European vs US cabs

[Wuditron]

After seeing lots of pics of arcade cabinets, I have come to the following conclusion-

Europeans seem to build stylish cabs, they have small CPs with a few carefully chosen controls.
Americans tend to built huge tank-like cabs with enormous CPs containing every possible control.

1) Is this true or am I imagining it?

2) If I am right, is this the sign of some deep cultural difference?

3) What are cabs built by other nationalities like?

[TOK]

Australian people put the monitors at the bottom.

[NiN^_^NiN]

Well Australian cocktail cabs are a Japanese style

US Style


AUS/Japan Style


Plus more than 90% of the arcade cabs in australia came from 1 company the rest were some dedicated cabs like neo geo SFII etc but Allied and Leisured are what most game came in.

Most remembered would be the lowboy

[RayB]

Just over 30% of Americans are obese. So they NEED to super-size everything.

[Dartful Dodger]

Standing also seems to require too much energy for the average American gamer.

I'd say most American cabs have stool of some kind in front of them.

[Q*Bert_OP]

American cabs are big, bulky, and heavy. Think of the "Midway" style cabinet from the 90s. Showcase cabs? Those beasts are a real to move. Most American arcade cabs today weigh 500+ lbs.

Japanese cabs are almost always sit-down style. They are small, but usually house bigger monitors(29" and up)

European cabs are generally smaller than US upright cabs, but slightly bigger than US cabaret cabs. They also look nicer than US cabs, IMHO.

[RayB]

What about Canadian cabs?

[pinballwizard79]

LOL, nice comments guys, really

Blah blah Americans fat, blah Americans big car, blah blah Americans big arcade.

To play stereotypes I guess all Euros have hot pink joysticks & a 19 inch monitor on their sit down candy cab in their "flat" because small cabs are all they can fit in their Peugeot's as they gossip at tea time about Amy Winehouse.

Build another wall, run from another war, start another IRA, create more abortion pills, find another prince in a Hitler costume, cry about a pro-gun Beatle & make another Harry Potter Movie but for gods sake don't build a large arcade.

Anyway, to quote a wise man:

http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media=MP3S&type=Movies&movie=Team_America_World_Police&quote=americaBLEEPyeah.txt&file=americaBLEEPyeah.mp3

I am not anti Euro at all but I just couldnt let you make more rude comments about Americans.

Sorry

[grantspain]

LOL, nice comments guys, really

Blah blah Americans fat, blah Americans big car, blah blah Americans big arcade.

To play stereotypes I guess all Euros have hot pink joysticks & a 19 inch monitor on their sit down candy cab in their "flat" because small cabs are all they can fit in their Peugeot's as they gossip at tea time about Amy Winehouse.

Build another wall, run from another war, start another IRA, create more abortion pills, find another prince in a Hitler costume, cry about a pro-gun Beatle & make another Harry Potter Movie but for gods sake don't build a large arcade.

Anyway, to quote a wise man:

http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media=MP3S&type=Movies&movie=Team_America_World_Police&quote=americaBLEEPyeah.txt&file=americaBLEEPyeah.mp3

I am not anti Euro at all but I just couldnt let you make more rude comments about Americans.

Sorry

[ark_ader]

Well it comes down to space really and how agreeable your partner is..

I have lived and bought both American and British houses, and the space and size of the rooms differs vastly.  My previous American two story car garage is bigger than my current house in England, and I'm not counting the house or the rest of the property and land.  Probably everything included would represent the entire block I live on.   

Also US houses tend to be single story big, unlike bungalows in the UK, so arcade cabs can be of any size in the US, but you have some constraints in the UK.

My arcade cab in the US was a converted Ikari Warriors, and was bloody heavy, but I could get it into the garage, clean it up, and dolly it into the house without too much difficulty.  If I wanted to get the same machine into my UK house, I would have to take doors off, probably rip wallpaper and get it stuck in the living room door.

I just wallpapered my hall for 2k so I don't see me ripping it any time soon.  But US hallways are bigger and you can move stuff in and out much easier.  Heck I must have house moved over 30 times so far (No BS). 

We don't ship US furniture over anymore. 

