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Author Topic: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** GIFT: Sketchup plans and... ARTWORK!  (Read 85308 times)

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum **** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/11
« Reply #120 on: August 15, 2007, 10:42:32 am »
... 2nd coat of primer was applied last night

:)

Will sand tonight and who knows... maybe start painting it!


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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum **** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/11
« Reply #121 on: August 15, 2007, 04:22:09 pm »
Very    ...     Very     ...      nice cab!

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum **** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/11
« Reply #122 on: August 15, 2007, 08:49:42 pm »
Looking very nice and clean!

(And you have me convinced that I must learn Sketchup despite half-hearted past attempts.)

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum **** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/11
« Reply #123 on: August 16, 2007, 10:34:26 am »
Thank you guys!

I threw my back (carrying a 27" ntsc monitor with RGB I got for free!!!) yesterday so I'm taking some time off from the project for a little bit.
I am orderinbg my U360's, spinner, trackball, etc.

Stay tuned!

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum **** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/11
« Reply #124 on: August 17, 2007, 02:45:12 am »
A quick pic of the cab with wood fill, sanded, 2 coats of primer on, sanded, before painting it (black semi-gloss):

Overview:


Close-up ... Screws are invisible! :)
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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum **** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/16
« Reply #125 on: August 18, 2007, 01:11:41 am »
Getting STARTED with the painting ... as you may know this is a long process to get to the finished state.

NOTE: do *not* sand the primer coats too smooth... Paint needs some ROUGH surface to stick to ... My primer coats were like MIRRORS on the sides of my cab, and the paint didn't stick to them (!) ... I had to "rough it up" with 100 grip paper and re-paint. One of the sides (right) is half-way peeled actually. I'll sand it completely tomorrow and make sure to "rough it up" before painting again. The pics below were taken before all of this.

Pictures of the cab as it looks in the middle of painting (after first coat):




CLICK HERE FOR A LARGE VERSION

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MONITOR UPDATE:
OH... while I was working on all of this, I also switched from the TV / S-Video to using a true RGB monitor (27" still!) that is multisync, etc... I picked it up FREE (!) from a local post-production studio which switched to all-digital (TIP: CALL YOUR LOCAL TV STATIONS TO GET ONE TOO!) .. I used a VGA > BNC cable and it is BEAUTIFUL ... scanlines and low-resolutions in their pure beauty:

One small caveat: I designed my cab to fit the Sony 27" TV *perfectly* ... not this other monitor... it is thinner (that's good) but also bulkier (not good) in the back... I MUST DECASE IT... You guys will follow the progress of that here as well :)

Back label / model details ("April 1993"):


Connectors:


How the screen graphics look (I looove it...)




CLICK FOR LARGE 8.6 MEGA PIXEL VERSION (!)

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Man... this project is SO MUCH FUN ... planning, building, ordering stuff (!), being here with you guys...
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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/17
« Reply #126 on: August 18, 2007, 11:11:11 am »
HEY

I created a new Wiki Page: SketchUp Tips:
http://wiki.arcadecontrols.com/wiki/SketchUp_Tips

:):):)

Note that it is just a few things right now... I will add to it whenever I get a chance. Watch the page changes over time.

Take care.

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/17
« Reply #127 on: August 18, 2007, 11:40:08 am »
Wow - you got that monitor for free!?!?!?  Nice find!  I'm going to end up spending $500 on the billabs one...   :'(

You are making really great progress - have you started designing your second one yet?   ;)

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/17
« Reply #128 on: August 18, 2007, 12:26:17 pm »
Call your local TV stations!

Call your local video post-production studios!

Ask them if they have some video monitors they aren't using, if they have "switched to digital" (that's what the guy I got mine from said), and if you could pick one (or more) up instead of dumping them. The guy was even more willing when I said that it would be for my kid and I to play video games together.

Good luck. Seriously this may be the tip of the century for BYOAC members.

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/17
« Reply #129 on: August 19, 2007, 02:46:18 am »
OK here are a few pics of the 27" monitor I took tonight while waiting for my cabinet paint to dry :)

Click on them for larger versions.

After measuring everything, it appears that I can get away NOT decasing this beast completely.
Instead, I will CUT the monitor's case "here and there": remove some corners, remove the roof, etc...
This way, no need to design and figure out additional mounting hardware/brackets... I'll cut out parts of the monitor case and it will fit "snug" exactly where I want it.
The fact that the case is mainly cardboard + MDF makes this an easy thing to do really.

