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Pinbox/Jukeball
« on: June 15, 2007, 07:03:10 pm »
Oh, well... Yet another Psychotech creation on its way.

This time it'll be a portable wall mount / bartop pinball.. Actually, it'll be a portable wall mount / bartop jukebox.. No, wait! It'll be a portable wall mount / bartop MAME machine ..

All right, I'm going to build a portable wallmount/bartop pinball/jukebox/mame minimonster... :)

Machine & stuff at the moment:

17" Philips TFT monitor @ 1280x1024
Pentium 3 866MHz with 384Mb memory
40Gb (maybe 55Gb) HD
Ati Radeon 9100 graphics with d-sub/dvi/s-vid out
4-port USB hub
Wireless FM transmitter.. :)
At least 25 buttons ...
One thumbstick controller

After playing pinball on the Bombjack bartop a friend happened to mention how cool it would be to have a portable pinball machine you could take with you wherever... Well, a portable pinball, cool? Add MAME, might be awesome? Something's missing .. add the jukebox and ?

The machine is "under construction", actually still on the drawing board :) Anyway, some quick drawings of the profile & the CP. You'll get the idea.

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Machine profile when used as a pinball / MAME bartop




Control panel view when used as a pinball / MAME bartop



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Profile when used as a jukebox



Control panel view when used as a jukebox



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So, add a handle and you're ready to go?

Comments, ideas, etc. at this point?


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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2007, 07:07:04 pm »
Woah this is going to be really cool.  I'll be following this for sure.

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2007, 07:39:01 pm »

Definite potential.

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2007, 09:08:37 pm »
Really unique idea flipping the screen for function.   You could get rid of the selection buttons by using a touchscreen for the jukebox action.  But maybe buttons are part of the juke feel of your project.  Just guessing :applaud:

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2007, 01:36:47 am »
Another bartop?  I'm looking forward to see what you come up with the day you build a full sized cab.

This is a great profile/idea.  Making it rotatable poses a couple of problems;  Text & artwork orientation and the operations of the thumbstick.

The text you could make orientation agnostic by making it vertical.

The thumbstick could be done with a mercury switch wired into a couple of relays.  When in one position, up is up & down is down.  In another position, up is down & down is up.

Any ideas for artwork and/or colors?

Good luck with this one.

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2007, 08:11:20 am »
The orientation problem is EASY.
Your juke gets a different native orientation than your pinmame program - instant switching. For controls, you reassign controls with your IPAC, or within the program INI files - instant control switching.

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2007, 08:49:40 am »
Thanks for the comments.

BobA: I already have a "normal" 17" TFT for this project so.. no touchscreen but miniature buttons all around. Normal pushbuttons for flippers (& plunger) only.

theCoder & shardian: Yes ...the juke is upside down if viewed from the pinball side and vice versa ..like shardian noted, it'll be quite easy to define the keys in the programs' ini-files. The screen rotation will most likely be handled with another button (the Radeon cards have quite nice rotation features without the need for third party proggies like irotate..) switching between 0 & 180 orientation ..or if possible, I'll define the rotation in the program INIs too. Still, it's all in the planning stages at the moment, we'll see ..?

On the artwork front, no real ideas yet. Split CP graphics ?

The software, most likely:
Mala with MAME & Visual Pinball for games and SK-Jukebox

And remember, NO DEADLINE. It'll be done as soon as it's done ;)

Updates sooner or later..

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2007, 07:05:09 pm »
This is not an update. Just counting my cattle..

SK-Jukebox:
Numeric BTNs x 10
Prev screen BTN
Next screen BTN
Random play BTN
Quit BTN
Jump BTN
Enter BTN

Visual Pinball:
Credits BTN
Start/Players BTN
Plunger BTN
Quit BTN
Flipper BTNs x 2
Nudge BTNs x 3

MAME:
Direction BTNs x 4
Action BTNs x 4
Credits BTN
Quit BTN
Start BTNs x 2

MALA:
Direction BTNs x 4
Menu BTN
Select BTN
Quit BTN

Admin/Other:
Reset BTN
Power ON/OFF BTN
Shazaaam! BTN
Ctrl BTN
Alt BTN

Don't even want to know the button count :)

Looks like quite a few.., no? Well, crapmame here I come! (http://www.wickedretarded.com/~crapmame/)

And that's not all, add to that at least the volume controls, power connector(s), one (or two) cooling fans, a 4-port USB hub, one wireless FM-transmitter, S-Video & DVI outs and two ps2 connectors for keyboard & mouse.. Could I squeeze a DVD-ROM drive in there? Might be I'm forgetting something ... :)

Might need some organizing...

Later..

EDIT  ::)

Did actually forget something:

1 composite out
1 S-vid out

Oh crap  :laugh2:

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2007, 07:44:43 pm »
The orientation problem is EASY.
Your juke gets a different native orientation than your pinmame program - instant switching. For controls, you reassign controls with your IPAC, or within the program INI files - instant control switching.
Doh... much better than my mechanical solution.  Great recommendation shardian.

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2007, 08:24:26 pm »
Yesh..

That approach works nicely. And with SK-Jukebox you don't even have to edit the INI files .. Great software!

Really, no need to make it too complicated..?

theCoder: Another bartop?
Well, no space to comfortably build a full size upright at the moment .. Easier to just work on these miniatures when the inspiration comes/stupidity strikes/whatever..   ::)

L8r.

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2007, 08:42:30 pm »
...

A couple of pictures. Nothing much. Still, it's progress..

First rough cuts (This time I'm really going high tech ..a hand saw ;) )


So, the pix:

1. The hand sawed rough cut with the MB "in place"

2. Sides rounded & supports in place - Pinball/MAME orientation

3. Same stuff as a jukebox ..and the warped (green) bottom plate!

Later :)

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2007, 10:19:38 am »
A juke is going to be one of my projects down the road.  I'll defiantly be watching this one.  For true portability you could use a laptop.

