HELP! arcade VGA Refresh rate problems!

[JKD The Lad]

so I just unpacked my brand new 27 inch betson multi sync and my arcade VGA card.
I first installed my betson monitor and it ran great on my old radeon video card.
the games looked great.
Next I pulled out my arcade VGA and installed it. When starting up the monitor made a HORRIBLE high pitched scream and the monitor was warped and flickered like mad.  I quickly grabbed the  CD that came with my video card and installed everything step by step the way andy dictated here: http://www.ultimarc.com/avgainst.html I downloaded and ran the program to uninstall any previous drivers, I then fist intalled the driver and then the control pannel. nither fixed my problem.
I went into advanced setting for the video preferences and found the refresh rate was set to 200 hz!!
I found that changing to 60 hrz(how I was running the monitor before I installed the vga card) fixed nothing. I have to change to run the monitor 47 or 56 in order to stop the flicker and noise.

the monitor now makes a annoying buzzing sound, the scanlines are gon and the screen looks poor and shakes slightly.
to make matters worse when ever I start up the computer It starts at 200 refresh and only changes back when windows loads.

If I change the resolution at all the monitor goes back to 200Hz  and the screen gets all out of wack
somebody please help me!
I dont know if I can stand this noise much longer  I may have to just reinstall my old driver and software If this goes on any longer.

[Silver]

Just checking: Are you plugging the monitor into the correct port on the ArcadeVGA? (The VGA D-sub, not the DVI I think). i.e. the one designated for Arcade monitors....?

[JKD The Lad]

yea Its plugged into the correct port.

[Silver]

I'd email Andy at Ultimarc ASAP. He's very friendly and helpful.

Something sounds very wrong if the AVGA is kicking out high refreshs.... normal gfx cards kick out around 120Hz refresh rates for BIOS screens if I recall (e.g. 320x240@120Hz is around 31Khz line-sync) - which is exactly what the AVGA is meant not to do....

[JKD The Lad]

thanks, I'll make sure to contact him.

[JKD The Lad]

ok I talked to andy and he had no Idea how I could fix my problem.
I ended up paying to have it shipped back and have him ship me a new one.
and guess what? The thing still doesn't work !  This is driving me nuts.
I have no Idea why I'm having these problems. My only guess is its something to do with me installing xp lite beast edition.
Does anyone have any Ideas as to what I'm doing wrong?

[SailorSat]

@JKD: Hm... May it be you have a DELL motherboard?
Also try to uninstall any ATI drivers and reinstall the ArcadeVGA drivers, maybe something left by your radeon card.
You could also try to install the ATI Control Panel from the AVGA CD, and limit your monitor to 60Hz (which it should be anyway).

@Silver: BIOS Screens are 640x400 @70Hz or 640x480 @60Hz. Normal VGA cards will output 320x240 doublescanned (320x480) at 60Hz.

So even if your system outputs 31kHz on boot, your multisync should handle like it did with the radeon.

[JKD The Lad]

I already set the limit to 60 Hz in the advance menu and I made sure to do all the instaling and uninstaling correctly.
and no I don't have a dell motherboard. 
I really am stumped. 

[SailorSat]

Hm...
Maybe the Monitor is damaged and doesn't switch to 15kHz?
Could you try the AVGA in another system? BIOS screens should show up in 15kHz already.

[Avrus]

I had a similar problem until I installed the latest Avga drivers.   Not the squealing but the shaking and such.

I was running it in Vista btw.  As soon as the new drivers were installed - problem solved.

[JKD The Lad]

@SailorSat :
I was thinking that myself but Its going to be a pain to test the avga on another system.
I ride the bus everywhere and I dont have a spare computer that I can istall it in. I guess I'll have to build the control pannels first and then use them to bate a friend to drive over with his computer.
It might take a while for me to arange that so untill then I'm going to look for another solution.
@ Avrus :
latest avga drivers?
you mean there are more recent drivers to install other than the ones found on the cd?
Is this something I need to grab from the microsoft website or andys page?

[Ummon]

I've been watching this for a while and wanted to see what Andy would say. I'm surprised he didn't happen to mention to install the tri-sync utility? As for the sqeal, welcome to the club. It's funny people seriously sketch on this, but it's a well-documented, or at least well-talked-about, phenomenon. Doesn't happen on everybody's, but it happens on mine. Anyways, hopefully your real problem is you haven't installed the tri-sync utility.

[JKD The Lad]

yeah I just checked andys website and found the tri-sync utility. I have yet to download that!
I'll have to try it out when I get home!

[ahofle]

I've been watching this for a while and wanted to see what Andy would say. I'm surprised he didn't happen to mention to install the tri-sync utility?

All the multi-sync patch does is add some additional EGA and VGA resolutions (replacing the interlaced VGA and SVGA modes).  It will most likely not help, but it certainly couldn't hurt.

[JKD The Lad]

IT WORKS!
I installed the tri-sync utility and the flickering and shaking went away!
well at least after windows boots up.
during boot up the computer still makes that irritating noise and shakes, when I change to particularly low resolutions I can hear the noise but fortunately the monitor otherwise seems stable.
The constant beep is so high pitched It seems aside from the dogs I'm the only one in the house who can hear it. I dont  think I'll mind so much playing some lower rez arcade games as I actually remember the monitors from older games making this noise it just was barely audible with the rest of the noise in the arcade.

for anyone curious Ive noticed that the lower I go in resolution the louder the sound seems to get.
at 640 a low hum to a very loud and almost painfull screech at 240.


so right now what I have left to do is
figure out how to get the bios to boot up with the right frequency

Thanks for the help guys!
and by the way nice 5:55:55pm get ahofle!

[Avrus]

@SailorSat :
I was thinking that myself but Its going to be a pain to test the avga on another system.
I ride the bus everywhere and I dont have a spare computer that I can istall it in. I guess I'll have to build the control pannels first and then use them to bate a friend to drive over with his computer.
It might take a while for me to arange that so untill then I'm going to look for another solution.
@ Avrus :
latest avga drivers?
you mean there are more recent drivers to install other than the ones found on the cd?
Is this something I need to grab from the microsoft website or andys page?

For whatever reason the latest link isn't on the webpage you'll have to get Andy to email you the link.  Like I said all that wavy weird crappy problems went away.

[ahofle]

Wow that's bizarre.  I wonder if there isn't something wrong with the monitor (or perhaps you have super human hearing!).  At any rate, glad it's working!   

[Ummon]

Na, it sounded just like the tri-sync issue to me. Look into old posts where they talk about it. I've experienced it. The 'scree' sound has been discussed, also. Not lately but in an old post I found a link to a technical site - might've been Bob Roberts or somebody like that - where it was discussed. I forget exactly what part of the monitor, but you could stick a toothpick in somewhere to stop it from vibrating and making that sound. And, yes, remember old tv's how they used make that same sound ? Granted, it wasn't as loud as my multi-sync.

[JKD The Lad]

I would love to know where to stick a toothpick to end the sounds.
I'll have to look at the back end and see if I can find where the vibration is coming from

[Ummon]

Heheheheh. I'd google for the post or page before you go trying to stick things in things you might not be properly weary of. Googling 'montior whine', below is the second page in the results:

Start here for general information. This is a page on squeal. Here's an early part that caught me funny:

"If it is a new monitor and you think the sounds will drive you insane, returning it for a refund or replacement may be best alternative. However, you may get used to it in time."