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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #80 on: March 08, 2009, 11:18:55 pm »
That is such an awesome feeling. Congrats!  :applaud:

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #81 on: March 09, 2009, 11:11:55 am »
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0kWqjDUu7o[/youtube]

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-xa4GYIt0A&feature=related[/youtube]
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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #82 on: March 09, 2009, 11:59:44 am »
Maybe I remember it wrong, but isn't Atari Berzerk rally slow? In that first commercial, it appears to run faster than the arcade! Dare I say it, but was Atari Falsley advertising their gameplay. No....

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #83 on: March 09, 2009, 12:21:59 pm »

That seems the right speed to me... he started off on like level 8, though. 

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #84 on: March 09, 2009, 03:51:49 pm »
Atari 2600 Berzerk totally sucks because of the lacking samples.

Check out the 8-bit homecomputer version......almost 100% arcade port. (Except for the screen freezing during the samples).

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #85 on: March 09, 2009, 04:10:44 pm »
Atari 2600 Berzerk totally sucks because of the lacking samples.


True but the 2600 version is the one I spent whole weekends playing as a kid.  It has a special place in my heart.

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #86 on: March 09, 2009, 04:32:15 pm »
I _so_ know that feeling.

I was looking at a threat about a very nice Burger Time that someone picked up at the KLOV forum and the sounds of BT actually went through my head and how I link them to the place (a cinema) where I used to play it and the time setting in the early 80's. Really zapped me back for a moment :)

Enjoy the Berzerk and great job...


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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #87 on: March 09, 2009, 08:52:33 pm »

So I have the monitor mostly adjusted but can't get hori size right.  The coil just doesn't seem to want to turn.  Looks like it might be melted in place, probably from someone adjusting it in the past with a metal tool.  Anyone know the replacement part?  The monitor manual just lists the WG part number (009A2854-001).


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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #88 on: March 10, 2009, 01:22:19 pm »
Well done resurrecting this!

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« Reply #89 on: March 10, 2009, 02:47:32 pm »
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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #90 on: March 11, 2009, 04:54:45 pm »
This is starting to come along nicely. 

Check out the Berzerk for sale on KLOV.  This is what you should strive for on your restoration.  Best looking Berzerk I ever saw.



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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #91 on: March 11, 2009, 06:28:36 pm »

No doubt on that one.  If you forward a couple pages you'll see I posted.  :)

I'm not so optimistic on finding a CP like the one that guy has... nor of spending the money on the optical stick.  Other than that I should be able to get this thing nice and minty.

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #92 on: March 11, 2009, 08:06:58 pm »
I would like to thank you, ChadTower. My high school Scholastic Bowl (think incredibly diverse jeopardy) team had a match last night in which there was a 4 part bonus of "Classic 1980's Arcade Games". I bout fell out of my chair when this was read as I knew I had it cinched. They gave the manufacturer and a description of 4 games. The first three were easy (Missile Command, Centipede, and Frogger) but the last one was a game manufactured by STERN electronics in 1980 in which you "had to stop the intruder" and something to do with Evil Otto. I didn't know about the rest but I knew about your thread in which Berzerk was a game created by Stern. I would have had no idea if not for this thread. I got all four for 20 points which led to a win for us.
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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #93 on: March 11, 2009, 08:27:13 pm »

Dude, that totally rocks.   :laugh2: :laugh2: :cheers: :cheers:

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #95 on: March 17, 2009, 07:36:01 pm »

The boards from ebay have arrived... they look pretty good.  Battery acid on the ZPUs isn't too bad, only a couple clipped components here and there... strange thing is that one of the ZPUs has a daughterboard I do not recognize.


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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #96 on: March 18, 2009, 02:20:48 pm »
Frenzy ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frenzy_(video_game)#Trivia

Look under Trivia !

That would be a really cool bonus !!! :D
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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #97 on: March 18, 2009, 02:34:19 pm »

Definitely not official Frenzy... best suggestion I've seen so far is bootleg Frenzy.  I'll find out once I start trying to revive the whole thing, I guess.

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #98 on: March 18, 2009, 08:10:10 pm »

Took the speech board I got from ebay and recapped it... popped it in... and it works well.  Speech may be crisper than before but that may be my imagination.  Either way now I have two working speech boards.  I'll recap the first one and store it as a spare.

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #99 on: March 18, 2009, 09:16:29 pm »
I love this freakin' game! Awesome seeing it coming to life!  I want one so stinkin' bad, but I'm completely out of room. 
Happy Gaming!

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #100 on: March 19, 2009, 08:40:59 pm »

Recapped about half the audio board from ebay... ran out of 470uF caps.  I'm running low on lots of caps, and having to use a lot of radials in place of axials, so it's time to order another bulk cap bag.

Interestingly, my son got an "electronics kit" for xmas.  I figured it's the standard build a light circuit with some jumpers and a tiny bulb thing.  It's not!  He whipped it out tonight and it's full of real parts.  Real caps, resistors, transistors, pots, LEDs... hell, I'm sitting here replacing 4.7uF caps on the audio board and he's playing with 4.7uF caps upstairs!   :laugh2: 

Best part is he's actually grasping the concepts faster than I am.  We're going to have to sit down with this thing on sunday and spend some hard time building the projects.  I'll probably learn just as much as he does. 