TTFN :cheers:

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2007, 06:51:22 pm »
A juke is going to be one of my projects down the road.  I'll defiantly be watching this one.  For true portability you could use a laptop.

TTFN :cheers:

Hello.

Well, portable as in "moveable"..

Anyway, if it was going to be just a jukebox the laptop route would be awesome. But as it is, I'm building this to work as not only a jukebox (although definitely its main purpose) but as a MAME and a pinball machine also. And as a pinball the weight & size of the normal PC parts is actually a good thing ;) ..wouldn't even dream of playing Visual Pinball tables on Tomatocade because of it being so light ..Bombjack, on the other hand is quite heavy and handles VP with the players' occasional (though unnecessary) nudges really well :)

Another update in a few days..

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2007, 08:55:57 pm »
Still alive, almost (too hot here at the moment).

Still, new pictures of the build so far. Control panel is still very much WIP and there's going to be more holes on either the "main admin panel" or the "bottom panel" as soon as I decide where to add the holes for an optical digital audio out & a basic network card..

Anyway, pictures in no particular order:

Bottom panel:

Mouse, keyboard, composite, S-video & DVI video outputs with an RCA stereo out & a power connector.

Main admin panel:

Shazaaam! centered ..with lots of other nice features :)

Pinball control panel:

L-R: Credits, players, plunger (MAME: credits, player 1, player 2).

DVD side:

Lew, screwholes to cover .. ;)

DVD (in)side:


FAN side with a couple more of them screws:


FAN (in)side:


An old mock-up picture with the DVD almost at the right place:


Well, that's it for the pictures .. I'll add a remote controller etc. but ...

Later, again.

psychotech

PS. A "local" radio webcast @ http://stream.radiorock.fi/listen.pls ..A 24/7 rock/hardrock/metal soundtrack to build your own ..

EDIT: The radio link above ..sorry, should work now :)

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2007, 08:58:40 pm »
Lookin good - what kind of music are you going to play on that thing?

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2007, 09:28:59 pm »
 ::)

Thanks, might even be able to make it ..?

Lookin good - what kind of music are you going to play on that thing?
Check out the link... and add all the other pop/rock/hard rock/metal/r&b/punk/ska/disco/ethnic/blues/etc. bands/songs/styles from the 60's to the present day you're able to imagine  ;D ..A good song is a good song, never mind the "style", ..styles are for :censored: anyway. So, everything good :)
 
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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2007, 10:22:04 am »
Nice progress.  I take it you will be de-casing the 17" monitor.  Looks like you've squeezed all the extra space out of the thing.  Very nice.  Also, you mentioned using a thumb controller.  Will you be hacking one out of a console controller or buying something off-the-shelf?

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2007, 07:45:24 pm »
;)

No "real" plans this time either. But yeah.. All measurements mentioned in this thread will be metric. Actually, millimeters if not otherwise stated ..

Coder: Thanks. And NO, I won't decase the monitor. I'm using a 17" TFT monitor that is about (+/- 0,5mm) 63mm deep with all the buttons etc. considered. And yes, it's going to be a tight fit; between the graphics card and the monitor mount there's going to be all of 2,5mm of "wasted" space. Just hoping I've done my calculations right..

The monitor attaches to the "recessed" supports seen on the inside pics of the sides. Actually, the control panel won't be connected to the monitor at all. More of that later, maybe ..?

Picture 1 of the monitor: flat on its back...


Picture 2 of the monitor:


Picture 3 of the monitor: Not that deep ?


Anyway, more info on everything as soon as ......

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Comments, ideas etc. are always welcome :)

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Back in a moment.

psychotech


PS. Lew:

T-molding?

Ordered t-molding for the Bombjack and for this new project. It arrived as t-molding. And after a few minutes with a sharp carpet knife.. Here's the T:



All I need is the molding .. (and my freshly black painted DVD-ROM for this juke ;) )



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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2007, 08:40:34 pm »
Ordered t-molding for the Bombjack and for this new project. It arrived as t-molding. And after a few minutes with a sharp carpet knife..

You turned T molding into l molding... So then... whats the plan? Glue?

Did you have some sort of horrible router/t-molding accident when you were a kid?

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2007, 09:05:22 pm »
I have a feeling you are going to have a hard time getting that molding to stick.  Unless you use finish nails or brads.

Glad to see you back at it.  It is starting to take shape and I can't wait to see the final results.

TTFN

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2007, 09:21:43 pm »
I have a feeling you are going to have a hard time getting that molding to stick. 

Psychotech? Hard time? Shoot. The dude won't have a hard time. Guarantee it.  Did you read his other PA?

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2007, 09:38:25 pm »
Lew!

How did you know?

Actually, it was my 15th birthday as I was working at the family factory mixing cocaine when my father promised to buy me a real nice plane (as long as I'd fly a couple of packages a month..) for my birthday :) Well.. So, I went to speak to Hans (our family mechanic at the time) about ...

:=)

No fear of power tools, ..but still no need for them either :) Just being an..

All the best with your new project ;)

Kaytrim:

It STICKS!

I've already done that on Bombjack, about two months ago.. Sticks nicely, actually. The machine has been used and abused quite a lot. And the molding stays in place. (have to say that in the eighties I saw quite a few times the machine sides & moldings repaired with contact glue)

You'll just need to leave the edge "kinda rough" and use a double helping of contact glue on the MDF side: IE. One layer on the MDF, one layer on the "molding" and after a couple of minutes yet another layer on the MDF.. And after that? Patience, lots of patience. If it says "wait 15-40 minutes", it means wait 45 minutes :)

Works like a charm. If in doubt, you're welcome to test it here. Just phone me in advance ;)

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2007, 09:40:55 pm »
I have a feeling you are going to have a hard time getting that molding to stick. 