Stay tuned :)







The cab is drying ... :) one of the side gave me problems :( ... it was initially sanded too smooth after I primed, and the paint didn't stick ... I "roughed" the surface, painted again, and this time it sticks :) ... BUT I can see a lot of scratches. After talking with my father in-law (who knows his stuff), I'll sand again with 120 to get rid of the scratches, then paint another coat. His advice was to also wait a full 2 days between coats to let it dry thru.

As usual, expect frequent updates and lots of pics :)

Make sure to check out the SketchUp page I added to the Wiki ... it's a work in progress, but you may already find it useful.
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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/18
« Reply #130 on: August 19, 2007, 09:22:10 pm »
Woow!

(sorry no pics, but an update anyway)

... I got the troublesome cabinet side (scratches showing thru the paint) DONE and it looks great :)
My father in law's tips worked and helped a ton.

I promise new pics soon ... this thread is like a "project diary" to me, I want to make sure to document and keep track of all the progress.

SO ... the cab is painted (semi-gloss black).

What is to come:

. de-case / modify monitor and put it in cab (temporarily / removable to transport)
. when fully dry, lightly sand paint smooth (1500 grit)
. Get TT2 spinner + big knob + RED T-molding (and maybe that nifty LED marquee light!) from GroovyGameGear.com
. get U360 sticks + 3" trackball (w/mount, LED kit) + marquee retainers in the mail (ordered already)
. finalize CP layout
. build 1 or 2 on scrap 3/4" plywood to REALLY prepare myself for the real CP construction, wired and playable
. print CPO and marquee artwork (mamemarquees.com)
. install marquee w/ retainers
. build final CP unit and install in cab (removable)
. get smart power strip (Craftsman brand, from Sears)
...

... this is too much fun :)

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/19
« Reply #131 on: August 21, 2007, 05:13:32 pm »
The monitor looks very nice! Do you need to do anything special with it? ArcadeVGA or powerstrip? Or can you just hook it up to the PC and it works?

Also nice work on the SketchUp Wiki.. keep up the good work!
I think it was mentioned before, but it would be great to have some downloadable content for SketchUp like buttons, joysticks and other related items :)
Maybe I'll try it, but I don't think I'm that good with precise models like that :s
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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/19
« Reply #132 on: August 21, 2007, 06:58:38 pm »
Hi there Loki

The monitor worked directly, but I had to install Soft-15Khz ... interestingly it only worked if I chose 1 of the 3 options, the "Install 31Khz Resolutions" ... the 2 others (15 and 25) caused the screen to not work any more

even then, it LOOKS like I have the full range of resolutions working and looking great

go figure :)


as far as the Wiki + sketchup models .... for SOME reason the Wiki on BYOAC only accepts uploading JPEG files, no ZIP or SKP (sketchup project files) ... Maybe I should contact Saint to help me add the format there

I even made a special project with the following models to scale:

. Happ Pushbutton
. Cherry Microswitch (hooked to button)
. 27" SONY Trinitron TV (pretty generic size/shape)
. Fixed caster (2 1/2")
. Swivel caster w/ break (2 1/2")

...

Again, I have the file ready to share it, but the Wiki prevents me from uploading... I'd really like to keep everything contained in the Wiki. If I can't, I'll just attach the file to the "not a project" thread (or to a reply here) and link to the attachment from the Wiki.

Stay tuned :)

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/19
« Reply #133 on: August 23, 2007, 12:41:36 am »
Quick update:

I dug up and dusted off a Logitech DRIVING FORCE PRO wheel (+ pedals) I had for my late PS2 and configured it to work with PC Games, MAME and Model2 (woow! Daytonaa!)

SO

I am going to design a mounting system for it - a set of "blades" that will slide into "slots" on the sides of my cabinet.
It will be easily removable.

I dont have details yet - will figure it out :)
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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/19
« Reply #134 on: August 23, 2007, 07:07:26 pm »
OMG...

My controls showed up in the mail today, and my marquee retainers!
Still waiting for the TT2 spinner, but I HAVE EVERYTHING ELSE!!!

. RED U360 (+ long shaft, restrictor kit) x2
. 3" translucent blue USB Happ Trackball + Mounting plate (NEW v2 USB encoder! No lag!)
. LED kit for Trackball
. Happ marquee retainers (28" x2)

(I already had all the Happ pushbuttons, cherries, wiring, and I-PAC2 ... I know the U360s have an optional harness, but I already have the IPAC so using it)



...

