers preceding , within or after your product links would be really really really nice. I've hit up a lot of forums over the years with posts no less than six months old with links to products (and no description) only to find the manufacturer changed their link (URL structure, discontinued product, whatever) and no way to figure out what the heck the forum members were talking about and thusly, no reference point to make a purchase choice.