Psychotech? Hard time? Shoot. The dude won't have a hard time. Guarantee it.  Did you read his other PA?


Oh.. :laugh2:

Later, I'm having such a hard time just now...................................................................................................

 :cheers:

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2007, 09:28:16 am »

It STICKS!

I've already done that on Bombjack, about two months ago.. Sticks nicely, actually. The machine has been used and abused quite a lot. And the molding stays in place. (have to say that in the eighties I saw quite a few times the machine sides & moldings repaired with contact glue)

You'll just need to leave the edge "kinda rough" and use a double helping of contact glue on the MDF side: IE. One layer on the MDF, one layer on the "molding" and after a couple of minutes yet another layer on the MDF.. And after that? Patience, lots of patience. If it says "wait 15-40 minutes", it means wait 45 minutes :)

You mean the stuff that is used for laminate?  I have to agree that is some strong stuff.  I just didn't think that it would work so well with the rubber T-molding.


Works like a charm. If in doubt, you're welcome to test it here. Just phone me in advance ;)


Do you want to pay for my plane tickets?  I live in the states. ;D

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2007, 03:17:02 pm »
Kaytrim: Let's do it the other way around; you pay for my tickets (Finland-USA-Finland :) ) and I'll install the molding on your next project for free ..I'll even buy the contact glue myself so it'll be super cheap for you ;)

Still, just a quick update on the glued on (T) molding. I'll update the actual Bombjack thread with a load of pictures later today (tonight here..).

The molding was installed about two months ago and holds prrrrrfect ;) Have been playing pinball quite a lot these days..



So, no need for a router really :(

Later,

psychotech.

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2007, 05:05:08 pm »
..to an earlier question (theCoder) -> off-the-shelf this time.

Tried to find a suitable pad controller to hack (and actually bought one for 1,5 Euros - another build maybe  :cry: ) but as soon as I found this at www.arcadeshop.de it was a done deal :) (Not the cheapest option, but the first to actually sell these. Well, (T) molding & a thumbstick, everything else will be overseas -> 1 Euro = 1,38 USD at the moment ..and no 18% - 22% taxes to pay  :applaud: )



Now, off to update the Bombjack thread..

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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2007, 03:20:27 pm »
Looks like a really cool project.

It would be a pain in the A#@ to figure out but I think the artwork would be awesome if you could make is say one thing when you look at it one way and another when upside down.

Something along the lines of this doormat.


Edit: click the picture to see it rotate and show both ways
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Re: PinBox - JukeBall - ???
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2007, 07:33:01 pm »
Another night, another -small- update..

bfauska: Thanks! And it really would be a pain in .. ;) I'll have to think about the graphics a bit more. The button labeling/texts will be on both on top and below the buttons ..the below the button being readable .. We'll see?

A few more pictures I took while checking some final details before taking it all apart again ..for sanding & painting. No, it won't be done anytime soon :(

A jukebox


A pinball..


Yes, a pinball.


Hang 'em high ..with metal reinforcements (padlocks, anyone..)


Checking the DVD installation.. almost half a millimeter to spare :)


That's it. Now, some sanding & detailing before taking it all apart for paint & (glued on) molding ?!

Back again.

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Re: JukeBox / Pinball Wizard
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2007, 08:36:06 pm »
Well..

Room enough :)



Not even tight..



Bad design == wasted space || too tight a fit ..?



That's all. Next I'll just ... go and electrocute myself with all the wiring.

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Re: JukeBox / Pinball Wizard
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2007, 12:11:42 am »
Hey Psychotech,
what kind of powerbar is that?

Is that the electrical standard outlet?

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Re: JukeBox / Pinball Wizard
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2007, 08:47:49 am »
lookin good -

This thing should keep you warm at night.

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Re: JukeBox / Pinball Wizard
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2007, 07:26:54 pm »
!?

superbigjay:

Well, it's an European version of the Smartstip. A close up pic:




leapinlew:

;)

Warm? WARM? ..actually, not that tight/"warm" a fit, if you remember BOMBJACK ..? There's more space and even better airflow this time around ..And, yes, Bombjack runs really great! Well, we'll see..

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Re: JukeBox / Pinball Wizard
« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2007, 12:09:48 am »
That's coming together very nicely... can't wait for the next batch of photos.

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Re: JukeBox / Pinball Wizard
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2007, 03:25:11 am »
Man, this project is really taking shape.  Looks great.

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Re: JukeBox / Pinball Wizard
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2007, 08:58:03 pm »
Hello.

Anubis_au & theCoder:

Thanks for your kind comments.

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A couple more pictures. It doesn't seem like much of progress, but there are miles/kilometers of hidden wires, along with the few hundred feet/yards/meters in sight,  in the following pictures ..and all the components are in place and connected :)

I've tested the machine & the TFT, all the audio connections (quite a few of these, also), the main admin stuff etc. and also watched a couple of movies on the machine using the wireless audio option.. Everything - so far - works great. Also, all the pinball buttons etc. are wired..

So. Systematic chaos.

All the inside (bottom/back) wires are in place. You won't be able to tell it from these pics, but there are quite a few ;)

On the CP design front; I've got the main control button txt's etc. ready, but still no ideas about the actual CP graphics.


Yes, I know it looks like a mess. And it is, but it IS a systematic mess - with a push button in the middle...



Jukebox bottom/Pinball back (the connection panel) and the angled primary admin panel ..the finish of which I managed to partially ruin with a screwdriver while installing the 4-port USB hub :(  ..Oh well, might have to "fix it in the mix".. Also in the picture, two of the three available (female) power connectors.



A tight fit? Well..

The bartop/jukebox/pinball sides were done a bit differently (surprise?) this time and so aren't that easily photographed. Maybe later though; a leathery texture done with water based acrylics - looks pretty nice live, with flash, no way.



