Author Topic: Star Wars Cockpit......SHE LIVES !!!!! (Read 158472 times)

Level42 · « **Reply #520 on:** September 29, 2009, 12:18:53 pm »

Nah, vinyl gets hot and sweaty, I'm old enough to remember "fake-leather" car seats.

Vinyl comes from Suzo-Happ. Suzo head office is pretty close to where I live. Since Suzo and Happ merged, I can order about anything in the Happ catalogue (but regretfully not CRT monitors, when Happ still sold them).
The good thing about it is that there's no shipping costs, no minimum quantity, no customs hassles and I can get it straight from their counter. They do charge some extra of course, compared to the direct US dollar prices of Happ, and of course I have to pay 19% VAT.

The vinyl type is pica. It's not a 100% match, but it comes very close.

http://www.happcontrols.com/vending/acesor/49057200.htm

Rich from thisoldgame.com sells "atari" vinyl, .

There's an interesting thread on KLOV forum about vinyl that shows the "Atari" vinyl (Oracal 651):

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=105105&highlight=vinyl

Patrick: My wife's uncle owns a rather large chain of stores (Duifhuizen) in leather, bags and suitcases etc. His son does all repair work for Delsey and Samsonite in the Netherlands. Other sons are on markets (Travel-Man) with purses and bags etc. The old man (and I mean that in a very respectful way) did the leather cushions on those stools and I had to only pay the material costs, which is still not really cheap because of furniture leather in good quality=expensive. But it looks and feels and sits amazing.

Still.....this was just an idea.....got much more important things to fixe first. Like the YOKE !

Level42 · « **Reply #521 on:** September 29, 2009, 12:32:57 pm »

If you though I was done vinyling.....

I put the JBL speakers in the marquee section to hear what it sounds like. I'd say impressive. Still need to pick up another set.
I also need to look into the speaker grills.

The seat also has to be re-vinyled. The seat itself is the same vinyl that Atari used on all the parts I did before. Pretty amazing that it's so durable. The back board seems to be covered with the laminate that is also used in kick-plates on games like Centipede and Missile command, because it's totally smooth without any structure. Not sure if I will replace this. Maybe I can put some new vinyl over it.

Muerto · « **Reply #522 on:** September 29, 2009, 12:35:48 pm »

speaker grilles? - what´s wrong with them?

Level42 · « **Reply #523 on:** September 29, 2009, 12:36:49 pm »

Read all about speakers, grills etc. a couple of pages back in this thread

hatrick · « **Reply #524 on:** October 02, 2009, 11:02:33 am »

She is looking good. Nice work! I'm hoping to get started on my UR soon. Everytime I walk out to the garage, I have to overcome the urge to work on it to get some other stuff done first! I need to sell a couple games so I have room to work on it

Level42 · « **Reply #525 on:** October 09, 2009, 11:06:08 am »

“Help me Obi-Wan Davidobi. You’re my only hope.”

Daviea · « **Reply #526 on:** October 11, 2009, 02:41:09 pm »

Hey Andre,

Your project has come a long way and it's looking real good!!

I just wanted to let you know that I was able to use that bracket and recreate the solidworks model for it. I've attached a JPG version of the model so you can SEE what it looks like. It turned out perfect.

Anyhow, I just sent over a couple of semi-lengthy emails your way, so watch for them. Please get back to me ASAP, too.

I love the attention to detail, btw!!

Talk to you soon.

Dave

Level42 · « **Reply #527 on:** October 11, 2009, 05:33:42 pm »

Wow, that looks like you can actually touch it !

I just e-mailed you a reply with some explanation...more later.

Cheers, and thank you !

Daviea · « **Reply #528 on:** October 12, 2009, 03:31:00 pm »

I was interested in this specific topic because I've been meaning to reproduce those stickers myself.

I went to check out their size (zinfer.com) but it's not working. Does anyone have pictures or more information on whatever they have/had available??

Maybe they have a NEW website??

Thanks

Dave

Quote from: m_mcgover on September 22, 2009, 08:15:56 am

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Installed the vent cover. I'm a bit hasitant to put back the serial plate. It looks so tight now....not sure if it would spoil it or not....
I guess I will go for it anyway....

