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Re: Remote control for my jukebox cabinet .... possible?
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2008, 10:18:45 pm »
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Anyway, I registered my ATI Remote Wonder Plus remote control and I can now map it with anything and it works great.

unclet:
That's the way to go!

Gotta say that not only is the ATI RW a great remote, but the PCRC makes it so much better. And, come on, with PCRC almost any remote/receiver combination could be an universal PC remote... (Yeah, I'm REALLY happy with it :) ..) Two entirely different remotes = one happy customer  ;D

And the beauty of PCRC with any supported remote: You'll be able to control more or less all your software with only one remote controller. Considering the options, it should be double the current price (Hope the author won't be reading this...)

PS. If you use the ATI RW, be sure to check out this site too: http://remotew.free.fr/index.htm

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Re: Remote control for my jukebox cabinet .... possible?
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2008, 10:38:11 pm »
Yes, I am very happy as well ...... thanks for all your help   :cheers:

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Re: Remote control for my jukebox cabinet .... possible?
« Reply #42 on: February 09, 2008, 02:33:26 am »
unclet & psychotech,
  It's late and I skimmed over some of this post (I'll re-read it tomorrow morning), but can you summarize what Hardware and Software you used to get this to work?
an ATI Remote Wonder Plus and PCRC receiver? (who makes the receiver?)
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Re: Remote control for my jukebox cabinet .... possible?
« Reply #43 on: February 09, 2008, 08:31:06 am »
ATI makes three "wonder" remotes (Wonder, Wonder II and Wonder Plus).  I bought the Wonder Plus.  This package contains the remote control (which uses a couple of batteries) as well as the receiver part which connects to the PC.   Once you install the software for this remote you can use it to control certain applications on your PC.  It also comes with 6 programmable buttons on the remote (A,B,C,D,E,F) which can be mapped to keyboard keys to let you do whatever you want.  If this is all you want then just use the remote as is and you will be fine.

Now, I wanted to take it one step further.  I wanted to use the ATI remote to control my own jukebox software and wanted to use the "real" remote buttons like play, pause, volumeUp, volumeDown. numeric buttons, etc... etc...   Basically, I did not want to use the A,B,C,D,E,F button keys because who in the world is going to know what these buttons represent and also I needed more than just 6 programmable buttons as well.  This is where the "PC Remote Control (PCRC)" application comes in .......

The PCRC is an application which you can download and install on your PC which will intercept the ATI remote control signals after they come into the receiver and will then change them to keyboard key presses which you previously assigned.

So, you will need to first install the ATI Remote Wonder Plus software and then install the PCRC software.  Then following the instructions in this post to configure both and it should work fine.

Things to note:

1) You will need to register to PCRC software or you will only be able to map 4 buttons and this will expire in 30 days.

2) When you install the ATI Remote Wonder Plus software it allows you to install the "Install" package or the "Remote Wonder" package.   I only installed the "Remote Wonder" package.   The "Install" package will install all the "ATI Catalyst Multimedia Center" application stuff on your computer but since I did not need any of that, I did not install it.

Here is my personal notes I took indicating all the steps you need to do perform to install eveything to work with my jukebox software:

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1) Put "ATI Remote Wonder" Install disk into drive.  There will be a choices to select "Install" and "Remote Wonder".  Choose to install "Remote Wonder" only since I do not need the Catalyst MultiMedia software package, I just need the basic drivers and stuff to make the remote control work.

2) Goto "http://www.pcremotecontrol.com/software/pcrcsoft.htm" to download the PCRC software.  Execute the "PCRemoteControl4Setup_213.exe" file to install the "PC Remote Control" application.  Use crack file to register it.

3) From the PCRC install directory, copy the file "ATIRWPlugin.dll" plugin file into the ATI Remote Wonder's plug-ins folder.

4) Open the ATI Remote Wonder's application by clicking on the icon in the task bar and on the PlugIn's tab, click the "Import" button and import the "ATIRWPlugin.dll" plugin file.  Then press "Configure" button to obtain the values required for to be set in the PCRC application.

   Example:  Values are equal with tolerance = 0
                    Timeout after recognition       = 550

5) Go into "File/Settings" menu and set the following, then do File/Save:

   Recognition Tab
     Set the recognition parameters as indicated in (4) above

   General Tab
     check "Launch on Windows Startup"
     check "Load minimized on Tray"

   Origin of Control
     uncheck "Serial Port" (since we are not using this interface)

6) Start "UncleTs Jukebox" application so the window is an active window on the desktop

7) In PCRC, open the "Actual layout" dialog by clicking on the "..." button

8 ) Search for the main "UncleTs Jukebox" application window which is listed, click "Add to layouts" button and then click "Accept" button. 