Thanks for your time :)

And I might even start working on the main CP, someday  ::)

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Re: JukeBox / Pinball Wizard
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2007, 11:51:45 pm »
Looks great.  Can't wait to see the main CP.

Keep the pictures coming.

 :cheers:

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Re: JukeBox / Pinball Wizard
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2007, 10:04:55 am »
A slight return..

Thanks Kentoad!

Well, the CP itself should be quite easy, it's just the graphics/theme I have no idea of at the moment. So, can't really drill any button holes etc. before the gfx are done :(

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Current status of the Jukebox/Pinball project:

Everything works! The scratch on the admin panel (on an above pic) won't actually be seen, so..



Now, if there was a control panel on this thing.. Also, looking at this picture it seems that I have to adjust the DVD-drive mounting almost a half millimeter  :-[


Nothing too bad here, just needs black flipper buttons?



Another view of the "leathery" side finish:



Yes, I really ought to start designing & building the main control panel.. :cry:

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Re: JukeBox / Pinball Wizard
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2007, 10:51:33 am »

Very cool little project, professional looking too. :)

I must have missed it, are you putting a piece of glass/plexi over the entire top surface?

Touchscreen would be cool for the jukebox, of course you couldn't put glass over it then..hmm

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Re: JukeBox / Pinball Wizard
« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2007, 12:30:14 pm »
The paint looks great.  Could you elaborate a little.  How "textured" is it?  How did you apply it?

Regarding your artwork, you might consider wrapping text around the buttons similar below.  This way it is orientation agnostic, ur, uh, works from any direction. 

Look'n good.

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Re: JukeBox / Pinball Wizard
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2007, 04:32:11 pm »
Thanks for your comments  .. & questions :)

Knievel:

No touchscreens here but quite a basic mini button solution with SK-Jukebox. (See the first post on this thread for button placement etc.)

And yes, the entire main CP will be covered with a 2 or 3mm plexi. Actually, the CP will be a 3 (or 4 if you count the graphics) layer solution; 1st there'll be an 9mm plywood panel with a hole for the TFT-housing (another tight fit); on top of that I'll put a 5mm piece of plywood that also covers the TFT's bezel area.. Next the graphics and finally the plexi. The layer approach I chose because of all the stuff yet to be installed on the CP etc. More on that later.


theCoder:

The whole machine is painted with water based acrylics ..I'm just using MDF as my canvas :) Even though the paint is water dilutable, it is quite (spell: really) tough once it has dried thoroughly. Anyway, I'm quite sure this method works with other paints too..?

All the surfaces, smooth & textured, were painted with a good quality foam roller. The only difference between the smooth and the textured surfaces is that for the textured finish I diluted the paint only very slightly.

And in reality.. (Prompt is the word here.) Use a senseless amount of that phat paint and spread a good thick layer of it evenly on the surface. To get a textured finish you'll have to roll "some" excess paint off the roller and then carefully let it roll over the surface ..do not apply more pressure than absolutely necessary to have it rolling.. Promptly ;) NOT -> See below: EDIT

It's not the easiest surface to capture on camera, but here are a couple of pics:

A really bad close-up...


And more of the same area ..


On the artwork front, you're pretty close to what I've done. Still, the button texts etc. are not the problem. It's just that I haven't decided on the "background" graphics for the bezel area... Don't want the entire machine to be "just" black.

Actually, as the machine will be viewed from two opposing directions my solution for the controllers goes like this:



That's all for now.

psychotech

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EDIT / Correction

The textured finish info above: Should have said that..

You'll have to keep the foam roller "loaded" to achieve the leathery textured surface. Do not roll any paint off the roller in the end (quite the opposite) but just carefully let it roll over the surface ..do not apply more pressure than absolutely necessary to have it rolling..

This way it's even more difficult 'cause the roller just wants to slide over the surface, but ...

You're mileage might wary :) ..I'd test (I did) it on scrap pieces of MDF before committing.

So, this is how it is done: use psychotic amounts of paint to start with and finish the surface with even more ;)

pt

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Re: JukeBox / Pinball Wizard
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2007, 08:59:39 am »
I have resolved the CP labeling blues. Elementary really. Use the Klingon alphabet. The benefits are two fold

1. If they don't know klingon, they won't know it's upside down
2. If they do know klingon, they won't mind if it's upside down

I'm thinking most folks will fall into the #1 category. You can thank me now if you like.  ;)


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Re: JukeBox / Pinball Wizard
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2007, 10:08:31 am »
This is really looking like it is going to turn out nice. :cheers:  Now get busy on the artwork so you can close up this bad boy.

Be on the lookout for a new announcement thread from me in the next week or two. >:D

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Re: JukeBox / Pinball Wizard
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2007, 04:51:44 pm »
Oh, well :)

leapinlew: that's just it! Thank you so very much  :notworthy: .. Do you accept cheques..?

 :laugh2:

Still, that's an awesome solution ...for someone else's Star Trek dedicated cabinet ;)

Kaytrim: Thanks! The more I get done the less "graphics" the CP seems to need.. We'll see? And as it happens the machine is closed as I'm writing this. Far from ready, but closed for the very first time (1980's Madonna...).

Still have to install quite a load of software and stuff and make all the software and the remote control speak the same language, etc. etc.

Quote
Be on the lookout for a new announcement thread from me in the next week or two.
You can count on that. I'll be lurking somewhere stage left ..as always :)

Anyway, thank you both for the comments on the project. Might even get something done this way  ??? Maybe.

One small update on the project:

Psychotic? Every other progress picture shows a different machine.. Anyway, this time it's a Pinball W.I.P. I'll replace the red side PB with a black one.


psychotech

PS. (Comments or) Questions ? I'm really getting lazy, so if there's something ..do ask ;)

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Re: Jukebox/Pinball/Arcade/Media Machine: Mama Im All Crazee Now ?
« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2007, 07:58:01 pm »
Alternatively: Look, no hands (Look, no brains ;) )

Sidetracked ..BIG time.