Level42-

First of all, thanks for the write-up and pictures...maybe I will vinyl afterall. It does look very good. And, checking the Happ site, the cost is pretty small for the vinyl...Hmmm....

So, do I *really* need to remove all of the old vinyl? With some of the restoration I've done, I have pieces that are part vinyl, part bondo, part original wood. Will the new vinyl adhesive not stick to the original stuff? And, once this is one there, how well does it adhere? Am I going to be gluing down edges in a few years?

I think I may make your day on the labels...depending of course on how "original" you want your cockpit vs. how "restored." Check out this link for someone that sells replacement Atari stickers. I cannot link directly there, but go to:

http://zinfer.com/

and click on "products" tab on the top. From there, you can purchase replacement Atari labels. You may need to work with him since yours is Ireland and his are likely US.

Cheers!

Level42 · « **Reply #529 on:** October 14, 2009, 06:19:01 am »

Yikes, they seem to have disappeared !

I only got that picture of that Atari Football cocktail a page or 2 ago......

David, my wife just called telling me a package from the US had arrived !!!

Thank you "Obi-Wan Davidobi" !!

I'll write you an e-mail tonight.....

Level42 · « **Reply #530 on:** October 23, 2009, 04:25:03 pm »

Right...

I've been plucking metal parts from various cabs that will need to be restored. The idea is to powder coat them, but I want to know the price first (hey's, it's a crisis). But they'll have to see everything first of course.

Anyway, I stripped the coindoor, and it's always a bit hurtful to see that something that looks pretty good at first glances, is in fact not that good at all....

First look, not bad:

and indeed, the upper door still looks very nice:

The real problem, is the lower door:

Star Wars obviously wasn't only very popular with players, but also with people who tried to earn some quick cash.
You can see the damaged rim. It's also the reason for those big extra holes and carriage bolts. These are not that terrible, at least they are spaced even. But look at those extra screws at the bottom.....unbelievable....

They're holding this:

No idea what's that doing there, but it's already in the trash of course.

The other holes were for some extra protection against thieves:

And judging the edge of the door, there was a need for it:

Of course, they're not needed anymore and they are HEAVY. Out they go !

The worst thing is that these metal pieces created a big dent on the top of the door when thieves again tried to break it open....

So, I'll have to fix those things. Or find a better door. I'm very tempted to remove the like-new door from my Mame cab........

Level42 · « **Reply #531 on:** October 23, 2009, 05:43:54 pm »

Hot news, the SW cockpit CPO repro by ThisOldGame.com is NOW available !

As probably well known, this is printed with the _original_ films from Atari. Rich had to do a LOT of work to get these 100% perfect. The search for the right vinyl, and problems with the original films all had to be solved, but here it is !

Now............... I am in serious doubt.

Of course, I have no doubt about wether I will order and install the full side-art set once it's ready.

But, should I get this as well ? On one hand, my CPO and yoke cover still look 9/10. Also, the Irish colors are of course a bit different (see earlier in this thread). On the other hand, if I get the full side-art, it will get "US" colors anyway. So, the inside should probably match the outside.....

Really unsure what to do, let me know what you guys think !!!!!

BamBam · « **Reply #532 on:** October 25, 2009, 10:14:15 am »

I still remember playing that game for the first time and thinking that gaming graphics just didn't get any better than this. I probably deposited enough quarters in that thing to buy my own new one. When you get tired of it (hopefully before Christmas), feel free to Fedex it to me

Level42 · « **Reply #533 on:** October 25, 2009, 11:54:53 am »

Quote from: BamBam on October 25, 2009, 10:14:15 am

I still remember playing that game for the first time and thinking that gaming graphics just didn't get any better than this.

Little did you know that you were right !

Quote from: BamBam on October 25, 2009, 10:14:15 am

I probably deposited enough quarters in that thing to buy my own new one. When you get tired of it (hopefully before Christmas), feel free to Fedex it to me

You won't believe the offers I've had for it....

RayB · « **Reply #534 on:** October 25, 2009, 06:17:49 pm »

9/10 ? Keep em.

Bluepoint · « **Reply #535 on:** October 28, 2009, 01:07:26 am »

Quote from: Level42 on May 10, 2009, 04:34:57 am

m-mcgover was nice enough to measure the (missing) backdoor for me....thanks !