9) Back in the main PCRC screen, select the "UncleTs Jukebox" from the list of "Actual layouts"

10) Import the "ATI Remote Wonder" remote commands by selecting the following existing file located in the "File/Import Commands" menu:

      "C:\Program Files\PCRC\Examples\ATI Remote Wonder.pcr"

    This should populate the "Remote commands" section with a list of all command buttons (play, pause, volumeUp, etc...) on the ATI Remote Wonder remote control which are available to be mapped.

11) In the "Execute Action" section, click the NEW button and create a new "Action name" (ex: "Play")

12) Activate the "Play" entry which is listed in the "Remote commands" list by clicking the "Play" command (or by simply pushing the play button on the ATI Remote Wonder remote control)

13) Drag the "Play" list entry from the "Remote commands" list into the "Trigger commands" listbox.

14) Select the "Actions list" tab and click on NEW button. 

    Note: This will allow to map a key to the remote control "Play" button

15) In the "Details" section, select "Particular key(s)", put the cursor in the textbox to the right of it and press a key from the keyboard to be associated with the "Play" remote control button.

16) Click ACCEPT button.

17) Repeat steps (11 thru 16) for each new remote control mapping required

18) Select "File/Save" to save all changes

19) Click "RUN!" button to start the PCRC software and confirm all mappings

Hope this helps
« Last Edit: February 09, 2008, 08:38:42 am by unclet »

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Re: Remote control for my jukebox cabinet .... possible?
« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2008, 02:54:30 pm »
Hey Guys,

Got a problem! I got my new remotes and downloaded all the software I needed, PCRC and ATI Remote Wonder. The ATI Remote Wonder software I downloaded did not have the option for installing Catalyst like what was listed in the directions above. Got everything installed PCRC installed fine but ATI Remote Wonder installed but gave me a ATIRW.dll failed to initialize. I copied and moved the ATIRW.dll to the windows system32 folder and reset the computer. After resetting the computer I got ATIRW.exe application failed to start MFC71.dll not found. I did a search on C: drive where everything including XP is installed and couldn't find the file. What do I need to do next and where can I find MFC71.dll?

Thanks,
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Re: Remote control for my jukebox cabinet .... possible?
« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2008, 08:26:05 am »
I believe there are three different kinds of "Remote Wonder" remote controls ...... (Remote Wonder, Remote Wonder II and Remote Wonder Plus).    I got the "Remote Wonder Plus" and that came with a diskette which allowed me to install the basic drivers only (by selecting the "Install" option) or installing the full multimedia Catalyst package (by selecting the "Remote Wonder" option).   I did NOT install the multimedia Catalyst package since I only wanted the basic drivers. 

I did a search on my computer for the two files and this is what I found:

 C:\Program Files\ATI Multimedia\RemCtrl\ATIRW.dll
 C:\WINDOWS\system32\MFC71.dll

I attached the MFC71.dll file which I have installed (in the above location), but please USE AT YOUR OWN RISK since I have no idea what version of the ATI Remote software you have and whether other DLLs might exist for that version or not.

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« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2008, 11:54:22 am »
Thanks UncleT! I will give that a try! Yes I have the remote wonder plus also but it did not come with the disk. I downloaded software from ATI's website.

Kevin

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« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2008, 12:44:05 pm »
Ok I started through the setup and I must not have the correct ATI program because it doesn't give me the file option or the tabs you have listed in you setup description. At the top of the screen it says remote wonder and nothing about remote wonder plus.

Can someone send me the file via email?

Thanks,
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« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2008, 02:31:00 pm »
Ok I have made some progress but for some reason I can't get any range. I am lucky to get outside the room where my juke is.

What is typical range on these?

Thanks,
Kevin

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« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2008, 04:19:08 pm »
I can get about 50 feet with no walls in the way or about 35 feet with a couple of drywalls in the way.  Take the piece which connects to your computer via the USB cable and bring it outside of your cabinet and see if the range improves.  I got a six foot USB cable so I can rest this piece on top of my cabinet since it gives better results.

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« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2008, 04:52:54 pm »
UncleT,

Yes I moved the reciever about 3 feet away from the jukebox and it was alot better. I may just add some wire on to the antenna or put the reciever somewhere else in relationship to the juke. I am running a monitor and pretty good size speakers in my cab and could be a problem. I even had it setting on top and still had problems but once I moved it away it is alot better.