In no hurry to finish the main control panel...

............

Back in the middle/late 1990's when not all the ("cheap") PC's were able to play DVD titles with only their CPU power I had this decoder board with a remote control unit.. and I never threw it away even after it grew obsolete.

Ten years later: Jukebox/Pinball. Yeah, no use for the decoder board, but.. add PC Remote Control (http://www.pcremotecontrol.com/info.html) & the old RealMAGIC RC/receiver combo..



The RC software is quite easy to set up, at least on Win98SE.. So. I'm all wireless now*. And it all actually works :)

At the moment I've set up the machine to start with Mala and SK Jukebox. Full controll of all the jukebox features (plays all music & video files I've tried, so far..).  If I quit the juke I'm back at the main MaLa interface, with options to start MAME/Visual Pinball or the Jukebox ..or to watch movies/concert videos, etc.



* On the first announcement post I listed a wireless FM transmitter. Maybe I should have written "a wireless RADIO transmitter" instead ;) ? At the moment all the audio comes out of my main amplifier/receiver set - no wires. Maybe all this (FM/RC) has already been done to death, but still..



Later. On the air..

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Re: Jukebox/Pinball/Arcade/Media Machine: Mama Im All Crazee Now ?
« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2007, 08:15:17 pm »
Man, you're getting close.  This thing is looking great.

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Re: Jukebox/Pinball/Arcade/Media Machine: Mama Im All Crazee Now ?
« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2007, 05:58:09 pm »
Why not have someone make some of those funky designs that can be read either way... like in Angels & Demons or something...  I think they are called ambigrams...






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Re: Jukebox/Pinball/Arcade/Media Machine: Mama Im All Crazee Now ?
« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2007, 08:47:55 pm »
!

javeryh: Great idea ..And bfauska's idea looks really cool too..
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=67842.msg702478#msg702478

If there's more interest in ambigrams, this site might be useful: http://ambigram.matic.com/ambigram.htm

But, javeryh, as you've seen my builds before, you know I really like to build (and design/hack) my own arcade controls and everything related. This way, if I fail miserably ..I've got only myself to blame >:D Actually, the button txt's etc. are already done, I'm just not sure about the graphics under them...  ..still, I'm an ass and so, will do the CP the old fashioned way ..

Thank you for your interest, anyway  :cheers:

Gray on black, black on gray, gray surrounded with black...

Anyway, it won't be nothing much. Something simple. And the YELLOW thumbstick will ruin everything anyway  :'(

-> Yellow thumbstick -> yellow buttons for MAME. (L-R)
-> Red buttons for numerics...

Maybe...

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Re: Jukebox/Pinball/Arcade/Media Machine: Mama Im All Crazee Now ?
« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2007, 12:48:17 am »
Why not have someone make some of those funky designs that can be read either way... like in Angels & Demons or something...  I think they are called ambigrams...


I can't read these no matter which way I turn my head.

If I can't read it - it might as well be Klingon.

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Re: Jukebox/Pinball/Arcade/Media Machine: Mama Im All Crazee Now ?
« Reply #48 on: August 11, 2007, 01:49:20 am »
Gray on black, black on gray, gray surrounded with black...
Where's your color courage?

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Re: Jukebox/Pinball/Arcade/Media Machine: Mama Im All Crazee Now ?
« Reply #49 on: August 11, 2007, 10:40:30 am »
Why not have someone make some of those funky designs that can be read either way... like in Angels & Demons or something...  I think they are called ambigrams...


I can't read these no matter which way I turn my head.

If I can't read it - it might as well be Klingon.

ugh, I posted, there was an SQL error and the post dissappeared.

they say:
Angels & Demons/Earth Air Fire Water / Illuminati

and

Air Fire Earth Water

I can read em, but I dont really like em, lol
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Re: Jukebox/Pinball/Arcade/Media Machine: Mama Im All Crazee Now ?
« Reply #50 on: August 11, 2007, 08:16:13 pm »
Yeah, thanks for your interest and comments.

..........

Where's your color courage?
Oh, hmm, uh, wellllll ...So, I'm a color coward  :dunno ;)

Tomatocade; Red on red with just a bit more red.
Bombjack; Blue on blue with just a bit more blue ..and then some more blue.
So, a black jukebox and..? - There actually is a Dalbello album in the juke with a song named Black on Black ;)

Ambigrams, cool stuff when professionally done, otherwise.. I'll let someone else be the first one to use them on their machine :)

Anyway, instead of finishing the juke, I'm now trying to come up with "creative" uses of all the scrap pieces I've lying around from all these (3) builds so far.. Nothing arcade related, maybe..

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Re: Jukebox/Arcade Emulator/Pinball/Multimedia Player: Another Cheap Trick
« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2007, 08:09:47 pm »
Just a cheap mock-up this time. (No access to my ISP at the moment)

The main CP might (will?) be something alike, but at the moment I'm not sure if I really like it.. (Too much etc..)

Still, I just had to do a mock-up to see how it (would) could turn out. All the True Metal will come out through the

speakers/connectors/transmitter, maybe someday soon?

Just had to get back to page one :)

Questions, comments, ideas?!

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Re: Jukebox/Arcade Emulator/Pinball/Multimedia Player..
« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2007, 06:15:23 pm »
;)

So, the post above was not only cheap, but cheap & nasty :)

Still, another couple of pictures of the CP W.I.P. - Converting from 300dpi (roughly 7700 pixels horizontal etc.) to 72dpi (400 pixels horizontal) for web really works ..NOT!

The parts pictured here actually have quite detailed surfaces (lighting/texture/etc.). Hope these pics don't look as GD'd awful.. ;)

Part of the probable main jukebox control panel:


And the eye (Ball) that still needs some tweaking... (The remote control receiver will be centered under it.)


A work in process..

