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Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« on: March 02, 2008, 03:18:29 pm »
Hello wizards of wiki
I wanted to point out that on this Main Forum thread
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=77252.0
We have been discussing creating a wiki page that lists thumbnails of each cab...in fact started making changes to the Cocktail cabinets index
http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Cocktail_cabinets
It looks like performance will be ok even for the humungo Upright list, agree???

Also how did so these wiki entries get created without images? I wish it was kosher for us to just archive images from the links provided.

Anyway, just wanted to bring this discussion to the correct forum

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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2008, 03:39:27 pm »
I like the no image pic, but I wish more wiki entries had pics on the site

FWIW, a two column table was suggested, so I put a sample of what that looks like in the wiki discussion page
http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Talk:Cocktail_cabinets
Seems like a good use of space to me, but then it would be hard to keep the list alphabetical


As for pics, I'm finding a lot of entries that go nowhere, and have no information really. I'm updating links where I can find corrected ones (even searching The WayBack Machine for images), but I have not dealt with dead-links at all, yet. (Not sure of protocol)

I'm uploading the 'noimage.jpg' pic into each project page, so if the image is updated (down the road) in their project page (by just uploading over the black image), the thumbnail will automatically be updated as well, since it pulls the filename from their project. Just a heads up.

As for the two column layout, I think it certainly looks nice, but as you say, it will complicate the listing process...and from my perspective, anything that makes the upkeep/updating of the wiki difficult, the less likely people are to add to it in the future, unfortunately.

I'm all for keeping it simple, even if it's not the most beautiful approach.

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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2008, 03:48:03 pm »
Thought about it a bit more...

What about splitting the Upright Cabinet page into two (or more) separate alphabetically organized subpages, ie:

Upright Cabs - #-M
Upright Cabs - N-Z


Just a thought...
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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2008, 04:39:22 pm »
We should probably move the "no image" ones to the dead links section.
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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2008, 04:58:30 pm »
Eventually...   ;D

Also note, for those of you adding images...I suggest we keep them all horizontal (landscape) in nature, so the thumbnails all look similar. I'm editing some of them in Photoshop in order to keep the format the same.

Not a huge extra step, and the end result looks nice. I think.

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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2008, 05:22:55 pm »
Good idea on the landscape pics!

 I noticed in the wiki that the wayback links I put in don't work this way
[http://web.archive.org/web/20060131022333/http://www.vader88.com/adepot.html]
 ...but if you put them like this they do work

[http://web.archive.org/web/20060131022333/http://www.vader88.com/adepot.html Via the Wayback Machine]

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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2008, 06:01:11 pm »
Gah! Then I'll have to go back and correct my 'Wayback' links. Thanks for the heads up.

Btw, awesome job, we're almost ready to meet in the middle of the cab listing!   :cheers:

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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2008, 06:22:10 pm »
Thought about it a bit more...

What about splitting the Upright Cabinet page into two (or more) separate alphabetically organized subpages, ie:

Upright Cabs - #-M
Upright Cabs - N-Z


Just a thought...
mrC

Yep, I agree on this:
The pics for uprights will probably have to be portrait orientation though

Thanks for working on this, it looks good!

I'm done for today tho :-)

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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2008, 06:30:29 pm »
Agreed. Uprights = Portrait.
Well, we blasted through that section, only thousands more to go!  ;)

I'm done today as well, I'll start other sections as time permits.

 :cheers: - Thanks for inspiring this process. It'll be nice to get this done.

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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2008, 08:26:22 pm »
Before you nuke any due to being gone, please make me a list so I can look to see if I have a mirror. Kudos for the work guys!
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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2008, 08:55:59 pm »
AFAIK, nothing has been nuked..all dead links for the Cocktail section (the major section we edited today) were placed at the bottom of the page:
http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Cocktail_cabinets  (scroll down to " Outdated or dead links")


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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2008, 08:57:56 pm »
BTW, there seems to be an issue with the Countertop section (http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Bartop/Countertop)
I can't seem to save any changes, and there appears to be an error at the top of the page:

Notice: Undefined offset: -1 in /www/html/wiki.arcadecontrols.com/w/languages/Language.php on line 2329

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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2008, 09:00:19 pm »
Before you nuke any due to being gone, please make me a list so I can look to see if I have a mirror. Kudos for the work guys!

Thanks Saint!

Yep, "No Nukes" thus far

In fact the wayback machine found many of the sites, so now at least we have a pic of each machine in the wiki and clickable links to that info for as long as it is available

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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2008, 01:08:15 am »
Excuse my dumbness but how does one submit a machinel to the wiki list?

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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2008, 09:08:55 am »
Excuse my dumbness but how does one submit a machinel to the wiki list?

