Author Topic: 4Ghz Core 2 Duo vs M.A.M.E. 0.120 (benchmark results) (Read 200724 times)

DillonFoulds · « **Reply #480 on:** February 26, 2012, 03:03:37 pm »

PLEASE DO! Since it's nearly impossible for me to get my hands on a dedicated, I'd love to know how far you get through this!

Diet_Pepsi · « **Reply #481 on:** February 28, 2012, 09:43:45 am »

Quote from: smalltownguy on February 25, 2012, 07:34:54 pm

Gauntlet legends crashes randomly after I start gameplay. My cpu is nowhere near maxed out - the game is running in 4 out of 8 cores, and each of them is at best 60% utilized.

Have you tried disabling hyperthreading? My i3-560 runs mame better without HT -- I would bet that your benchmarks (and perhaps GL gameplay) would be better with HT disabled.

smalltownguy · « **Reply #482 on:** February 28, 2012, 10:00:37 am »

Quote from: Diet_Pepsi on February 28, 2012, 09:43:45 am

Quote from: smalltownguy on February 25, 2012, 07:34:54 pm

Gauntlet legends crashes randomly after I start gameplay. My cpu is nowhere near maxed out - the game is running in 4 out of 8 cores, and each of them is at best 60% utilized.

Have you tried disabling hyperthreading? My i3-560 runs mame better without HT -- I would bet that your benchmarks (and perhaps GL gameplay) would be better with HT disabled.

I did - it didn't make a difference. Gauntlet Legends actually plays perfectly. The problem was that I was using version 1.6, which has known crashing issues (see mamedev.org) but 1.2 works perfectly. No stutters, no speed issues, no sound issues.

Later this week I'm going to try and play through the whole game with a friend so I can be sure that multiplayer will work without issues.

tommyinajar · « **Reply #483 on:** February 28, 2012, 02:14:21 pm »

I remember not too long ago, it was thought you'd need a 8 or 9 Ghz CPU to be able to play Legends.

smalltownguy · « **Reply #484 on:** February 28, 2012, 04:07:40 pm »

Considering I can see MAME64 running in two of my eight cores @ 4.8ghz each, I can see where a single core CPU would need to run close that speed in order to keep up.

Diet_Pepsi · « **Reply #485 on:** February 28, 2012, 04:13:01 pm »

It would be interesting to see if you needed all 4.8ghz to run these games or if they are able to run at, say, 4.2 or 4.3.

smalltownguy · « **Reply #486 on:** February 28, 2012, 04:22:18 pm »

Yeah, that's an interesting point to consider. Since I was overclocking for the pure purpose to see how high I could push my chip and still remain stable, I'm not inclined to mess with my settings now that I've got it locked in stable at 4.8.

I would, however, be happy to bench test any other games that folks would like to see benchmarked.

Diet_Pepsi · « **Reply #487 on:** February 28, 2012, 04:28:11 pm »

Quote from: smalltownguy on February 28, 2012, 04:07:40 pm

Considering I can see MAME64 running in two of my eight threads @ 4.8ghz each, I can see where a single core CPU would need to run close that speed in order to keep up.

I am curious -- while your benchmark is running how many of your threads are at 100% -- 2 or 4? If only 2 of 8 are at 100% then shouldn't you be able to disable HT to get a higher benchmark (mame would then use 2 of 4)? I'm going to try this out on my Clarkdale when I get home...for some reason I can't shake the notion that HT negatively affects mame performance.

smalltownguy · « **Reply #488 on:** February 28, 2012, 04:32:32 pm »

Quote from: Diet_Pepsi on February 28, 2012, 04:28:11 pm

Quote from: smalltownguy on February 28, 2012, 04:07:40 pm
Considering I can see MAME64 running in two of my eight threads @ 4.8ghz each, I can see where a single core CPU would need to run close that speed in order to keep up.

I am curious -- while your benchmark is running how many of your threads are at 100% -- 2 or 4? If only 2 of 8 are at 100% then shouldn't you be able to disable HT to get a higher benchmark (mame would then use 2 of 4)? I'm going to try this out on my Clarkdale when I get home...for some reason I can't shake the notion that HT negatively affects mame performance.

My motherboard has a lot to do with how well my i7 performs. It does a very good job with the voltage during TurboBoost. I had CPU-Z running during my benching, and the board did a very good job ratcheting up the core speeds from 3.4 (stock) to 4.8ghz when under load. AFAIK the turbo boost mode overclocks all 8 cores, so they're all running at 4.8 regardless of whether or not a process is running in that core or not.

I believe MAME64 v145 only uses 2 cores at most. I could be wrong. I'll shoot urebelscum a PM and ask.

Diet_Pepsi · « **Reply #489 on:** February 29, 2012, 01:59:34 am »

OK so I was able to spend some time tinkering. Got my i3-560 up to 4.2ghz (going higher would require more time than I was willing to invest) and ran some benchmarks with and without HT. I am running mame64 in windows 7 (ultimate 64 bit) with 8 gb of RAM. I had a limited selection of roms but I was able to benchmark the following:

galaga (no HT): 5415
galaga (HT): 3973

1943 (no HT): 4124
1943 (HT): 4114

1942 (no HT): 5175
1942 (HT): 5209

gauntleg (no HT): 275
gauntleg (HT): 263

So it looks like 1942 and 1943 are pushes, galaga runs significantly faster (?!) and gauntleg has about a 4.5% advantage with no HT. I took a closer look while running the gauntleg bench 90 and my CPU has a slightly higher overall utilization when HT is turned off.

These limited results don't indicate that turning off HT gives a significant advantage but they do indicate that turning on HT doesn't benefit mame64. I will therefore be leaving HT off (which will lower temps and allow for a higher overclock).

Out of curiosity I fired up gauntleg and it ran just fine until it crashed while I was on the stairs (known issue). I didn't have blitz handy but I will pull it out tomorrow and post results.

smalltownguy · « **Reply #490 on:** February 29, 2012, 07:12:52 am »

Quote from: Diet_Pepsi on February 29, 2012, 01:59:34 am

gauntleg and it ran just fine until it crashed while I was on the stairs (known issue)

Did you run version 1.6 or version 1.2?

Diet_Pepsi · « **Reply #491 on:** February 29, 2012, 11:18:57 am »

Not sure -- I will check it out tonight.

DillonFoulds · « **Reply #492 on:** February 29, 2012, 11:14:08 pm »

If I'm not mistaken...

gauntleg = 1.6
gauntleg12 = 1.2

You can also confirm the version on the title screen (or is it the credits?). It's listed in the bottom left corner of the screen.

Diet_Pepsi · « **Reply #493 on:** March 01, 2012, 12:39:09 am »

ok, so I dug out blitz, and here are my results:

blitz (no HT): 192
blitz (HT): 179

7% advantage with HT disabled.

Same settings as yesterday -- i3 560 (Clarkdale) @4.2ghz. I am not using onboard graphics -- I am running an ATI 5570.

With HT disabled I was able to play blitz flawlessly (@100%). My legends version is 1.6 and plays flawlessly (@99.97%) until crash. I don't have version 1.2.

I could push my Clarkdale further but I see no need when GL and blitz runs smooth @4.2ghz (cruise control) with room to spare. I am guessing that a sandy bridge i5@4.2ghz would eat my clarkdale for breakfast.

Can someone please remind me why C2Ds are so highly regarded for running mame?

MacGyver · « **Reply #494 on:** March 01, 2012, 03:21:09 am »

You guys are costing me money.

After reading the new additions to this thread and the fact that you got everything up to %100 speed, I decided to finally spend the money on an upgraded CPU, so I bought an i5 2500K, an ASUS z68, 8gb of 1333 RAM, and a 128gb SSD. Wish me luck. Oh, and I swear I plan on building the cabinet now, the monitor was the real thing holding me up (Germany and 200lb crates don't work well), so I found this and bought it:

http://www.amazon.com/I-Inc-IH283HPB-Class-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B0050HZ2SS
it was $249, so I couldn't help it, I just hope it is more like a real monitor in shape than a 16:9 TV. Now off to find some black pica vinyl.

Bigtymer781 · « **Reply #495 on:** March 02, 2012, 07:12:46 am »

Quote from: Diet_Pepsi on March 01, 2012, 12:39:09 am

I could push my Clarkdale further but I see no need when GL and blitz runs smooth @4.2ghz (cruise control) with room to spare. I am guessing that a sandy bridge i5@4.2ghz would eat my clarkdale for breakfast.

Can someone please remind me why C2Ds are so highly regarded for running mame?

Well, they were so highly regarded for running MAME cause they were doing what your now doing about 4 years ago. My Core2Duo E8500 @ 4.27Ghz runs blitz without a hitch (room to spare), and even a more challenging game San Francisco Rush, with very few hiccups (while fraps is recording), I posted a video in this thread a few years ago (September 2008 I believe). I had my E8500 clocked at 4.5GHz for the first year I had it, then I decided to clock it down slightly (to 4.27GHz) and use more comfortable almost stock voltage, cause I knew it was a great CPU and I wanted it to last many years. .

Here's a refresher, this video is over 3 years old now...

Diet_Pepsi · « **Reply #496 on:** March 02, 2012, 09:55:46 am »

Nicely done. I am going to dig for that rom and try to run it tonight at my current settings. Did you figure out a way to permanently solve the sound issue or are you still having to do your work-around?

kahlid74 · « **Reply #497 on:** March 02, 2012, 11:50:20 am »

This is a rig I've been using for a lot of my Cabs but I've never tested with Blitz/Gauntleg so I'll try to test with those this weekend and report on what my performance levels are.

Diet_Pepsi · « **Reply #498 on:** March 02, 2012, 03:25:58 pm »

Quote from: DillonFoulds on February 29, 2012, 11:14:08 pm

If I'm not mistaken...

gauntleg = 1.6
gauntleg12 = 1.2

You can also confirm the version on the title screen (or is it the credits?). It's listed in the bottom left corner of the screen.

Out of curiosity, what is gauntdl and is it the same as gauntleg? If not, how is it different?

smalltownguy · « **Reply #499 on:** March 02, 2012, 03:32:20 pm »

I couldn't resist.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+gauntdl+on+mame%3F

Bigtymer781 · « **Reply #500 on:** March 02, 2012, 05:13:41 pm »

Quote from: Diet_Pepsi on March 02, 2012, 09:55:46 am

Nicely done. I am going to dig for that rom and try to run it tonight at my current settings. Did you figure out a way to permanently solve the sound issue or are you still having to do your work-around?

Last I checked, the SF Rush sound issue was fixed, I forgot what version of MAME it was cause it's been a while. Playing the game with a PS2 controller isn't the best, and is very hard to configure, if I owned a high quality steering wheel, I'd be addicted to the game again.

Diet_Pepsi · « **Reply #501 on:** March 02, 2012, 05:22:58 pm »

Quote from: smalltownguy on March 02, 2012, 03:32:20 pm

I couldn't resist.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+gauntdl+on+mame%3F

ok, so maybe I deserved that, but to get more specific, if gauntdl contains everything gauntleg does (+more) why are we benchmarking gauntleg and not gauntdl? I played gauntdl on my system last night and there was no freezing...

I ran a -bench 90 on gauntdl and it benched a lot higher than gauntleg -- I can't remember what the number was but I can bench it again when I get home...

smalltownguy · « **Reply #502 on:** March 02, 2012, 05:23:50 pm »

I chose gauntlet legends because that's what the OP used.

DillonFoulds · « **Reply #503 on:** March 02, 2012, 07:06:19 pm »

If gauntdl benches higher than gauntleg, then you want to be benching gauntleg, as that's a harder task...

Diet_Pepsi · « **Reply #504 on:** March 02, 2012, 08:17:20 pm »

Fair enough. So besides locating version 1.2 and taking a look at sfrush, is there any other game out there that folks would like to see me try to run on my Clarkdale?

Bigtymer781 · « **Reply #505 on:** March 02, 2012, 08:53:06 pm »

Quote from: Diet_Pepsi on March 02, 2012, 08:17:20 pm

Fair enough. So besides locating version 1.2 and taking a look at sfrush, is there any other game out there that folks would like to see me try to run on my Clarkdale?

There's a lot of games I'd love to see and play, but most are marked as "NOT WORKING" unfortunately.

Diet_Pepsi · « **Reply #506 on:** March 04, 2012, 10:23:41 am »

ok so i tried sfrush and it plays at just under 99%. The game stutters a bit on the track selection screen but is perfect after that (car selection and gameplay were perfect).

Bigtymer781 · « **Reply #507 on:** March 04, 2012, 06:47:33 pm »

This used to be true, I haven't tried the latest versions of MAME so I'm not sure anymore, but when I'd use Mame32 .121 (64-bit), I'd get like a 10% performance boost in SF Rush, but you have to do the sound work around when using .121, and it's hard to find now I think. I got it sitting around somewhere though.

Another tweak I'd do to the sound is, since the arcade machine had 4 channel sound, It doesn't sound quite right in MAME (with 2 channels), I'd set the sound to 50% in channels 1 and 3 (if I remember correctly), or it could be channels 0 and 2 (I'm going off memory) and it would sound more like the arcade machine when you turned the sound up.

Hockeyboy · « **Reply #508 on:** July 23, 2012, 10:10:45 pm »

So...reading in the Main Forum CPU FAQ led me to here (apparently way outdated, started in '03), and I'm curious about my proposed equipment for my upcoming cabinet:

Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L motherboard
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9450 (12M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB)
Kingston DDR2 800 MHz SDRAM, 4x1GB sticks for a total of 4GB RAM
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
EVGA 01G-P3-N988-TR GeForce 9800 GT HDMI 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
DVD-ROM drive
Hard drive - use either spare SATA 250GB or purchase new 60GB SSD w/SATA II

I'm planning on using my MAME version 0.103u2 (Jan 11 '06) and also putting DAPHNE on to run Dragon's Lair, Dragon's Lair II, Space Ace, and Cliff Hanger. Now I'm hearing about Gauntlet Legends -- will the above setup be able to play it or will I have some serious issues and not worry about it? Thanks in advance for the advice.

brad808 · « **Reply #509 on:** July 23, 2012, 10:58:38 pm »

Quote from: Hockeyboy on July 23, 2012, 10:10:45 pm

So...reading in the Main Forum CPU FAQ led me to here (apparently way outdated, started in '03), and I'm curious about my proposed equipment for my upcoming cabinet:

Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L motherboard
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9450 (12M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB)
Kingston DDR2 800 MHz SDRAM, 4x1GB sticks for a total of 4GB RAM
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
EVGA 01G-P3-N988-TR GeForce 9800 GT HDMI 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
DVD-ROM drive
Hard drive - use either spare SATA 250GB or purchase new 60GB SSD w/SATA II

I'm planning on using my MAME version 0.103u2 (Jan 11 '06) and also putting DAPHNE on to run Dragon's Lair, Dragon's Lair II, Space Ace, and Cliff Hanger. Now I'm hearing about Gauntlet Legends -- will the above setup be able to play it or will I have some serious issues and not worry about it? Thanks in advance for the advice.

I have two similar processors, q6600 and q8200, and neither are close to playing gauntlet legends. You would probably need a pretty serious overclock to get it running full speed.

Sent from my Desire HD

kahlid74 · « **Reply #510 on:** July 24, 2012, 10:46:04 am »

Quote from: Hockeyboy on July 23, 2012, 10:10:45 pm

So...reading in the Main Forum CPU FAQ led me to here (apparently way outdated, started in '03), and I'm curious about my proposed equipment for my upcoming cabinet:

Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L motherboard
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9450 (12M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB)
Kingston DDR2 800 MHz SDRAM, 4x1GB sticks for a total of 4GB RAM
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
EVGA 01G-P3-N988-TR GeForce 9800 GT HDMI 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
DVD-ROM drive
Hard drive - use either spare SATA 250GB or purchase new 60GB SSD w/SATA II

I'm planning on using my MAME version 0.103u2 (Jan 11 '06) and also putting DAPHNE on to run Dragon's Lair, Dragon's Lair II, Space Ace, and Cliff Hanger. Now I'm hearing about Gauntlet Legends -- will the above setup be able to play it or will I have some serious issues and not worry about it? Thanks in advance for the advice.

From what I remember reading, you'd need to be somewhere in the 5-8 Ghz range for Gauntlet legends/NFL Blitz 99. So I don't think you'll get smooth Gauntlet Legends play on your current rig.

smalltownguy · « **Reply #511 on:** July 24, 2012, 10:52:01 am »

Quote from: kahlid74 on July 24, 2012, 10:46:04 am

Quote from: Hockeyboy on July 23, 2012, 10:10:45 pm
So...reading in the Main Forum CPU FAQ led me to here (apparently way outdated, started in '03), and I'm curious about my proposed equipment for my upcoming cabinet:

Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L motherboard
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9450 (12M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB)
Kingston DDR2 800 MHz SDRAM, 4x1GB sticks for a total of 4GB RAM
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
EVGA 01G-P3-N988-TR GeForce 9800 GT HDMI 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
DVD-ROM drive
Hard drive - use either spare SATA 250GB or purchase new 60GB SSD w/SATA II

I'm planning on using my MAME version 0.103u2 (Jan 11 '06) and also putting DAPHNE on to run Dragon's Lair, Dragon's Lair II, Space Ace, and Cliff Hanger. Now I'm hearing about Gauntlet Legends -- will the above setup be able to play it or will I have some serious issues and not worry about it? Thanks in advance for the advice.

From what I remember reading, you'd need to be somewhere in the 5-8 Ghz range for Gauntlet legends/NFL Blitz 99. So I don't think you'll get smooth Gauntlet Legends play on your current rig.

Not true. See my quote below, from earlier in this thread. Both Blitz and GL play perfectly on my 4.8ghz rig.

Quote from: smalltownguy on February 25, 2012, 02:28:50 pm

Alright, finally some results. My core i7 gets pretty flaky after 4.8ghz, so I chose to keep it there for now.

5346.38% - 1942
735.65% - Area 51
352.60% - gauntleg12
272.67% - Blitz
387.44% - Gradius4
177.67% - Propcycl
142.97% - radikalb
121.86% - starsldr

Not too shabby

My system setup: ASUS P8P67M-Pro, 8 Gigs Ripjaw 12800 RAM, 64GB SATA III SSD, I7 2600k clocked to 4.8 on air, NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT 256mb PCIe, running XP 64bit.

DillonFoulds · « **Reply #512 on:** July 24, 2012, 11:01:21 am »

I think one of the big things is gauntleg12 (Gauntlet Legends 1.2) vs gauntleg (Gauntlet Legends 1.6). Apparently the emulation is MUCH better overall in 1.2. Even to the point that you can actually even finish the first level!

Diet_Pepsi · « **Reply #513 on:** July 24, 2012, 05:43:41 pm »

Quote from: Hockeyboy on July 23, 2012, 10:10:45 pm

So...reading in the Main Forum CPU FAQ led me to here (apparently way outdated, started in '03), and I'm curious about my proposed equipment for my upcoming cabinet:

Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L motherboard
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9450 (12M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB)
Kingston DDR2 800 MHz SDRAM, 4x1GB sticks for a total of 4GB RAM
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
EVGA 01G-P3-N988-TR GeForce 9800 GT HDMI 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
DVD-ROM drive
Hard drive - use either spare SATA 250GB or purchase new 60GB SSD w/SATA II

I'm planning on using my MAME version 0.103u2 (Jan 11 '06) and also putting DAPHNE on to run Dragon's Lair, Dragon's Lair II, Space Ace, and Cliff Hanger. Now I'm hearing about Gauntlet Legends -- will the above setup be able to play it or will I have some serious issues and not worry about it? Thanks in advance for the advice.

Out of curiosity are you pretty much set on the above specs? If you already have the machine you might as well start running tests to see what you can do (and how much you are able to overclock). If you don't already have the components there are probably better options out there in terms of CPU's (for mame) -- one example earlier on this page has a Core 2 Duo overclocked to 4ghz, and I was running an i3-560 overclocked to 4.2 and was able to run all of these games (nfl blitz, gauntdl).

If you are set on a socket 775 motherboard, Core 2 duos tend to overclock better than the core 2 quads because the extra cores and cache of the quads generate more heat.

If you go Sandy Bridge you don't need 4.8ghz to run these games. I have a 2500k @ 4.2 and it runs these games with room to spare. I just happen to be assembling a new system based on an i5-2400 (Sandy bridge @3.1 ghz) and can try to run these games when I get home tonight if you want.

I agree that there appears to be emulation issues in gauntleg, so you will want to try to run either gauntleg12 or gauntdl.

smalltownguy · « **Reply #514 on:** July 24, 2012, 05:46:47 pm »

I just bought an i5 3570k Ivy Bridge today - I'll be swapping this into my rig to run more tests. Once I get the overclock stable on it, I'll benchmark a few more games again.

Diet_Pepsi · « **Reply #515 on:** July 24, 2012, 05:57:31 pm »

Quote from: smalltownguy on July 24, 2012, 05:46:47 pm

I just bought an i5 3570k Ivy Bridge today - I'll be swapping this into my rig to run more tests. Once I get the overclock stable on it, I'll benchmark a few more games again.

It would be interesting to see if your 3570k is able to run these games at stock settings -- I suspect that it might be able to.

smalltownguy · « **Reply #516 on:** July 24, 2012, 05:58:32 pm »

That'll be my first test, actually.

Hockeyboy · « **Reply #517 on:** July 25, 2012, 03:35:46 am »

Quote from: Diet_Pepsi on July 24, 2012, 05:43:41 pm

Quote from: Hockeyboy on July 23, 2012, 10:10:45 pm
So...reading in the Main Forum CPU FAQ led me to here (apparently way outdated, started in '03), and I'm curious about my proposed equipment for my upcoming cabinet:

Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L motherboard
Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor Q9450 (12M Cache, 2.66 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB)
Kingston DDR2 800 MHz SDRAM, 4x1GB sticks for a total of 4GB RAM
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
EVGA 01G-P3-N988-TR GeForce 9800 GT HDMI 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
DVD-ROM drive
Hard drive - use either spare SATA 250GB or purchase new 60GB SSD w/SATA II

I'm planning on using my MAME version 0.103u2 (Jan 11 '06) and also putting DAPHNE on to run Dragon's Lair, Dragon's Lair II, Space Ace, and Cliff Hanger. Now I'm hearing about Gauntlet Legends -- will the above setup be able to play it or will I have some serious issues and not worry about it? Thanks in advance for the advice.

Out of curiosity are you pretty much set on the above specs? If you already have the machine you might as well start running tests to see what you can do (and how much you are able to overclock). If you don't already have the components there are probably better options out there in terms of CPU's (for mame) -- one example earlier on this page has a Core 2 Duo overclocked to 4ghz, and I was running an i3-560 overclocked to 4.2 and was able to run all of these games (nfl blitz, gauntdl).

If you are set on a socket 775 motherboard, Core 2 duos tend to overclock better than the core 2 quads because the extra cores and cache of the quads generate more heat.

If you go Sandy Bridge you don't need 4.8ghz to run these games. I have a 2500k @ 4.2 and it runs these games with room to spare. I just happen to be assembling a new system based on an i5-2400 (Sandy bridge @3.1 ghz) and can try to run these games when I get home tonight if you want.

I agree that there appears to be emulation issues in gauntleg, so you will want to try to run either gauntleg12 or gauntdl.

I quoted the above specs because that's what I have as my "spare" PC that I'm going to build my MAME cabinet with. I could go out and buy a new set of computer components, but I'd really rather not spend the money -- it's been enough of a fight just to get my wife to let me build a cabinet in this smaller house that she claims has no space available. As for not being able to run Gauntlet Legends, although that's a loss, it's not a huge deal, but I admit it would have been nice to play one of my favorite families of games with Gauntlet. Right now my main concern is being able to play most of the arcade games -- I can always upgrade the PC later after the cab is built.

Diet_Pepsi · « **Reply #518 on:** July 25, 2012, 06:23:52 am »

Quote from: Hockeyboy on July 25, 2012, 03:35:46 am

Right now my main concern is being able to play most of the arcade games -- I can always upgrade the PC later after the cab is built.

Absolutely no worries in that regard -- your system is plenty powerful for that, even at stock settings.


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