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Re: Jukebox/Arcade Emulator/Pinball/Multimedia Player..
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2007, 08:06:57 pm »
Hell. O.

Same old **i* in a different package. No real progress, only more color cowardice  :o

At least I managed to place an order for a control panel layout..

Jukebox:


Tried to strip the graphics down as much I could, but the arch on the juke's top, as stupid as it actually looks, just kept on coming back... for it might actually look almost good when the cab is used as a pinball machine..

Pinball:


Just needs to be "seen/visualized" in 3D ..

..........

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - Beat Me Senseless
« Reply #54 on: August 30, 2007, 08:48:26 pm »
Yeah, I know..

Still, a couple more pictures to show the construction of..?

A sunburst 1967 Gibson Les Paul, no? :)


Might just as well frame that..


The Eye of Ra. Behind a 1mm plexi to .. "If you have to ask, you'll never know".


(W)hole Lotta Rosie ?


..and the frame.


..the man behind the mask


So, ..so?

Whaddya think?

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - Beat Me Senseless
« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2007, 12:57:08 am »
This is going to be awesome psychotech.

The detail in your built always impress me

Jay  :cheers:

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - Beat Me Senseless
« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2007, 05:20:20 am »
Thanks!

..and good luck with the marquee design  :cheers:

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - Fresh Fruit For ...
« Reply #57 on: August 31, 2007, 07:23:50 pm »
:)

Oh s**t! Now it's a theme park.. for old prog-rock farts!  :laugh2:


Pictures of the MaLa FE in no particular order:

M.A.M.E.


Movies


Jukebox ..?


Concert videos ..from Kylie to Slayer, go figure  :dizzy:


Pinball ..old tables only @ the moment (ATI gfx...)



While not entirely happy with the main CP graphics, the MaLa screens I almost do like. So, not all is lost. Might have to design another CP overlay later on and should really add snaps of the videos and something alike for the jukebox...?

Might remove the "Moving Pictures" and just add more music & videos instead. Even though there is a DVI out on the juke, I'm not so sure the feature would get much use?

Anyway, that's where I'm at at the moment. Should be done in ..the future :)

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - Fresh Fruit For ...
« Reply #58 on: August 31, 2007, 08:04:40 pm »


just wanted to mention that in future pinball, you can change camera views. some are cool, like following the ball. so that as a button may be a good idea. also, some pin tables dont add a ball to the table like the rest. some add the ball through a side chamber wich is a different key. you either may want a button for that or somehow combine the key with the other.

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - Fresh Fruit For ...
« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2007, 08:20:09 pm »
!

Thanks for the info Kangum, but actually this machine runs on Win98SE and does only Visual Pinball. On the other hand, not all the tables on VP either work with the "normal" keys.. well, shift/Shazaaam! works with those bas..rd tables too :)

Good info for future reference  :cheers:

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - Fresh Fruit For ...
« Reply #60 on: August 31, 2007, 11:02:42 pm »
I am liking the MALA screens as well.  You might as well try a new overlay to match the screens. ;)

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - Fresh Fruit For ...
« Reply #61 on: September 01, 2007, 02:00:13 am »
Nice lines on the Mala screens.  Very crisp.

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - Fresh Fruit For ...
« Reply #62 on: September 02, 2007, 08:45:37 am »
Yeah great original stuff on the MaLa layout.   

Have you considered generating slightly different versions of your layout, to change per emulator?  That way you could adjust the font size for your movies / videos / whathaveyou so more of it is readable - but still keep it nice and big for pinball and MAME.  Also you could use a bigger snap for Pinball since they're all horizontal, and obscure a corner or side of it like you have in that MAME version above with D Kong.

I like where this is headed - you make great cabs :)

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - I am a ..
« Reply #63 on: September 07, 2007, 09:36:09 pm »
..prototype?


Thanks for all the comments and ideas !

Kaytrim: Well, I did say/write that I might have to design another CP overlay later on.. But, as it is, I wish you could see (and hear) what I do as I'm writing this.. Think it's done, ever seen a 600x495mm CP with a shiny plexi over it?! 3D & real world == Me happy :) Pix later.

theCoder: I was actually going for the old camera shutter design, but that seemed a bit too busy, so..? See above.. ;)

shock_: Thanks for the comment/suggestion! I'll do that, and it'll be easy too. Other than centering the layouts I won't change them too much; I'll just change the MAME & Visual Pinball screens to have bigger snaps and give the concert names a bit more room.. (Might have to fix that screen layout a bit..) Anyway, not a problem -> layered PSD's - a quick fix. PS. Kool MaLa UI's  :cheers:

And, the "Moving Pictures" option has to go. No use for it..?

The machine is almost done at the moment, just have to decide on the Mame games.. (4-ways only with this thumbstick.)

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A couple of WIP pictures:

Jukebox numerics soldered..


Main CP soldered & hot glued (Yes, it is the GGG no solder ST!)


The CP. Much better than the mock-up and still much better live :) The speaker holes' (upper) sides were painted silver to match the main CP design..


Final pictures in the near future?

Still..
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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - I am a ..
« Reply #64 on: September 07, 2007, 11:27:41 pm »
I took a good look at that last pic PT and I likey ;D  Can't wait to see the final pix.

I hope to have some new goodness to show you myself after this weekend is over but time will tell.

TTFN
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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - I am a ..
« Reply #65 on: September 08, 2007, 12:12:43 am »
Jukebox numerics soldered..
Hello Psycho,

where did you get those black buttons?

BTW, your project is looking real coooool!

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - I am a ..
« Reply #66 on: September 08, 2007, 04:23:36 am »
That CP/Bezel looks great. 

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - I am a ..
« Reply #67 on: September 08, 2007, 09:29:02 am »

Whoa that looks SHARP, very commercial like. When are you going into full-scale production?  :)

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - I am a ..
« Reply #68 on: September 08, 2007, 06:36:23 pm »
Thank U all very much for the kind comments   :dunno

I'm away from home at the moment, but will try and take pictures of the machine in a few days' time..

Kaytrim: Thanks, see above sentence ..and good luck with the Kustoms  :cheers:

superbigjay: Thanks, and the black buttons are all of the same variety I've already used on Tomatocade and Bombjack. Ordered them from a local (Finnish) electronics retailer for the unsightly price of 1.20 (something like $1.65) apiece. theCoder asked the same question earlier on the Bombjack thread, take a closer look @ http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=61679.msg647239#msg647239 - I'm sure you'll find them "a bit" nearer..?

Did theCoder search/find/buy or actually use similar buttons anywhere?

theCoder: Thank you. Turned out quite nice in the end?! Eh, did you actually search/find/use those mini buttons or similar superbigjay asked about?

Knievel: Once again, thank you. Not bad, even if I say so myself.. for that mock-up really turned out to be an abomination and almost made me to start from scratch. And, well.. full-scale production starts the day someone actually offers (enough) money for an original jukebox/cabinet. So, do NOT hold your breath  :laugh2:

:) Back in a few days.

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - Raw Like Sushi => DONE!
« Reply #69 on: September 09, 2007, 09:07:27 pm »
Sooner than I thought.. final pictures of the Pinbox/Jukeball.

Cameras & psychotech == disaster.

I'm all against this, but this time it'll have to be quantity over quality. So, suffer  >:D

Jukebox:

Yes, a small jukebox:


In place, with the remote controller


Won't stay in place..


So, who was that Loudness vocalist back in 1985?


Quantity over quality.. Told you already.


Main admin "panel" ..talk about faux anything....


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Oh, it does both; Country & Western...

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Pinball:

Just say it's not hot and I'll turn on the heat..


Correct me if needed, but I'm pretty sure this is the optimal view..?


Well, that's Space..something table on Visual Pinball. Never give me a camera - I won't know what to do with it.


Hey, it's Dolly Parton! And someone just opened the DVD-drive tray with Species in.. WTF?!


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And then some. Forgot to take pictures of the MAME screens and stuff, but then again, they're just like in the pictures above (those are actual screen captures at 1280/1024) ..no harm done?

Still. No good pictures. It's either that cameras suck, I suck on cameras or the subject matter sucks.. or..?

Anyway, I'll redo the FE GFX's later on etc. (Option to bump the thread in a few months ;) )

Thank you all for the interest and all the comments, ideas & encouragement. I'll promise to do better next time.

psychotech

PS. Comments?

PPS. More info, as always, as soon as..

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - Raw Like Sushi => DONE!
« Reply #70 on: September 09, 2007, 09:28:25 pm »
Looks amazing.  Time to productionize that and sell it!  ;D

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - Raw Like Sushi => DONE!
« Reply #71 on: September 09, 2007, 10:01:39 pm »
Thanks mcfreak!

There's no business like no business ?

Anyway.

--------------------------------------------------

Another small update :)

A really bad picture of the, ...pinball :)

That orange peel effect on the cp/overlay is actually just a reflection of the ceiling and the MaLa layout is not "blue" but gray/silver, as in the above screen captures, in real life. Damn these LCD's  :banghead: Anyway, here's one of the (old/original) layouts "live".


Over & out, for now.

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - Raw Like Sushi => DONE!
« Reply #72 on: September 10, 2007, 12:05:21 am »
Regarding small buttons, there are the cheap Radio Shack ones (I've stripped out the threads on 3 or 4).  There are also the miniature ones that you put small plug caps on.  I've decided to go with traditional sized buttons (chrome ringed from: http://www.ultimarc.com/ultralux.html) for my current project.  I wish someone would make a 1/2 size button of the same form factor as regular arcade buttons.

Congratulations on yet another bartop.  This one is your best one yet.  I feel compelled to ask if you have got a copy of pro-pinball loaded on there.

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - Raw Like Sushi => DONE!
« Reply #73 on: September 10, 2007, 06:34:43 am »
One of the best bartop I have ever seen. It very professional created and smart integration of the software.
Currectly in work: Greedy Mouse || Previous Work: MultiFE Frontend, ArcadeMusicBox Jukebox || Music for various games (Tardis.dk + Greatflash.co.uk).

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - Raw Like Sushi => DONE!
« Reply #74 on: September 10, 2007, 11:01:21 am »
Nice work man! Jukeball/Pinbox workmanship=perfection.




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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - Raw Like Sushi => DONE!
« Reply #75 on: September 13, 2007, 02:23:28 am »
Oh!??!

Thanks for all the kind words ..

theCoder: Thank you. Best one yet? Well, don't know/can't say, but.. I was (am still) hoping that the best is yet to come..

Still, Pro-Pinball? Is that some kind of a game :) Shock me!



Well, only Timeshock!. And yes, I was anticipating the question ;) Anyway, a great table/game it is! And now I'll have to make another layout ..for that table alone!

Space Fractal: Thank U very much. Trying my best..Hey, just might have to try another jukebox along the line ..  :cheers:

Donkey_Kong: Thanks! Yeah, Metallica works for me too. Stunning ..

All you people: Thanks for everything: for all the cool examples, ideas, comments etc.

I'll bump this thread as soon as the layouts are finished, sorry. ? ( ;) )

psychotech

PS. More pictures & info available as soon as.. someone asks something?! Otherwise its all done ..gone  ..and ?.

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - DONE! + button info..?
« Reply #76 on: September 14, 2007, 10:30:40 pm »
?!

I've been asked "a couple" of times about the miniature buttons I've used on all my builds. So far it's been like "Eh, well, ..you might find them at X..?"

Now, add csa3d. Thank you very, very much!

