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This was posted in announcements, but since it is a restoration I wanted to place it here for help and tips.

I am starting my 1st arcade restoration project and it is with a Neo Geo MVS-4 25 cab.

This will be a MAME cab, I am restoring this NEO GEO MVS to look exactly as it did in its glory. I would appreciate any help that anyone has.

I want to try and make this thing as authentic as possible with certain limitations.

- I am not drilling holes to suit a street-fighter setup, 4 buttons per player is fine by me. I want this thing to be identical to the way it looked originally.

- I live in Germany and getting a wells garner (Zenith original) monitor shipped is pretty much not possible so I am going to install a 25 " TV tube.

I have  a 1.7 P4 with a Geforce 5200 AGP and  1.5gb of ram.  Lots of HD.

- I need any advice on the specifics of TV mounting, which buttons and joysticks are authentic.  Repainting, mounting, electronic wiring.

- Is a Arcade VGA worth it for Svideo output to a TV.

- I will be needing to get a new control panel layout that matches the original.

-  I am also trying to find credit LED's and how to interface them with MAME.

- Don't worry I will use the search function and study each step before I do anything (ie discharge a TV) but I am just saying hello and if you have any words of wisdom let me know.

_ I have attached pics of the cab. Brace yourself for what some loser did to this once beautiful MVS cab. Other than that it is in good shape.


-Don't worry I make it look the way it should. NEO FO' Life
















This is the hole they made for the lightgun, would a  big button mapped to the ESCAPE key be the best? Any thoughts?


This is what it will look like when I am done with it. I just need some help.


I  like the color of the competition's here but are they authentic, this is a pic of my friends real MVS-4 25"


All of the images with a mint cond. German Spy Hunter pinball game.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30329886@N08/

I still need to work it with the wire brush drill bit. It's tough to get the mirror finish consistently ...





any tips on using the metal brush drill bit?

Below is a before pic with the brush bit.




new progress update

Its in great shape in some places, others not so much.

So now its time to decide to use a sticker on the one damaged SNK logo or use a stencil from ess19 to repaint it.

Here's some pics.

I will be replacing this plastic with some Lexan, but I won't drill holes, I have another idea. Think Dr. Evil...


Scraping the old overlay away.


Lots of goo gone.
You can see some old red and white lines from the original MVS overlay.
It pained me to scrap it.




Taking the crap side art from Special Forces craptastist light gun mega force




Right Side is not so bad, some scratches.


Left Side is not bad until it got to the SNK logo
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Re: Neo Geo MVS Restoration Project
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2008, 11:24:04 am »
No, the joysticks have been replaced.  The original joysticks are similar the the super joysticks, but had chromed shafts and black tops.  I find red supers look pretty good.

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Re: Neo Geo MVS Restoration Project
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2008, 02:04:56 pm »
This was posted in announcements, but since it is a restoration I wanted to place it here for help and tips.

I am starting my 1st arcade restoration project and it is with a Neo Geo MVS-4 25 cab.

This will be a MAME cab

This probably does belong in the project announcement section.  While you are restoring the cabinet back to it's original look, you aren't doing a true restore of the game.

You'll get more help on the MAME setup in the other section.
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Re: Neo Geo MVS Restoration Project
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2008, 05:18:16 pm »
This was posted in announcements, but since it is a restoration I wanted to place it here for help and tips.

I am starting my 1st arcade restoration project and it is with a Neo Geo MVS-4 25 cab.

This will be a MAME cab

This probably does belong in the project announcement section.  While you are restoring the cabinet back to it's original look, you aren't doing a true restore of the game.

You'll get more help on the MAME setup in the other section.


Agreed.  Restorations are for actual arcade hardware in 1st generation cabinets.  By that I mean the game that originally came in the cabinet.

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Re: Neo Geo MVS Restoration Project/ side art and control panel
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2008, 01:08:16 pm »
Its in great shape in some places, others not so much.

So now its time to decide to use a sticker on the one damaged SNK logo or use a stencil from ess19 to repaint it.

Here's some pics.

I will be replacing this plastic with some Lexan, but I won't drill holes, I have another idea. Think Dr. Evil...


Scraping the old overlay away.


Lots of goo gone.
You can see some old red and white lines from the original MVS overlay.
It pained me to scrap it.




Taking the crap side art from Special Forces craptastist light gun mega force




Right Side is not so bad, some scratches.


Left Side is not bad until it got to the SNK logo
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Re: Neo Geo MVS Restoration Project
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2008, 04:44:57 am »
Control panel and Marquee
Here are some pics of the CP.. A long way to go. I need to get another wire brush.  Maybe I push to hard and wore down to far to mirror finish. Some parts (curves) were easy, but the flat section was more difficult.

Sunday Start















Once I test this out on some poster board to correct any measurement errors.
Then I'll laser cut the plexi panel.


