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Soccer by Ramtek restore
« on: October 10, 2008, 09:09:33 pm »
I picked this up a couple of weeks ago in a lot of 29 machines I bought from a retiring operator. It's all original and the only problems from I can see from the outside is dirt, flaking paint and the edges of the wood is swollen (you can see it sticking out from each side of the T-molding), and the AC cable has deteriorated to the point of falling apart. Almost forgot, the start button is missing or has fallen inside the cabinet.

I'll drill out the rear door lock tomorrow to see what's inside.


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Re: Soccer by Ramtek restore
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2008, 03:54:00 am »
Cool, nice to see a real old-timer for a change, they usually don't get much love.

This will be interesting to follow. You got a couple of challenges ahead :)

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Re: Soccer by Ramtek restore
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2008, 02:31:28 pm »
FWIW...
I have repaired one of these ecently for a friend, monitor and pcb.
I have also dumped the only PROM on that PCB, just in case :).
The closest monitor manual is within this one http://www.cityofberwyn.com/manuals/GranTrak20.pdf

Have fun :)
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Re: Soccer by Ramtek restore
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2008, 06:56:56 pm »
I drilled the rear lock, pulled the cover, and found everything in place. The electronics were very clean, the wooden parts are filthy.

I pulled the original AC cable and replace it with a new one.

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Re: Soccer by Ramtek restore
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2008, 06:59:08 pm »
I hit the power and .... IT'S ALIVE!!!

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Re: Soccer by Ramtek restore
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2008, 07:01:12 pm »
As an added bonus, under all of the filth there was an original owner/service manual inside the envelope. The manual was in great shape.


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Re: Soccer by Ramtek restore
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2008, 07:08:03 pm »
Things to do ...

Start button (does anyone have a picture that shows what an original looks like?)
4 x pots for the player controls, the originals feel very rough
Lots of cleaning and scrubbing to remove 35 years of dirt, filth and grime
Make a stencil, re-silkscreen a new piece of glass and store the original
Try to figure out what to do with the swollen and damaged edges of the wood panels
Once finished, re-locate from storage to the gameroom

I'll post a picture of the machine once finished.

-JM
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Re: Soccer by Ramtek restore
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2008, 07:13:43 pm »
FWIW...
I have repaired one of these ecently for a friend, monitor and pcb.
I have also dumped the only PROM on that PCB, just in case :).
The closest monitor manual is within this one http://www.cityofberwyn.com/manuals/GranTrak20.pdf

Have fun :)

I'll have a scanned copy of the manual next week if you or your friend need it.

-JM

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Re: Soccer by Ramtek restore
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2008, 05:43:58 am »
Wow how many times would you have a game like that work straight away !

Congrats !

The monitor might need some new caps.



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Re: Soccer by Ramtek restore
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2008, 04:54:09 pm »

I'll have a scanned copy of the manual next week if you or your friend need it.

-JM

That would be great. Much appreciated. Will give you my email via PM. :-)
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Re: Soccer by Ramtek restore
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2008, 07:51:05 pm »
Ok, I got a small switch to try to get it out of attract mode and into play mode. Wired in the switch and the screen goes haywire each time it is pressed. I have to unplug the machine and plug it back in to get it to show the correct picture again.

The switch also goes to an AC relay that prevented it from giving free games when the power was shut off and back on again. The monitor is also the power supply on this machine.

The wiring that is available for the switch is Logic Ground, +5v and Coin switch.

I'll make sure to have my tools and a vacuum cleaner on the next trip. If I can get it to play and also get it cleaned up then it can come home and fill the empty spot I made in the gameroom for it.

Oh well, so much for easy fixes. Grrrrrr.

Sorry if this seems like a rambling post, I'm kind of thinking out loud about the problem while typing.

-JM

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DANGER! SHORT! HIGH VOLTAGE!
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2008, 01:52:50 pm »
 :timebomb:

Remove your additional switch because you have build a short with 5V on the wrong line!!!

I have destroyed my PCB like that! Have made the same things you did! Needed a freeplay coin switch outside the cab and killed my soccer.  :cry:

Have seen the same distorted screen when i pressed the switch.  :timebomb:

Connecting an extra switch parallel to the coin switch, will not work on this old soccer.

No problem with newer PCB and cabs but this one has a different setting!

Got my soccer PCB repaired by a trained technican, now. :notworthy:


P.S: Do you need the other picture of the start button (on top)?? We send you the pic from the side with the type and numbers before.

Please give me a note when you find the circuit diagram or other info related to this game.



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Re: DANGER! SHORT! HIGH VOLTAGE!
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2008, 09:16:40 pm »
:timebomb:

Remove your additional switch because you have build a short with 5V on the wrong line!!!

I have destroyed my PCB like that! Have made the same things you did! Needed a freeplay coin switch outside the cab and killed my soccer.  :cry:

Have seen the same distorted screen when i pressed the switch.  :timebomb:

Connecting an extra switch parallel to the coin switch, will not work on this old soccer.

No problem with newer PCB and cabs but this one has a different setting!

Got my soccer PCB repaired by a trained technican, now. :notworthy:


P.S: Do you need the other picture of the start button (on top)?? We send you the pic from the side with the type and numbers before.

Please give me a note when you find the circuit diagram or other info related to this game.



Thanks for letting me know before I killed the board. I have wired it in every combo possible and can't seem to get it to start.

Did you get yours wired up to where it will start? If so, could you send me a drawing of the diagram? I'd really like to get it to start up so we can play it.

Also, a picture from the top would be great so I can make it look original.

Thanks,

-JM