It's CP time!!!!
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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/19
« Reply #135 on: August 23, 2007, 10:03:53 pm »
(edit - problem solved ... apparently small plastic sleeves for the long U360 shafts are missing from the shipment I got)
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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/19
« Reply #136 on: August 23, 2007, 11:32:45 pm »
My controls showed up in the mail today, and my marquee retainers!
Christmas in August.  Gotta love it.

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/19
« Reply #137 on: August 26, 2007, 01:54:39 am »
Lookin good, Art.
I love your documentation on your project. One question, I'm not a "BS'er" by nature, so how did you approach your local TV stations? Did you call ... stop by ... who did you ask for? What state so you live in? ;) Did you straight out ask if they had any old 27" monitors they were getting rid of? Any and all tips will help!

Thanks & glad you're having fun with the project!! Keep up the good work!

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATED 8/19
« Reply #138 on: August 26, 2007, 04:26:23 am »
*** UPDATE ALERT!! MAJOR UPDATE!!! ***

This has been one CRAZY NIGHT! woah... I got WAY more done than what I was expecting to achieve in one night.
The pictures speak for themselves ... :)

(NOTE: a missing piece to my longer shafts for the U360s will arrive in the mail soon ... the short ones are good enough for now :) )

I didn't have enough vertical space to center my spinner BUT I put it on the P1 side close to the middle, and it feels great there.
The spinner on the right (in my previous drawings) had the P2 joystick in the way. This is a good compromise.
I am waiting to be 100% sure I am happy with the CP before I "finalize" (wood fill on trackball mount, etc).
The CP will have CPO artwork (mamemarquees) + Lexan / Plexiglass on top... ;)





First router cut done


One more router cut to go...


FLUSH!



All controls installed! BLAM! Overview

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Front overview:


Money Shots ;)



Under-belly:



YAWWWWNNNN ... Time to go to sleep.... Good night everybody ... WHAT A BLAST!
Ohh... THANKS EVERYONE FOR ALL THE INFO POSTED ON BYOAC  :cheers: :applaud:

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Lakersfan: I actually ran MANY queries on Craigslist ... I found it as "free" BUT it was not listed in the free category ... also the spelling was something like "27 NTSC monitor" (no inch double quote, etc) ... I just remember throwing search queries non stop varying spelling and elements ("27", then "monitor", etc) until I found this beauty... I emailed and the guy (head of a post-production / editing company) told me I was the first one on the list SO it was mine. I had the feeling that MANY OTHER tv stations / post-production freelance editors were also currently "throwing away" those amazing monitors. DO CALL and what the heck... just tell them what you are looking for! Tell them "it's better than adding to the landfill!" and "playing some old video games with my kids, it looks better on the old monitors" ...etc. GOOD LUCK.
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Awesome work ARTIFACT!  It is really coming together.  How did you mount the trackball - I see you used the plate but what type of opening did you cut underneath?   :cheers:

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thanks!

just a big square (5.6 '' as described on the happ diagrams.

:)

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**** ANOTHER UPDATE ****

. T-Molding installed
. Marquee retainers + marquee lexan "sandwich" installed

(marquee is not printed yet)

WOOW





 :cheers: :applaud:

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It's....stunning O_O

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BAM..a little t-mold and that retro-funk shape jumps right out at cha! NICE :applaud:



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Looks sweet ARTIFACT.

Question: Did you free hand the routing for flush mounting the trackball plate?
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Wow! The CP is coming along great! I'm so excited to start mine. You've given me confidence to try! Can't wait to get away from work some. :p I can't believe how smooth everything looks. Do you still plan on putting plexi or lexan on the top?

Thanks for the tips on the monitor. I'll keep an eye on craigslist and maybe make some phone calls.

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Now that's what I'm talking about!!  T-molding makes everything POP.  You should be allowed to put it everywhere and on everything.   You are getting really close to finishing and at the pace you are moving I'd expect you to be done very soon.  Time to start thinking about #2.  :cheers:

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Awesome work fella!

Coming along real nice. Love the fact that it's pretty much spot on with your original Sketch-Up design.

You must be very proud!  :applaud:  :notworthy:

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hi everyone!

how awesome to see your posts while waking up and drinking my cup of coffee :)

thank you SO MUCH for everything you contribute: you own awesome projects that inspire everyone else, all the information you post on BYOAC, the PMs you sent me out of the blue providing me even more info and 'checking' on my progress, and your encouragements. You are all so great, i can only make progress in this environment! you give me energy it is hard not to thank you guys in each post I make on byoac ... :)

anyways last night I started wiring (wires th exact lengths,etc) and realized i should watch out on not painting myself into a corner here (no CPO, lexan top, adjusted contour / sanded, or wood fill on trackball mount yet).

