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beerbarrel · « **Reply #40 on:** September 16, 2008, 04:59:08 pm »

retrocade,

This is one of those instances where the pic looks better than the item. Kinda like movie stars..

I was trying to save myself the 85 dollars but I don't think that I'm going to be able too.

beerbarrel · « **Reply #41 on:** September 17, 2008, 11:03:27 am »

Welp, I made the plunge. I went ahead and bought the stencils.

Tracy

Quote from: RetroACTIVE on September 16, 2008, 04:38:29 pm

Quote from: beerbarrel on September 16, 2008, 04:24:28 pm
Welp, I spent a couple of hours with a razor blade and I've gone from solid black to what resembles a Defender pic. I could probably make my own stencils from what I have here but it might be tons easier just to spend the 85 dollars and get some stencils. It sure would be nice to make a set tha we could share with the community.

Tracy

Heck... that looks good! I wouldn't even mess with it... keep using the razor blade. Stencils are already out there for Defender anyway.

http://www.oleszakcreative.com/store/shop/item.asp?itemid=114

beerbarrel · « **Reply #42 on:** September 17, 2008, 05:41:29 pm »

I went to add one more thing to thread. I sent an email to Bob Roberts on Sunday about a power supply rebuild kit and connector kit. He replied later that day and said to send him a check. I sent it through my web banking on Monday. I had the kit in my hands about noon today! Talk about service! Also, talk about a trusting individual. He definately will get more business from me.

Tracy

WunderCade · « **Reply #43 on:** September 17, 2008, 06:42:53 pm »

Bob's takes web-checks? I didn't know that.

TheShanMan · « **Reply #44 on:** September 17, 2008, 07:00:20 pm »

He really is awesome. I had a similar experience the day he opened back up for business a week or 2 ago.

beerbarrel · « **Reply #45 on:** September 18, 2008, 05:41:52 am »

He takes regular checks so I just assumed he would take one. It's really the same thing I guess. I do all my banking online. It beats writing checks by hand and paying postage.

Tracy

Quote from: WunderCade on September 17, 2008, 06:42:53 pm

Bob's takes web-checks? I didn't know that.

beerbarrel · « **Reply #46 on:** September 18, 2008, 05:44:53 am »

Dumb question time...

I'm curious about whether anyone has removed the plexiglass in front of their monitors and replaced it with tempered glass. I was thinking of doing that if I can get a new decal to put on the reverse side of it. I might need to ask this in another topic area.

Tracy

RetroACTIVE · « **Reply #47 on:** September 18, 2008, 08:47:57 am »

Quote from: beerbarrel on September 18, 2008, 05:44:53 am

Dumb question time...

I'm curious about whether anyone has removed the plexiglass in front of their monitors and replaced it with tempered glass. I was thinking of doint that if I can get a new deacl to put on the reverse side of it. I might need to ask this in another topic area.

Tracy

You can put anything you want on the front as long as it fits

... Arcadeshop sells a pretty good repro of the Defender plexi-art bezel.

beerbarrel · « **Reply #48 on:** September 22, 2008, 10:11:18 pm »

Thanks for the help guys..

I have done little in the last few days. I did order the stencils and according to ozark creations website they have been mailed out. I also got a PS rebuild kit from Bob Roberts. I did not realize that the big filter cap did not come in the rebuild kit. So, needless to say, I was short that cap. I had to order some junk from Mouser so I go it there. It came in the mail today. I have never done a video for Youtube before but I think I will do one for the PS rebuild. We will see how it goes.

Tracy

TheShanMan · « **Reply #49 on:** September 22, 2008, 11:06:15 pm »

A video would be cool! I haven't done mine yet so if you do a video I'll definitely watch it.

I didn't even notice the lack of the big cap. Guess I'll be making a mouser order too.

beerbarrel · « **Reply #50 on:** September 26, 2008, 06:58:48 am »

Decals have arrived and they look good. I'm just about ready to strip the cab and start painting the cab but first I have to make a run to Atlanta and pick up the Tekkan 4 cab I bought. ahhh....another project.

Tracy

beerbarrel · « **Reply #51 on:** October 03, 2008, 06:11:11 pm »

Time to get started. I'm going to do my PS this weekend and film it. I don't think that it will make me a film star but maybe it will turn out ok. I should have it posted by Sunday night. Wish me luck it is my first you tube video.

Tracy

beerbarrel · « **Reply #52 on:** October 05, 2008, 12:26:24 pm »

Welp, I made my video. If I can ever figure out how to get it from analog to digital and then on to youtube, it will be a miracle. I spent the day yesterday taping and then trying to get it on to the computer. I finally gave up. I do have a few pointers though:

1. Resolder all of the connector pins on all 3 connectors. At least half of mine were bad.

2 Clean the all the connector pins mine had a good bit of corrosion.

3. If you don't have good desoldering equipment then clip each lead on the IC's and remove the pins one at a time. I have a desoldeing station but still had a few issues because of the nature of double sided boards.

4. Be careful! The pads are easy to lift. Dumbo me lifted two. Luckily they were just solder points on the bottom of the board. The traces that went to the associated pins were on the top of the board. I reglued the pads and was back in business but this is not always the case.

5. The large cap that stands up on the board has a dummy pin that helps hold it to the board. You will desolder 3 pins but will only solder 2 on the new cap.

6. If you get your kit from Bob Roberts then remember that the kit does not come with the largest cap. You will have to buy that one extra. You can get it from Bob Roberts as well.

7. Lastly, you might want to have some thermal paste handy for the 2N3055 transistor and don't forget to put the mica insulator back on.

Hope this helps...

Tracy

RayB · « **Reply #53 on:** October 05, 2008, 03:01:02 pm »

Who is Dave Roberts?

beerbarrel · « **Reply #54 on:** October 05, 2008, 03:21:16 pm »

I don't know! Who is Dave Roberts?

Quote from: RayB on October 05, 2008, 03:01:02 pm

Who is Dave Roberts?

RayB · « **Reply #55 on:** October 05, 2008, 11:04:00 pm »

beerbarrel · « **Reply #56 on:** October 05, 2008, 11:05:29 pm »

Duh...what was I thinking? Thanks for pointing out my error!

Quote from: RayB on October 05, 2008, 11:04:00 pm

beerbarrel · « **Reply #57 on:** October 18, 2008, 10:48:21 am »

Here is my first attemp at a video...be gentle!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5xXyeEcZSY[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8L-8GWL3Eg[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqXo9HEHQ3Q[/youtube]

TheShanMan · « **Reply #58 on:** October 18, 2008, 01:05:04 pm »

Thanks for making the videos, BB. Well done. When I'm ready to do my board I'll watch them again.

WunderCade · « **Reply #59 on:** October 18, 2008, 04:51:56 pm »

Quote from: beerbarrel on September 18, 2008, 05:44:53 am

Dumb question time...

I'm curious about whether anyone has removed the plexiglass in front of their monitors and replaced it with tempered glass. I was thinking of doing that if I can get a new decal to put on the reverse side of it. I might need to ask this in another topic area.

Tracy

Not a dumb question at all. Check out the back and forth on this thread. I ask the guy basically what you are inquiring about and he says they can print reverse side on glass just like the glass bezels. I don't know how costly it'd be, but it'd be worth asking the guy...he says you can send in a .ai vector file - you might see if the Defender bezel is available at localarcade.com.

beerbarrel · « **Reply #60 on:** October 19, 2008, 12:15:34 am »

You know, I read that thread. I'm thinking that if I can get some 3/16 tempered glass and a overlay I would be good to go. In the thread, the guy says that he can only handle 24 inches wide. The glass in Defender is 24.5. I like glass for the clarity, plus my plexi is got this weird pitting going on.

Tracy

Quote from: WunderCade on October 18, 2008, 04:51:56 pm

Quote from: beerbarrel on September 18, 2008, 05:44:53 am
Dumb question time...

I'm curious about whether anyone has removed the plexiglass in front of their monitors and replaced it with tempered glass. I was thinking of doing that if I can get a new decal to put on the reverse side of it. I might need to ask this in another topic area.

Tracy

Not a dumb question at all. Check out the back and forth on this thread. I ask the guy basically what you are inquiring about and he says they can print reverse side on glass just like the glass bezels. I don't know how costly it'd be, but it'd be worth asking the guy...he says you can send in a .ai vector file - you might see if the Defender bezel is available at localarcade.com.

WunderCade · « **Reply #61 on:** October 20, 2008, 12:11:24 am »

Well...if you're thinking about adhering a sticker bezel to the back of glass...it's talked about in this thread.

beerbarrel · « **Reply #62 on:** October 20, 2008, 01:02:36 pm »

That's it Wundercade. I'm still aways down the road from that point but I think that it can be done. I kind of like the idea about the model decals. Surely someone does that?

Tracy

beerbarrel · « **Reply #63 on:** December 26, 2008, 07:51:11 pm »

Finally back on the Defender. It's Robert Chou out Linear in! I finally got around to installing the OE P/S. All voltages check good. The only thing left to do is wire on some new connectors that I got from Bob Roberts. I'm going to have to lengthen the 6 wire harness by about a foot. It looks like whomever put in the Chou cut the harness by a good bit. I have also picked up a new overlay, marquee, joystick rebuild kit. It's almost time to finish the cab and stencil. I almost forgot to mention that the PS that came out of a coctal seems to be a little smaller the the upright. Maybe they just changed board sizes over the years.

beerbarrel · « **Reply #64 on:** December 27, 2008, 08:24:06 pm »

Nope, the PS is not smaller it is missing mount brackets.

Tracy

beerbarrel · « **Reply #65 on:** December 28, 2008, 04:34:18 pm »

I hate to rub it in but it was about 80 outside today. I got the defender out and finished scraping all the thick black paint from it. I'm ready for bondo and sanding now. I'll finish removing all the boards tonight. I plan on upgrading the memory to 41256 and doing the mod that is here http://scoresaves.com/documents/JustSayNoTo4116.html. I'm also going to install the battery upgrade. I plan on posting a video here. Here is the latest pic:

beerbarrel · « **Reply #66 on:** January 01, 2009, 10:07:35 pm »

Made another video. I installed the Lithium battery upgrade. Video is long but hopefully will help out some folks who might be afraid to do their own.

Tracy

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZwfvndXau4[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4eLiIX-J5w[/youtube]

beerbarrel · « **Reply #67 on:** January 02, 2009, 08:06:09 pm »

Did the memory upgrade and added 41256 memory to my board today. It was really a piece of cake. It will be a few days before I get to test it out but I think that it will be ok. If you look close you can see the mods and cuts that I made in the traces.

Tracy

beerbarrel · « **Reply #68 on:** January 03, 2009, 01:29:59 pm »

Started the bondo process....hopefully panit will not be too far behind.

Level42 · « **Reply #69 on:** January 04, 2009, 02:25:04 pm »

Nice vids ! Why do you use separate flux before soldering ?
I can understand why you use it when desoldering the old solderings but there is already flux inside of your solder tin right ?

I never use flux. To get old solderings "flowing" I simply add a little new solder.

Anyway nice work, and very clear explanation !

beerbarrel · « **Reply #70 on:** January 04, 2009, 08:13:07 pm »

I normally use a little flux on old solder to help it melt. Every now and then I have to add a little solder but not too often. I use solder that does not contain flux so I use rosin flux in my applicator. I just made the video to help out the few folks that might be afraid to attempt it themselves. I've seen your work. You don't need any soldering explanations from me. All your stuff in top notch. I solder the way I do based on habit more than anything. Thanks for the compliments....

Quote from: Level42 on January 04, 2009, 02:25:04 pm

Nice vids ! Why do you use separate flux before soldering ?
I can understand why you use it when desoldering the old solderings but there is already flux inside of your solder tin right ?

I never use flux. To get old solderings "flowing" I simply add a little new solder.

Anyway nice work, and very clear explanation !

beerbarrel · « **Reply #71 on:** July 29, 2012, 09:32:35 pm »

WOW....3 Years and my Defender is still in the same shape. Welp, sometimes life gets in the way. Ive decided to restore it but add JROK's multi Williams to the existing harness. I made up the adapter harness from his drawings this weekend. I'll make a new control panel so that I can play all the games. Ill keep the factory panel so that I can convert it back to Defender in a snap.

beerbarrel · « **Reply #72 on:** July 29, 2012, 09:53:16 pm »

The JROK adapter...

Spyridon · « **Reply #73 on:** August 16, 2012, 04:50:49 pm »

Quote from: beerbarrel on July 29, 2012, 09:32:35 pm

WOW....3 Years and my Defender is still in the same shape.

Glad to see you are still working on this. Now go back and fix your picture links so we can see what shape it was/is in

beerbarrel · « **Reply #74 on:** August 17, 2012, 12:06:13 am »

I will this weekend....did not think anyone was really following this thread...

Quote from: Spyridon on August 16, 2012, 04:50:49 pm

Quote from: beerbarrel on July 29, 2012, 09:32:35 pm
WOW....3 Years and my Defender is still in the same shape.

Glad to see you are still working on this. Now go back and fix your picture links so we can see what shape it was/is in

beerbarrel · « **Reply #75 on:** July 18, 2013, 01:09:36 am »

Cab about ready to paint.....pics coming tomorrow!

beerbarrel · « **Reply #76 on:** July 18, 2013, 01:25:19 pm »

Ready to paint the black this weekend. I'm using satin Rustoleum 7777. I bought a spray bomb to hit the inside corners. I'mm sand those ares lightly and then mix up some 7777 out of a quart can with naptha and spray the rest of the cab. I reinstalled the PS. I painted the coin door. Tonight after work I'll put the mainboard in and see if all works together. Here are some general pics.

beerbarrel · « **Reply #77 on:** July 21, 2013, 04:22:41 pm »

Welp....wiring pretty much done. All back together sans the coin door, it's awaiting a switch from Bob Roberts . I Installed a new Vision Pro monitor, pulled all the ROM chips cleaned and reinstalled. It has been working great for at least 48 hours nonstop! Id I can only get a day without rain to finish paint!

Spyridon · « **Reply #78 on:** July 29, 2013, 09:03:37 am »

Quote from: beerbarrel on August 17, 2012, 12:06:13 am

I will this weekend....did not think anyone was really following this thread...

Don't forget to fix your old links.

beerbarrel · « **Reply #79 on:** July 29, 2013, 10:24:35 am »

all is fixed thats going to get fixed....don'thave the rest of the pics but you get the general idea.


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