I'll post this is Corel and Adobe Illustrator format for anyone who has the same close button layout as me.




as you may notice the holes for the joysticks are at 40mm instead of the 50mm that the panel actually has cut. I have the Mag Sticks which don't need alot of throw so I will be cutting the joystick hole in the plexi at 40mm.
(noob mistake that I don't have a mounting plate for the Mag Stick Plus's that fits this MVS Neo Geo mounting screws that are connected to the CP)

I will upload  versions one with 50mm holes if anyone requests it.

also to note the picture shows the bottom and right side line that is used to cut the panel is way off. I corrected that in the Corel and AI files.

my panel layout below:









Just bought [update they arrive, thx Quarter Arcade ]these from quarter arcade. I figured that going original was the best option whenever possible.





These are just sample images (who knows what shape mine will be in) but do you all have a preferred method for restoring these to look shiny and new?

Does anyone have experience with the novus 1,2,3 system and maybe some high grit (1000/2000) sanding of these marquee's.


Below is dimensions of front player art on a MVS-4-25 version 1 in imperial inch format:



let me know if more dimensions are needed!

Just waiting on a overlay (need someone to print one for the close button set!!) and the computer to arrive.

progress update pics from November 11th

the NOS marquee's are beautiful, they just need some Novus plastic polish.






Finished primed panel and sanded smooth. Top coat applied.













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Re: Neo Geo MVS Restoration Project
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2008, 09:24:05 pm »
I have a quick question.  In the picture I've attached, you gave the dimensions for the Left Player arrow.  Is the right player arrow the same size? (width)

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Re: Neo Geo MVS Restoration Project
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2008, 11:22:02 am »
Yes the right side is the same on my cab. I was going to remeasure this in MM if you need that. On the Neo Geo site I have the missing dimensions that I forgot to include on the picture.

How is the new artwork creation going.

Do you have any info on what to print a recreation for the Control Panel Overlay. I know that some websites use flexible polycarbonate but is there something that may be closer to the original. I am trying to find a place here in the USA to make one.

Thanks dude!
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SO the CP install went perfectly and I am very happy with the result.

This weekend is some hardcore time with soldering wires for the marquee lights and the finishing touches. Need to get the TV bezel finished, but at last the finish line is visable!

I want to give out a huge big thank you to everyone here at BYOAC and over at neogeo.com forums.


what a journey from this (Sept 2008):



To now (MVS Boot in Mame32):


CP Overlay installed (Thank you to Todd @ arcadeoverlay.com)


Other angle:


Time to play some games! The MagStik Plus's from Andy at Ultimarc feel great.
Once I get the wiring clean and organized I'll post some pics of his pre-built harness for the Mini-Pac. It was a true plug and play install for it.


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that looks very nice...i'd love to have a neogeo machine, but i just dont have the space for another cabinet......yet:)

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thats a sexy machine. I love the neo-geo cabs, but they always were a little cramped for a big guy like me.

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Sexy Shiny clean and i LOVE the metal work at the cp..... GREAT CAB  :applaud: :applaud:
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More Pics (lit up) Neo Geo MVS Restoration Project
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pics of USB hub install
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2010, 06:39:29 am »
I'll post pics of the new USB round hub install tonight...

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Re: !Update! CP overlay and controls wired up! Neo Geo MVS Restoration Project
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2010, 01:59:35 pm »
Still looking for an MVS credit display?

I'm still not quite sure how to make it work... perhaps a simple RS-232 (serial) port, where you simply send the two digits to display? Ex: "09" or "[space]9".


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Re: !Update! CP overlay and controls wired up! Neo Geo MVS Restoration Project
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2010, 10:52:46 am »
New 4 port USB power hub to cover the hole in my cab (it was converted to a special forces games with lightgun holster) Three ports on the front and one in back.

I just need to figure out how to disable the led light, it is very annoying.







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Re: !Update! CP overlay and controls wired up! Neo Geo MVS Restoration Project
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2010, 12:00:47 pm »
Can't you just use some black electrical tape on that LED?

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Re: !Update! CP overlay and controls wired up! Neo Geo MVS Restoration Project
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2010, 08:47:19 pm »
Can't you just use some black electrical tape on that LED?

or a dab of black nail polish
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Re: !Update! CP overlay and controls wired up! Neo Geo MVS Restoration Project
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2010, 02:41:04 am »
The cabinet is looking good :cheers:

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Re: !Update! CP overlay and controls wired up! Neo Geo MVS Restoration Project
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2010, 09:51:21 am »
i cant wait to start building mine from scratch :)

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Re: !Update! CP overlay and controls wired up! Neo Geo MVS Restoration Project
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2010, 11:27:32 pm »
I have finals right now, so as soon as they are done I can get measurements done.
In the meantime have you scoured the mvs neo geo forums?
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Amazing job ! Your cab looks great !

I'm starting working on a MVS-1-25 project and I would really need to get the original cab's dimensions. I searched the internet for days and I couldn't find anything accurate. Do you think you could provide your cab's dimensions to me ? That would be awesome !

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There's probably a wire going to that LED that can be cut if you want to turn it off instead of covering it.  Cab looks awesome by the way.

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