I think I'll take care of these things next.

also th monitor isn't 100 percent fixed yet (angle, decasing, reposition circuit boards etc). all thes wires inside are daunting and im scared im going to disconnect something and be stuck there). plus i have to be able to remove the screen a the end to move the cab to its final destination (upstairs den / family room).. THAT is  problem btw... im scared i wont be ale to hold the tube without the case around it (it has handles) and kill myself unplugging it from the circuit boards...

your input is welcome.
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Question: Did you free hand the routing for flush mounting the trackball plate?

Yes. It's not the cleanest job, but since the gaps will have wood fill and that it is going to be covered (CPO printed + lexan) ...

:)

My first CP...

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**** UPDATE TIME ****

. CP Lexan Top! Cut all the holes (using hole saws, clamped plywood over sandwiching Lexan sheet to avoid glitches)
. Test CPO artwork printed (inkjet ... testing only!)
. Test CPO holes cut (x-acto knife thru Lexan holes and CP holes as guides/templates)

NEXT: ORDER *PROPER* CPO + Marquee from mamemarquees.com  :applaud:

Ohhh  and of course... MORE PICS!

Lexan holes cut:


CP + Lexan clamped, "test" CP Artwork sandwiched, cutting holes:


"test" CP Artwork ready, you can see the "lines" between the 3 sheets used to print the test - nice "shine" with the Lexan top:


Of course... this is a "test" and everything ... but I couldn't resist nesting the CP in the cab :) ... nothing is plugged/wired though ... looks NICE! :cheers:






Wait 'til I plug that super bright LED under the translucent blue trackball... OHHH  :cheers:
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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATE 8/27
« Reply #151 on: August 28, 2007, 10:42:03 am »
Looking good.  Nice job with the drilling of the holes, when I heard you describe the process before I scrolled to the pictures I was worried.  I usually suggest a router for holes in plex or lexan, but the final product looks great.  What are you going to do for the part of the CP that is currently exposed wood?  Paint, or oversized CPO?

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATE 8/27
« Reply #152 on: August 28, 2007, 12:00:18 pm »
Wow - looking great!  I really like your CPO.  Nice job! :cheers:

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATE 8/27
« Reply #153 on: August 28, 2007, 12:03:16 pm »
Amazing!!!

Can u take a few more picture of the trackball at an angle where I can see it connect to the lexan as I think u might need to smooth the lexan a bit.  Like usual, see pic.

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATE 8/27
« Reply #154 on: August 28, 2007, 12:58:46 pm »
bfauska:

hey hey you can see inspiration from your template in my button layout :) not exactly the same but along the lines...

the CPO will be oversized and actually wrap around the front and bottom surface (see 3D mockup on page 2 or 3) it will look even better


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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATE 8/27
« Reply #155 on: August 28, 2007, 01:06:35 pm »
I was referring to the trackball hole in the lexan.  Curving it a little would look very nice if it's not already done.

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATE 8/27
« Reply #156 on: August 28, 2007, 01:15:37 pm »
I was referring to the trackball hole in the lexan.  Curving it a little would look very nice if it's not already done.

I was replying to a different question :) ... The lexan hole does need a little help/smoothing yep. It's not too bad because the lexan is only 1/16" thick, and I'm not 100% sure how to smooth/round that edge without messing it all up.

Any tips are welcome ;)

(thanks all for the encouragements!)

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATE 8/27
« Reply #157 on: August 28, 2007, 01:47:49 pm »
Easiest way is take a file and file it down a bit at a 90 degree angle around the whole circle   then using ultra fine grit sand paper and sand it to smooth. 

The other method would be use a round (think that's right bit name) router bit and round it out a bit.

Most round it to either touch or go a little bit below the trackball lip.  I use a file and sand paper on mine as I didn't have the correct router bit to use. 

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATE 8/27
« Reply #158 on: August 28, 2007, 02:08:00 pm »
the file technique sounds good (and your end product is perfect!) ... 1/16" is so thin, I think I'd destroy it with my huge router :) ... thanks again for all the tips!

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Re: ** ARTIFACT Game Museum ** Upright cab (scratch) - UPDATE 8/27
« Reply #159 on: August 28, 2007, 07:49:21 pm »
I hate you so much... in the best way you could imagine.  You've got a talent man.