For "archival" purposes I link to the file here:

Maybe this was already covered here. But didn't the original back doors have standoffs built into them? Like this:

Level42 · « **Reply #536 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:10:45 am »

No. Never seen those on any other SW cockpit, or the drawings. Must be operator installation.

ckong · « **Reply #537 on:** January 10, 2010, 10:29:43 am »

Quote from: Level42 on September 16, 2008, 05:42:20 pm

LOL

'Hersteller' André Huijts. Hersteller is German for 'manufacturer'. Since when did you get into the arcade manufacturing business André?

BTW, this article is not in German language, but in 'Belgium Dutch' language

Level42 · « **Reply #538 on:** January 10, 2010, 04:08:09 pm »

Erik, I know you worked a lot in Germany and live pretty close to the German border, but "hersteller" in Dutch means "degene die iets herstelt". (he who repairs something)

herstellen = repareren (=to repair)

Onze zuiderburen hebben soms mooie uitdrukkingen. Bestel nooit een biertje maar altijd een pintje. Een timmerman is een schrijnwerker. En zo kunnen we nog wel even doorgaan.

(For the English speaking people here, The Norhtern part of Belgium speaks Dutch but it's sometimes quite different from "real" Dutch. We usually call it Flemish. I quite enjoy it because it sounds much more soft then our hard tongue)

ckong · « **Reply #539 on:** January 10, 2010, 04:32:05 pm »

OK, thanks for clearing this up

Spyridon · « **Reply #540 on:** January 13, 2010, 07:34:10 pm »

Quote from: Level42 on January 10, 2010, 04:08:09 pm

herstellen = repareren (=to repair)

I like manufacturer better!

ckong · « **Reply #541 on:** January 15, 2010, 09:42:52 am »

Quote from: rovingmind on October 25, 2007, 05:16:29 pm

other posters from the star wars saga. I dont know if you've seen all of these but I think they are cool.

And very expensive

You can buy at least one SW cockpit for every poster posted.

Level42 · « **Reply #542 on:** January 15, 2010, 01:52:39 pm »

That can't be right, can it ?!?!?!

Insane !

ckong · « **Reply #543 on:** January 15, 2010, 02:54:05 pm »

Great topic, and GREAT restoration project.

André, my friend, I am sure that you know exactly what I feel right now, it will only be a few more weeks before I will have my own SW cockpit.

And I am very happy that you live almost around the corner of my place (I mean, 175 km's is less than a 2 hour drive), it will be easy to share information and help each other (although, I suppose that I will be the one asking all kind of questions

)

I'm looking forward to our road trip.

Spyridon · « **Reply #544 on:** February 19, 2010, 04:34:13 pm »

ThisOldGame just announced preorders on the cockpit backglass.

ckong · « **Reply #545 on:** February 19, 2010, 05:25:18 pm »

That is good news

Although my cockpit is an euro version, I probably still will order this one as I also will replace the Euro cockpit art with US art.

Level42 · « **Reply #546 on:** February 26, 2010, 05:18:27 pm »

Not sure if Rich is reading up here, but how about selling the film only ? It's a bit risky/unnecessary/costly to ship the glass IMHO ? Can't be hard to get a piece of glass locally...

Once again, I'm in doubt. My original Irish one is in almost perfect condition. Yes, it will match the side-art sets (that I definitely will get) much better of course. But my cockpit is going to be a "hybrid" anyway since I've decided to leave the original artwork on the inside of the cab.

Rich, if you're reading this, here is also an official request to not forget the carton-bezel. So far, I've seen the original cockpit bezel present on only one machine: mine. I've seen about 6 or 7 other cockpits and they all lack the bezel (or have them in poor quality).
I also officially offer mine up for scanning/measuring etc. if that should be needed.

Level42 · « **Reply #547 on:** February 27, 2010, 05:43:02 pm »

In the mean time, I finally got my powder coated parts back !!! Woohoo !

There are "matt" black parts (which look grey with flash pictures) and some "shiny" parts. There are also Euro-Joust, Missile Command Cabaret top "retainer" and Pac Man (Spyridon !) parts in the lot, but I'll list them here anyway....