1 Log in to the wiki with the same id/password as the forum
2 "Create" a new wiki page by simply naming it...start with this url
http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/anewcabinet
and while still in the location field of the webbrowser, replace "anewcabinet" with the name of your cabinet
4 A new blank page will appear
4 Click the Edit tab
5 Paste in the guts of the page...here is a template for the cocktail cabinets (just paste it in)

* '''Project Type:''' Cocktail Arcade Cabinet
* '''Construction Method:''' Scratchbuilt
* '''Monitor Type:''' Unclassified
* '''Interface Type:''' Keyboard Hack
* '''Special Controls:'''
* '''OS:''' Windows
* '''Homepage:''' http://

<br style="clear:both;"/>
== Additional Details ==

<br style="clear:both;"/>
== Pictures ==
[[image:mycab.jpg]]

<br style="clear:both;"/>

[[Cocktail_cabinets|Back to Cocktail Cabinet Examples]]

[[Category:Examples]]

6 Use the upload button to upload an image
7 Update the Index page to link to your new page (just click the edit button and follow the examples (list in alpha order)

More help on editing the wiki is found here
http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Community_Portal


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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2008, 11:19:48 am »

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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2008, 11:35:51 am »
Note: on the thumbnails, if we want them to be similar in size throughout the site:

90px for Landscape (horizontal)
68px for Portrait (Vertical)

I noticed when I used 90px on a portrait thumbnail, the vert size was 120px.

Should we lock down a standard size on these yet? I think 120px (H) is probably too big for the Upright section, since there's so many example. See the Jukebox thumbs as an example (they're 120px tall)

Let me know,
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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2008, 02:08:22 pm »
Note: on the thumbnails, if we want them to be similar in size throughout the site:

90px for Landscape (horizontal)
68px for Portrait (Vertical)

I noticed when I used 90px on a portrait thumbnail, the vert size was 120px.

Should we lock down a standard size on these yet? I think 120px (H) is probably too big for the Upright section, since there's so many example. See the Jukebox thumbs as an example (they're 120px tall)

Let me know,
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Good idea...Ok, by me
On this page I found a mixture of 50px and 70px
http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/Upright_cabinets
(so I changed em)

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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2008, 07:22:48 am »
Yeah, I did that when I was doing the hall of fame cabs. I was kind of wondering why different images were showing up different sizes. I guess I can go back and change them to 90/68.
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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2008, 09:02:35 am »
I added a alpa table of contents to the Upright cabinets index. This may not be the way we want it in the final form, but for now I think it makes it is easier to navigate around when adding image. Agree?

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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2008, 08:21:56 am »
I havent in the wiki in a bit while, but have noticed the tumpnails (hence I havent see that issue last month about the edit).

Great Work, only the layout might suffer little bit, but dont worry anything like this.

I look on that when all picutres is uploaded in the Upright section.

... and yes the Upright Example 2 is NOT in the list, since I never have submitted the project (it mine cab which I brought and just converted to MAME).


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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2008, 04:41:28 pm »
I havent in the wiki in a bit while, but have noticed the tumpnails (hence I havent see that issue last month about the edit).

Great Work, only the layout might suffer little bit, but dont worry anything like this.

I look on that when all picutres is uploaded in the Upright section.

... and yes the Upright Example 2 is NOT in the list, since I never have submitted the project (it mine cab which I brought and just converted to MAME).

Thanks for noticing Space!
Yep, Mr.Curmudgeon and I had a race one day updating the Cocktail cabinets page, it was fun!  We left the big job of Upright cabs to finish over time...running out of energy to work on that one, but as you see we have made some worthwhile progress.
I agree, once we get the data in there we might clean up the layout a bit.
You bring up a good point, the examples should probably link to the articles about those examples and not just their pictures. Is just Example 2 yours, what is the cabinets name? We can create an entry for it in the table.
Perhaps we should have 3 examples that are more unique examples of uprights...say a restoration looking cab, a cab with a massive 4 player like ultra arcade, and an LCD monitor arcarde?
any thoughts?

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Re: Wiki question - thumbs on cab index page?
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2008, 04:38:03 am »
It's ok for me, if you change them. it actuelly a good idea to show more unique cabs in the 3 top examples. I think do they really need these 3 examples now? I think no, since there is now thumpnails on nearly all cabs now.

Also all data was auto submitted for a year ago by a bot I created, after some help with a other user, and I actuelly got the example database (which I think is now quite old).

I look in the layout when it finsished, and I do still want it easy for others to add thier cabs, so I dosent want to use complicered tags for that.

For my cabinet, it have no name, and I have never submitted to arcadecontrols. Instead it was submitted to a danish forum site. It just a simple Jamma converted cabinet, so no speciel. That can been why I never submitted and it dosent show anyway.

If you still want a indepth page, I can do update that with the correct data and homepage.





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