So I want a cab over here, but I have size issues to get in.  Also it has to be light as I have to get it upstairs up a narrow staircase (US ones are huge) and sit it in the small bedroom.  I can take it apart like my Ikea furniture, or I can build a small cab.  It would have to be a cabaret, and if you have taken an old cab apart before and tried to put it back together.....

Thus the reason why UK houses have small cabs with small CPs and US ones have monster cabs with huge CPs.  I cannot say that is verbatim for all houses in the UK as I'm sure there are bigger houses down south, but up north our dwellings are smaller.

That's why I like building my sub mini cabs and why I can shift them on Ebay much faster as most of the homes they go to are small.  My mate has a fisherman's cottage.  One room up and two down house.  Getting a monster cab in there would be nigh impossible.  But a sub mini?  Sold!

My next cab is on the same lines.  I have 8x20 inches to spare for a base, a very slim build too.  But if I was back home it would be a 4 player Simpsons cab with trackballs and spinners, flashng lights etc.   

[Level42]

I am not anti Euro at all but I just couldnt let you make more rude comments about Americans.

Sorry

Check your facts, all those comments were made by Americans ! (OK, and one Canadian, but that's the same thing !


Grantspain, ok he looks funny, but that man is responsible for the death of thousands of people. He's not funny.

Ark_ader: UK homes generally have smaller rooms etc. But every country and even region in Europe has different housing.

And I always thought American houses don't have hallways. At least in TV series they never do !

[Hoopz]

And I always thought American houses don't have hallways. At least in TV series they never do !

That's hilarious!

[grantspain]

I am not anti Euro at all but I just couldnt let you make more rude comments about Americans.

Sorry

Check your facts, all those comments were made by Americans ! (OK, and one Canadian, but that's the same thing !


Grantspain, ok he looks funny, but that man is responsible for the death of thousands of people. He's not funny.

Ark_ader: UK homes generally have smaller rooms etc. But every country and even region in Europe has different housing.

And I always thought American houses don't have hallways. At least in TV series they never do !

i think you are missing my point,i do not find him in slightest funny

[Dartful Dodger]

Blah blah Americans fat, blah Americans big car, blah blah Americans big arcade.

I am not anti Euro at all but I just couldnt let you make more rude comments about Americans.

Sorry

Americans are fat and we do drive big cars.

I'm doing my part to change the fat image, but the big cars image I’d like to keep.

[Level42]

I am not anti Euro at all but I just couldnt let you make more rude comments about Americans.

Sorry

Check your facts, all those comments were made by Americans ! (OK, and one Canadian, but that's the same thing !


Grantspain, ok he looks funny, but that man is responsible for the death of thousands of people. He's not funny.

Ark_ader: UK homes generally have smaller rooms etc. But every country and even region in Europe has different housing.

And I always thought American houses don't have hallways. At least in TV series they never do !

i think you are missing my point,i do not find him in slightest funny

OK , glad we agree then.....and I stand corrected... 

[pinballwizard79]

Sorry it took me so long to reply, I was playing my huge showcase arcade in my 3,400sq ft home & then looking at my huge SUV in a 800sq ft 3 car garage & as I ate my fat American food I remembered this thread. 

Anyway, Level 42 I have no idea what your comment of "Grantspain, ok he looks funny, but that man is responsible for the death of thousands of people. He's not funny" even means.

Perhaps you didn't know what my reference was: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=prince%20harry%20hitler&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw

Maybe google will clarify my point.

Anyway, crucify me if you want, I dont care but call Americans fat & lazy, then I care.

Until your people fire a M4 carbine in Somalia, Djibouti or Iraq you better remember what Country & what people do.

If you are American & making those comments why don't you go to Turkey or Albania & try to make nice there.

Whew, no hard feelings from this point on. My goal wasn't to start a fight, it was to defend.

So...um anyone play Galaga lately? 

[ark_ader]

Sorry it took me so long to reply, I was playing my huge showcase arcade in my 3,400sq ft home & then looking at my huge SUV in a 800sq ft 3 car garage & as I ate my fat American food I remembered this thread. 

Anyway, Level 42 I have no idea what your comment of "Grantspain, ok he looks funny, but that man is responsible for the death of thousands of people. He's not funny" even means.