I LOVE the handles, they are SO much nicer now. And it goes for all the other parts as well of course !

Gotta thank Superully for helping me to get these things powdercoated !!!

Now, I've got everything that it takes to re-assemble the yoke: the powdercoated parts, the bolts and screws, the full RAM controls rebuilt kit, the only thing I need now is............time !

Spyridon · « **Reply #548 on:** February 27, 2010, 09:38:18 pm »

That powder coating looks nice. I really need to find someone locally that can do that for me.

ckong · « **Reply #549 on:** February 28, 2010, 09:10:50 am »

Quote from: Level42 on February 26, 2010, 05:18:27 pm

Not sure if Rich is reading up here, but how about selling the film only ? It's a bit risky/unnecessary/costly to ship the glass IMHO ? Can't be hard to get a piece of glass locally...

+1

SirPeale · « **Reply #550 on:** March 01, 2010, 03:44:50 pm »

Quote from: Spyridon on February 27, 2010, 09:38:18 pm

That powder coating looks nice. I really need to find someone locally that can do that for me.

If you can't find anyone locally, the guy I share shop space with owns a powdercoating business. He's been doing almost exclusively mail-order style. He custom-coats car audio equipment mostly, but I've been trying to get him to branch out into arcade parts.

Daviea · « **Reply #551 on:** March 25, 2010, 07:42:13 pm »

This is my most favorite thread ever!!! Whenever I come back to check it out, there's always so much more cool stuff to read and look at. LOVE IT!!!!

BTW, those powder coated parts sure do look purdy!!

Dave

Level42 · « **Reply #552 on:** March 26, 2010, 06:37:55 pm »

Thanks David

The yoke turned out fabulous, as I expected !!!

Congrats on finishing it, I'm sure it's a relief !

Yeah, the powder coating looks brilliant !

So, since spring has started, "arcade season" is open again

I hope to start re-assembling my yoke soon. Gonna need some of that stuff to lube the gears

(Damn I still need to send you something.....I think I will go ask some advice how to ship it....)

Daviea · « **Reply #553 on:** March 26, 2010, 07:32:42 pm »

No problem. I've been using this thread of yours as a reference point on and off for quite some time now. There's just so much good info packed into it, I can't help but to return often. :-)

I'm really happy with the yoke and how it turned out. Yes, definitely a relief!!

Whatever you need, just send me your shopping list and it's done. :-)

No hurry on that part -- I know you're a busy guy, so I haven't bothered you about it. Whenever you can get it over to me, I'll start the process. BTW, I'm going to be laser cutting those acrylic parts, most likely. :-) Why? Because I can! LOL

Thanks

Dave

Level42 · « **Reply #554 on:** April 01, 2010, 05:43:35 am »

It was a hard decision, but I decided to sell the SW cockpit.

Since it's not likely any US buyers will be intrested, I put this on the Dragonslairsforum:

The reason why is also explained there.

http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?board=10.0

hatrick · « **Reply #555 on:** April 01, 2010, 02:19:52 pm »

Quote from: Level42 on April 01, 2010, 05:43:35 am

It was a hard decision, but I decided to sell the SW cockpit.

Since it's not likely any US buyers will be intrested, I put this on the Dragonslairsforum:

The reason why is also explained there.

http://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?board=10.0

I'm interested. I have a container truck full of bronze age and early 80's Atari games shipping from the Netherlands next week. There is room on it for your Star Wars cockpit. Name the price.

Level42 · « **Reply #556 on:** April 04, 2010, 05:14:02 am »

Of course selling the SW cockpit was a 1 april fool.........

Somewhat related, just ordered this great shirt for my son......

ckong · « **Reply #557 on:** April 04, 2010, 07:08:28 am »

Great T-shirt, where did you order it?

Level42 · « **Reply #558 on:** April 04, 2010, 04:15:19 pm »

H&M, but I'm afraid it's kid's size only:

http://shop.hm.com/nl/shoppingwindow?dept=BARN_STPO_OVE_TSHIRT&shoptype=S

ckong · « **Reply #559 on:** April 04, 2010, 08:08:41 pm »

haha, and you know that I don't have a kid size

But I was thinking of it as gameroom decoration.


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