I do have a question, I am using Volume Touch which uses ctrl, shift and up and down keyboard buttons for volume control. I then have my ipac programmed for this and I don't use the volume on SK and it stays on 100% volume all the time. The reason I do this is some my lighting has a continues volume to the lights at all times even when changing the main volume on the computer. The problem is when I setup pcrc for control of ctrl, shift and up or down it will not work. It would be nice to have that option and for now I ave just set it up for Sk's volume. Which I guess is ok since if i'm out of the room i'm not going to see the lights anyway.

There is one thing that needs added to your instructions that I had a problem with in step 5.

I had to open pcrc which is not mentioned.

5) Go into "File/Settings" menu and set the following, then do File/Save:

   Recognition Tab
     Set the recognition parameters as indicated in (4) above

   General Tab
     check "Launch on Windows Startup"
     check "Load minimized on Tray"

   Origin of Control
     uncheck "Serial Port" (since we are not using this interface)

Other than that fantastic instructions!

Kevin



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Re: Remote control for my jukebox cabinet .... possible?
« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2008, 05:29:57 pm »
I just programmed mine to work with some other keyboard keys .... I do not think I use it for Ctrl and Shift keys ...

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Re: Remote control for my jukebox cabinet .... possible?
« Reply #52 on: April 13, 2008, 07:30:59 pm »
Ok I have made some progress but for some reason I can't get any range. I am lucky to get outside the room where my juke is.

What is typical range on these?

I have the Remote Wonder II. It has worked from far away when I first tested it but I noticed sometimes even when I am close to the receiver it wont respond to my button presses. I found that when holding the remote parallel to the ceiling, pointing the the remote at the antenna, it usually will not respond. If I hold the remote pointing at the ceiling(parallel to antenna) it works 100% of the time. Maybe this is just something with my environment. It's kind of odd pointing it up because I want to point it at the device as if it's an IR remote.



At this point it doesn't really matter since you guys are all setup with PCRC, but was just wondering why I did not see anyone mention the ATI Remote Wonder plugin SDK. Is there a specific reason that was avoided or were you just unaware of it?
Also it looks like the Remote Wonder Key Factory plugin does what you wanted, or is it missing some features?

Someone else already mentioned it but http://remotew.free.fr/ is a really good site for Remote Wonder plugins, etc.

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Re: Remote control for my jukebox cabinet .... possible?
« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2008, 09:17:25 am »
Look what I found the other day:

http://www.salling.com/Clicker/mac/

(Yes there also is a Windows version).

Enables you to remote control about everything on your Mac (/PC) with your phone through Bluetooth.

I downloaded the demo and had it running in seconds ! You get playlists on the phone from iTunes (or WMP) and even the image you connected to that song ! It's like you have an iPod in your hands that remotely controls your Mac/PC !!!

It will also let you put the Mac in sleepmode f.i. But you can even control Frontrow, or even the mouse.

Also works brilliantly with Keynote (PowerPoint) !
 
After trying it for 5 minutes I bought a license...this is just amazing IMHO.

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Re: Remote control for my jukebox cabinet .... possible?
« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2008, 09:52:40 am »
Hmmm but can it work with any of the jukebox solutions?

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« Reply #55 on: April 14, 2008, 11:12:24 am »
You can write your own scripts for it, so it should be possible yes.

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« Reply #56 on: April 14, 2008, 12:26:11 pm »
But can those scripts integrate with playlists on any other juke software?

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« Reply #57 on: April 14, 2008, 05:35:22 pm »
I'm not a software developer, but seeing that you can do all those things, it should be possible to integrate it into any other software.

There's a forum on the site of the developer....

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« Reply #58 on: April 14, 2008, 10:53:40 pm »
Look what I found the other day:

http://www.salling.com/Clicker/mac/

Someone mentioned that program on the first page of this thread and someone else mentioned you can use it with a PDA.

I guess they didn't really like that solution because nobody really responded to it.

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« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2008, 09:49:36 pm »
I hate to be the last one to a party, but I missed this thread. 

I have been using sk jukebox because I like the simple interface and I plan on geting a touchscreen for parties! :cheers:  Anyway, I needed a way to change the song from across the room when someone picked something stupid.  I have always had a remote wonder since my all-in-wonder video card.  Long story a little shorter, I found FREE software to map any of the keys on the remote wonder to keyboard shortcuts and it works great.

http://rwkeymaster.sourceforge.net/

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« Reply #60 on: April 16, 2008, 01:57:00 pm »
But can those scripts integrate with playlists on any other juke software?

Here's a script (for the Mac):

http://www.vanmaanen.org/hans/diversen/clicker/index.html

Push the arrow keys (and Home, and
End, and Page-down and the Space bar!)
in any application with your phone.

Think that should be enough for most Jukebox software ? At least it shows that it's possible. Not sure about Windowz though....
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