Perhaps you didn't know what my reference was: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=prince%20harry%20hitler&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw

Maybe google will clarify my point.

Anyway, crucify me if you want, I dont care but call Americans fat & lazy, then I care.

Until your people fire a M4 carbine in Somalia, Djibouti or Iraq you better remember what Country & what people do.

If you are American & making those comments why don't you go to Turkey or Albania & try to make nice there.

Whew, no hard feelings from this point on. My goal wasn't to start a fight, it was to defend.

So...um anyone play Galaga lately? 

Heck with those comments, you are letting our side down.  Get with the program buddy:

We live in eco friendly housing, driving hybrid technology, eating organic food we bought from lovely international countries and we love all nations of the world.

The fact that we are more superior, richer, and have respectable ego's should not fall into the equation.  Remember they are ruled by a country we saved from Hitler during the war (Brussels) - they don't know any better.    

I mean have you seen their puny arcade cabs?

It says it all.   

[pinballwizard79]

LOL!

I didnt want to bring up WW2 but I am glad someone did.

Heh, alright though seriously we should call a truce with the Euro vs Us talk in the forums before it gets ugly....er 

[ark_ader]

LOL!

I didnt want to bring up WW2 but I am glad someone did.

Heh, alright though seriously we should call a truce with the Euro vs Us talk in the forums before it gets ugly....er 

I agree, but my post was in jest.

Besides I believe that whatever cab size you plumb for it is based on what expenses you can afford and the space you can put it.

I hate American bashing, but this isn't the case. 

Its fun to have a laugh though. 

[chopps]

What about Canadian cabs?

carved from ice?    

 

[Samstag]

My cab is 24" wide, including the control panel.  I guess I could hang an aircraft carrier on it to fit in, but perhaps I'm not the only American who enjoys a cab that doesn't try to do everything at once?

We do tend to have a lot more elbow room in our houses than what i typically see in Europe, so I'm sure that has a little to do with the difference.

[protokatie]

What about Canadian cabs?

carved from ice?    

 

Nah, Kraft Dinner and Poutine! Hmm... Been awhile since I had the poutine from my region... Mmmmm, Poutine!

Wow, that went onto a tangent!

[pinballwizard79]

Hey look American haters, I put a few LED's in my pinball machine.

Aaaaaaaaahmerica!

F yeah!

LOL, I couldn't resist, sorry guys 

HAHA, FYI: I am 3rd generation German so I am 1/3 "euro" so to say & know what its like to hear my grandparents argue in a foreign language.

So I have international immunity right?

Heh, I really do like this place sometimes.

[protokatie]

HAHA, FYI: I am 3rd generation German so I am 1/3 "euro" so to say & know what its like to hear my grandparents argue in a foreign language.

Umm... Huh? Most 1st "gens" that move to the US (while children or are here for 10+ years) end up being "just Americans"... Hell there is this British girl who moved here (the town I live in) 5 years ago, she still has UK citizenship, but now speaks in an American accent and has admitted she would feel like she were a foreigner in the UK if she went there now. If this can happen in a mere 5 years to someone BORN in another country, then how can you argue that you are "1/3 "Euro"" just because your grandparents argue in German???

Not trying to piss you off, but you are not 1/3 "Euro"... You are American, and this definition includes relatives that were born in other countries.


BTW the girl I meantioned was 13 when she moved here, so she wasnt a really little kid.

[pinballwizard79]

Nah, it doesn't upset me man because you are mostly right.

My father & I are Americans & we are very proud of it. But my grandfather was proud of where he came from & would always tell us stories......the beer & food was pretty good too (simple but that was just a sign of his times mind you). So remember, these things are embedded in your mind as you grow up.

Being an American is living with all cultures & never forgetting why or how your own family became American. We all take pride in both where we are & where our families came from.

I know a Russian girl who has lived here for 10+ years & trust me, she is Russian & certainly feels like it. Her daughter will sense that fact as will her granddaughter & if she lives long enough so will her great granddaughter.

After that generation however I imagine it will fade, shame really if you ask me because I find those things important.

Thats my 3 cents  If you leave where you are from & in just 5 years you forget..............well that speaks a lot about you.

[RayB]

Facts are not stereotypes:
http://www.professorshouse.com/family/health/percent-obese-americans.aspx

30.2%  ouch!

[M.Lanza]

From shopping at walmart, I would think that it's more like 75 to 80%.

I think that the 30% figure represents those who are morbidly obese.

Or maybe fat people just perfer to shop at walmart.

[pinballwizard79]

"Walmart" attracts its own kind of people, "Whole Foods" has a different group etc, etc & etc.

Income levels play a huge part in obesity rates here in the US because cheaper food is higher in fat, sugar & salt usually.

But in other countries low income people just die of starvation, now that's a real pitty.

I'd rather be fat than a skinny refugee any day.

http://www.gsk.com/media/pressreleases/2008/2008_pressrelease_10050.htm

We can spin this around all day from obesity, leadership to education. Every ethnicity/country has it faults & google can find them quickly thus resulting in a never ending thread of bashing if its so desired. My replies were due to snobbish remarks towards Americans & I see its still taking place.

Blah blah blah, time to move on.

[CheffoJeffo]

Every ethnicity/country has it faults & google can find them quickly thus resulting in a never ending thread of bashing if its so desired. My replies were due to snobbish remarks towards Americans & I see its still taking place.

I just read this thread from start to finish and the only bashing taking place is being done by you ... unless you count RayB's obesity remark, which was factual and somewhat funny.

[ark_ader]

Every ethnicity/country has it faults & google can find them quickly thus resulting in a never ending thread of bashing if its so desired. My replies were due to snobbish remarks towards Americans & I see its still taking place.

I just read this thread from start to finish and the only bashing taking place is being done by you ... unless you count RayB's obesity remark, which was factual and somewhat funny.

No he is not bashing, just working the issue uniquely.

I think we are ALL inherit a way to view others.

I was reading about how the doctors thought Dr. Atkins was off his head.  But after some serious research they found out that Atkins was on to something.  Americans eat primarily whats offered to them, and most diets made people obese.  I'm sure if they were told to eat more fat and less sugar, the comment Fat Americans would fade away.  I used to work at Wal-mart.  Everyone shops there because of the savings, not the generalisations seen on this thread.  Man they do take a lot of money!

There again you might need a nice big CP to rest your beer belly on! Who knows?   

[pinballwizard79]

CheffoJeffo, really?

I am somehow capable of understanding the complexities of string theory, the elusive issues of singularity & even particle duality but unable to to correctly interpret remarks such as "My people's lack of style, obesity & the need for stools due to not having energy" as the compliments they are.

So sorry man my bad, I was totally unprovoked, really.

Anyway....................

Do we really need to keep rehashing this or did we all learn that by making rude comments someone will chime in with a rebuttal & return stab?

[CheffoJeffo]

Do we really need to keep rehashing this or did we all learn that by making rude comments someone will chime in with a rebuttal & return stab?

Apparently *you* need to keep rehashing this ...

I missed the part where you either rebutted or stabbed those responsible for making rude comments -- I'll give you credit for laying into the Irish, French, Austrian, German, British, Somali, Djibouti, Iraqi, Turkish and Albanian, but, by my count, the folks who offended you are all Canadian or American.

Good shooting -- mission accomplished(tm).

 

If anybody has a right to be pissed about this thread, it's the Australians, but that's the only way Bones can see the monitor.

 

[pinballwizard79]

Yeah I could have replied in a more tactful manner for sure.

Next time I will just send a PM & say "hey man not cool" instead of an open post offending those not involved.

I did tell the traitors to go elsewhere though & you have to admit I did put up a good fight.

Lets call it a truce, I am all out of European jokes anyway 

[CheffoJeffo]

I did tell the traitors to go elsewhere though & you have to admit I did put up a good fight.

Lets call it a truce, I am all out of European jokes anyway 

You did fight a tenacious fight ... against people who were completely innocent of the crime in question.

Maybe i just feel left out -- surely you have at least one Canadian joke in your arsenal.

 

 

[pinballwizard79]

Well you guys did come down here once & set a few of our building timbers on fire so maybe I dig deep.....wait....wait.....I think I.......I sense a animal that lives in the water with many legs & arms may have bearing....

Nah, I am not letting you set me up.