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #101 on: March 19, 2009, 08:58:24 pm »


Interestingly, my son got an "electronics kit" for xmas.  I figured it's the standard build a light circuit with some jumpers and a tiny bulb thing.  It's not!  He whipped it out tonight and it's full of real parts.  Real caps, resistors, transistors, pots, LEDs... hell, I'm sitting here replacing 4.7uF caps on the audio board and he's playing with 4.7uF caps upstairs!   :laugh2: 


I raided my old circuit kit about a year ago. Probably had $150 worth of resistors and ceramic capacitors. Very few electrolytic though...
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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #102 on: March 20, 2009, 07:36:01 am »
First thing to learn from a kit like that: do not reverse electrolytic caps. Show him wit a really small one. And wear some eye protection.

You know it's going to happen sooner or later.... :D

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #103 on: March 20, 2009, 05:53:24 pm »

Erf, now I'm getting some folding in the top 1/2" of the image... so I guess I have to recap this monitor.  I would swear I did a couple years ago but it's hard to tell now because the chassis got so much basement dust on it.  May as well bite the bullet and do it.  Have to pull it to deal with that width issue anyway.

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #104 on: March 22, 2009, 09:06:33 am »

Have it about half capped and ran out of a couple types of needed caps.  Putting in another bulk cap order from GPE.

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #105 on: March 26, 2009, 10:30:59 am »

GPE didn't come through, put together a bulk cap list from Mouser and posted the Project link in EE for others to use.  Waiting on those.

I was playing it last night and noticed that after like the second level all of the robots are blue.  That can't be right.

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« Reply #106 on: March 26, 2009, 03:36:32 pm »

GPE didn't come through, put together a bulk cap list from Mouser and posted the Project link in EE for others to use.  Waiting on those.

I was playing it last night and noticed that after like the second level all of the robots are blue.  That can't be right.

depends on your board revision number according to wikipedia.

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #107 on: March 26, 2009, 04:02:00 pm »

Interesting... I had missed that.  It is definitely not happening at 20,000 points, though.  It's more like 2000.  And they're dark blue, at least the way the monitor is adjusted right now.

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #108 on: April 01, 2009, 08:06:50 pm »


 :banghead:

Waited a week for the bulk cap order from Mouser to come in... spent the last two nights capping the monitor... now it's dead.  No glow at all.  Just took the chassis out to verify the caps and one was backwards so I took it out and turned it around.  Still dead.


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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #109 on: April 02, 2009, 07:12:34 pm »

Monitor hijinks.

So it's back on now but neither of the problems I had hoped to solve with this cap kit have been solved.

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #110 on: April 02, 2009, 10:44:47 pm »

Recapped the audio board from the Ebay lot and plugged it in... works!  So there's one more Berzerk board brought back to life.   ;D

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #111 on: April 04, 2009, 07:26:19 pm »

Looking at the rest of the boards they are all further from working.  All need the dip banks replaced and I'm going to have to figure out what part to use for that.

Also, if you follow that monitor thread, linked above, you can see that I've discovered the curling in the top inch of the monitor isn't the monitor.  When I decreased vertical size the curling follows the top inch of the game image rather than just curling the top inch of the screen real estate.  That means the signal is the issue and I have to figure out where to go with that.

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #112 on: April 04, 2009, 07:28:17 pm »
Possible sync issue.  Of course you can try the monitor out using another source, see where that gets you.

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« Reply #113 on: April 04, 2009, 07:56:17 pm »

Hrm... not sure I actually have another reasonable source handy.  I might have a signal generator around but I'd have to learn to use it.

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #114 on: April 05, 2009, 09:51:59 am »
What happened to your Neo Geo and your POW?

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #115 on: April 05, 2009, 10:20:25 am »
What happened to your Neo Geo and your POW?


Sold and parted-sold.  We never used the Neo Geo and this is the POW monitor.  POW cab was sold to someone for a MAME setup since it was just a generic Dynamo.

Turns out I have one of these on my shelf.  Guess this is a decent time to figure out how to use it.

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #116 on: April 05, 2009, 11:10:58 am »

HOLY CRAP!

I just went through a couple of boxes of books I picked up from the woman who gave me much of my test equipment.  It's all from her father's TV repair sideline that he had to give up when he got Alzheimers a few years ago.  The bulk of it is from around 1985 backwards and I didn't know much about what I was looking at when I got them so I stashed them until I did.

I'm looking at two good sized boxes of TV schematics, TV analysis and repair guides, what appears to be a whole course of practical TV theory/repair texts (~10 books)... books specifically on TV troubleshooting with an oscilloscope from beginner to advanced techniques... specific manufacturer repair manuals for Zenith, GE, and a few others going back years.  Component cross reference guides from 1976-1986.  Operating manuals for all sorts of test equipment I didn't get from her that should probably get scanned and put on the net. 

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I can get pics of everything for anyone who wants them and might be able to scan stuff with bindings that will allow it.

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« Reply #117 on: April 05, 2009, 11:49:04 am »
Sweet !

That sort of information is definitely getting hard to come by.
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« Reply #118 on: April 05, 2009, 05:38:40 pm »

Stepping aside a bit, looking at the rest of these spare boards, they all have broken dip banks.  Does anyone know of a suitable replacement?  I asked at KLOV and came up dry.

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Re: CHICKEN RESTORE LIKE A ROBOT (Berzerk) *IT LIVES*
« Reply #119 on: April 05, 2009, 08:28:23 pm »

GRRRRR.  Went to work on the monitor issue tonight and now it fails in 4th self test - the color board.  Not patient enough to deal with a NEW problem.  I'm going to watch a movie and eat some ice cream.   :banghead: