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Author Topic: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**  (Read 14794 times)

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller VERSION 2
« Reply #40 on: April 08, 2007, 01:39:06 am »
You probably won't loose any, but you probably won't gain any either.  I doubt whoever buys it will look inside.  I'd leave it as is and move on.

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller VERSION 2
« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2007, 10:21:59 am »
If I solder all those wires to clean up the rats nest that's in there now, do you think I will loose some of the sale price?
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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller VERSION 2
« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2007, 02:28:23 pm »
I cleaned it up w/o soldering.  I used the ex-Jamma harness that was in my cab when I picked it up, so now the wires are not as bulky and they are colored which helps with the process.  I am going to redo the wire to the 2nd player panel with a 15pin I got for $1 at a PC recycling place and it will all look much cleaner, this way wether or not I sell them I can be pleased with the finished craftsmanship (mostly.)  I post some pics of the cleaned up pair when I finish.

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller VERSION 2
« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2007, 10:34:10 pm »
I think I'm done with these.   :applaud:

I've rewired them so that it is cleaner and the button/joystick assignment is about as logical as I can get it.  Player 2 is buttons 1-4 for the joystick 5-10 for the buttons and then coins 1 and 2 are 13 &14, P2 and P1 start are 15 & 16 and then player 1 buttons are 17-22.  The order seems odd but because I want to play Nestopia I had to put P2 low enough that it wouldn't get cut off, and wiring the IDE header made sense this way.  The GPwiz is held in place by the USB cable which is tightly wedged into a cut out on the back piece of the CP frame.



I found a 15 pin DB extension cable and a 15 pin DB header for the back of a computer case at a PC recycling place, which I cut up to make a nice clean connection from P1 to P2.



Here is a picture of the pair of controllers ready to play some Daraku Tenshi.



I am pleased with the finished product.  If anything I wish that they had the same style of finish, but I think that this is a good example of two different finishing options.  With a tablesaw and a router I could set up to make these thing fairly quickly, which could be an interesting way to make a few bucks if anybody thinks they are worth anything.

I have definitely enjoyed the process even with the difficulties and errors.  After starting off thinking that these parts would go into my cabinet when I got it, I have come to a point where rather than take these apart and toss out the boxes I would rather sell them and buy new components.  It's a funny place for ME to end up, working in professional theatre I constantly work on projects with a life expectancy of less than 2 months.  MOST things I work on end up in the dumpster shortly after they are finished, but I don't want to toss these out.  There are places where the craftsmanship is a little lower than I would like, but considering I was treating these as prototypes I think overall they are great.  Now I guess it's time to dive into my cabinet, but I can't take it to work nearly as easily, and I definitely don't have a useful shop here, I see a very drawn out process in the works.  Hopefully I'll be able to work on small parts and transport them back and forth.

Thanks for reading, consider the floor open for questions and comments. ;D

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller VERSION 2
« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2007, 10:37:52 pm »
I want one.  I am inspired to make a panel using thick plexi as the cp top now.

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller VERSION 2
« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2007, 11:32:01 pm »
Go for it, I think you will be pleased with the results.

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2007, 01:22:25 am »
Awesome, man!  Now I want to cruise over and try them out to see if your button layout would work for me.  ;D

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #47 on: April 11, 2007, 01:34:42 am »
What are those brass looking pins in the corners?  A clip of some sort?

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #48 on: April 14, 2007, 12:24:32 am »
Hey Brian,  I tried the button layout you so graciously shared.  I like the closer feel of them, however, they were a bit of pain to install, being so tight.  I actually had to flip over every other button nut in order to get them all to screw down all the way.  Were you able to rig some easier way?  Thanks

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #49 on: April 14, 2007, 02:30:11 am »
The brass you see in the pictures is what holds the back part of the box on, it allows me to pop it off to switch the joy from 4 to 8 way.  They are a Brass ball catch from Rockler.com




My buttons are a tight fit, but I didn't have to flip the nuts or anything, I wonder if the printout was full scale.  Did the hole size in the drawing come out at 1 1/8" ?  My nuts just barely touch.......... um you know what I mean. 

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2007, 09:12:39 pm »
I think it came out a little smaller than that, so that's probably the issue.  I'll take another look... thanks.

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2007, 07:32:53 pm »
Hey, I finally got a chance to reprint your layout at the correct scale and try it out.  I like it and am going to use it!  Let me know where to send the royalty checks. ;)

Thanks a lot,
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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #52 on: April 21, 2007, 09:12:27 pm »
Glad you liked it. I figure if I charged royalties nobody would be able to afford them, that's how much I'm worth... oh, no wait, um... how about if it turns out nice you let me check it out sometime, you are one of the Seattle area folks right?  Are you doing a thread about your build?  I'd like to see what you're up to.

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #53 on: April 22, 2007, 12:55:09 am »
Sounds like a deal!  And yes, I'm in Bothell.  My first cab is a conversion, which I didn't think anyone would be all that interested in, so I never started a thread.  I'm still considering doing one when I finish, though... we'll see.

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #54 on: July 21, 2007, 07:48:59 pm »
What's the bolt hole spacing on that Suzo stick?  I'm considering the mounting plates over at GGG and they use the Suzo pattern.  Are they the std 2.6" x 3"?

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #55 on: July 22, 2007, 12:16:26 am »
I don't have any batteries for my calipers, but just using a ruler your measurements look right.  I have swapped them with my (I think) wico microswitch joysticks using the same holes before.  If you need a definitive answer though, you could ask RandyT, he's a regular on the forum and the owner of GGG, where I purchased these sticks.

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #56 on: October 06, 2007, 01:36:58 am »
I am making some plans in AutoCAD for a slight variation on these sticks.  I have changed the top panel to be 2 parts which makes building easier and when combined with the slightly reduced footprint allows the use of 8"x10" artwork (from a printer or photo lab) between the MDF layer and the Plexiglas.  The plexiglas is held down with the buttons and recessed into the frame to be flush with the top of the box, it's drawn as 1/4" plex so it wouldn't be a problem that it's only held by the buttons, but I'd bet it could be changed to work with 1/8" plex too.  I've also drawn it with a round-over on the outside top edges.

I have the whole thing modeled in AutoCAD and just need to make some workable dimensioned plans and print them out to PDF.  I don't need to make one of these new versions for myself since I have the original and two upright cabinets now, but I may make one anyway just to see how the new design works out.  If anybody wants one built I think I could do it for about $30ish empty.

Here's a rendering of the new design:


Plans to follow this weekend or early next week.

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #57 on: October 06, 2007, 10:51:38 pm »
nice design bfauska.

A really neat solution to play mame without a full cab.

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #58 on: October 07, 2007, 01:01:09 am »
I don't know how I missed this thread, nice work! I'm currently making some Xbox 360 sticks which will work with Mame too. I like these sticks, they enable me to realize cab ideas on a much smaller scale hehe. They're also cool to add a third person to a 2 player cab or second player to a bartop.
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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #59 on: October 08, 2007, 05:13:32 am »
Plans for a variation of these CP boxes can now be found here.  I will be adding some build directions soon.

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #60 on: October 08, 2007, 03:41:09 pm »
Plans for a variation of these CP boxes can now be found here.  I will be adding some build directions soon.

nice one brian, ill be making something like this for sure, handy to have no brainer directions, for the design challenged like me. :cheers:
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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #61 on: October 10, 2007, 01:05:24 am »
Plans for a variation of these CP boxes can now be found here.  I will be adding some build directions soon.

sweet, I'll be looking forward to them


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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #62 on: October 10, 2007, 01:09:31 am »
Plans for a variation of these CP boxes can now be found here.  I will be adding some build directions soon.

I may have been too vague in that post.  The word "here" in the post above was a link to [urlhttp://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=72097.0]this thread[/url](also a link).


I have just completed the directions portion of that thread as well.  Hopefully somebody will find it useful.

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Re: "Add-a-player" 2 piece controller **Finished**
« Reply #63 on: October 10, 2007, 02:14:31 am »
Thanks for spending the time to document.  I'm sure more than one person will benefit from your efforts.