The buttons I've used seem to be exactly like the HAPP Miniature Momentary Contact Pushbuttons, type A.
http://www.happcontrols.com/pushbuttons/49057700.htm

So, there you have it :) Good luck with all your builds  :cheers:

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball - DONE! + button info..?
« Reply #77 on: September 30, 2007, 11:49:31 am »
this very well could be a very dumb question. From a woodworking stand point, how do you hold down the front panels to the juke? i don't see screw holes on the front?

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball
« Reply #78 on: October 01, 2007, 05:28:52 pm »
Hello!

this very well could be a very dumb question. From a woodworking stand point, how do you hold down the front panels to the juke? i don't see screw holes on the front?

No dumb questions here :cheers:

Still...

Hiding in plain sight? Seems to work as planned :)

Actually, all the panels are screwed (from the outside) into the 28mm supports glued & screwed to the sides (also from outside).. Just take a closer look and you'll see screws :(  (See previous posts/whole thread..)

All(most all) the screw heads on the black (front/bottom/back) panels are countersunked and were finally ("blackened") touched up with a Pentel "permanent marker"..

And, really, there are six (6) big screws holding the main control panel (all the four layers of it) in place in all the pictures. I did not even try to hide them.. So,  I take it that the silver/gray on black design seems to make the screw heads quite imperceptible / a part of the design.. no?



Three per side..

Thanks for asking and good luck with all your builds  :cheers:

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball
« Reply #79 on: October 01, 2007, 05:46:50 pm »
Your work on this unit is magnificent.  Even professiional equipment does not seem to reach the level that you have produced.  Your artistic eye and attention to detail make all your projects top notch.   :applaud: :applaud:


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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball
« Reply #80 on: October 05, 2007, 06:49:55 pm »
would it be possible to get some more high res pictures of the juke? this machine you made inspired me to make my own now. thanks for the motivation.

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball
« Reply #81 on: January 22, 2008, 09:56:59 pm »
Holy crap this is hot!   Great work  :notworthy:


I love the thumbpad/thumbstick idea.    Anybody know of someplace in the US that these can be picked up?

Also, what about Nintendo64 thumbsticks?  They seem to be all over ebay but seem to have some kind of harness.  Anybody know if they're just an 8-way joystick that could be used for something like this?  They seem to have six wires coming out of them.  Or are they actually analog? (I'm not a N64 owner)

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball
« Reply #82 on: January 23, 2008, 08:25:02 am »
I wonder if something like these would work:

DealExtreme Link

Seems like they'd be mighty cool.  They even come in different colors if you look around the site..  I wonder if you could hook them to an A-Pac..?

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball
« Reply #83 on: January 23, 2008, 06:41:15 pm »
This is the first time I've seen this thread...

 :censored: This is criminal. You need to go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

How you guys manage to
A) Come up with such original ideas, AND
B) Pull off the woodwork/wiring/etc to actually build it, AND
C) Top it off with awesome artwork/plexi/versatile outputs etc...

... is beyond me...

No matter how good I get at A & B, my projects ALWAYS fall short of looking professional because of C. Just last week I spent 10 hours on a piece of artwork only to print it and be totally dissapointed with it (and it was mis-aligned just to make things worse). I can't even get the plexi down without freakin fingerprints and static-collected dust everywhere.

its just not fair  :hissy:

Seriously, well done... and a great idea.  :)

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball
« Reply #84 on: January 24, 2008, 08:07:22 pm »
Oh  :D

Sorry, but I'm .. :censored:

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S.h.i. .. You almost manage to make an old man blush  :-[ Thanks for the kind words!

ptpeter
Sorry. A long time coming this answer, but no, I don't have the pictures with me at the moment (at the moment, heh..). I've pictures of the build and the final "product" somewhere ..I'll add few of them in the next couple of weeks if anyone would still like to see them..

quarterback
Thanks for the kind words!
Can't help with the thumbstick problem, sorry. Arcadeshop is the only place where I've seen those thumbsticks (with microswitches) so far..
Actually, how much would it cost if you ordered one from http://www.arcadeshop.de ? Did you go "far enough" with your order to see the actual amount they quoted including shipping fees etc.?

Anyway, that thumbstick/-joystick you posted a picture of (Nintendo 64) seems to be of the kind that could be quite easily incorporated into.. yeah, another future project :) Analog yes, but might work anyway ..Star Wars with a thumbstick controller  ;D

jfunk
More analog controls. Still, why wouldn't they work? And they're cheap. Those Nintendo 64 controls seem to be better suited for arcade builds (they seem easier to install ..neatly) for in the end it's the finishing details that really matter...............

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I'd have needed that $200 to build something new as soon as I'll get out of jail...
Heh :)
Thank you for your (too) kind comments  :cheers:
I've a secret: patience & planning ahead... Do NOT tell anyone.

Back to the drawing board..

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Keep on gaming, planning, building, etc.  :cheers:

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball
« Reply #85 on: April 22, 2008, 12:55:58 am »
What jukebox FE are you running on this? Looks really nice and clean.


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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball
« Reply #86 on: April 22, 2008, 09:29:45 pm »
Oh, software...

SK Jukebox. It's just ..Awesome! (and also discontinued...)

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/board,28.0.html

:)

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball
« Reply #87 on: March 05, 2009, 01:16:00 pm »
I like this Juke and think i am going to copy this.  How do you get inside if there is a problem.

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball
« Reply #88 on: March 05, 2009, 03:16:10 pm »
What is the site?
Not one of the listed urls in the forum work.

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball
« Reply #89 on: March 05, 2009, 08:33:32 pm »
 :o

Chunce DeLeone

"I like this Juke and think i am going to copy this."
- Wow! Cool !  :dunno :cheers:

As for your question of "How do you get inside if there is a problem." Well, the control panel is held in place with 4 screws only and the cables are either detachable (most) or left long enough to easily take the CP aside for maintenance. ..so, no problems there.

Actually, if I was building / designing this now, I'd add hinges -and maybe some kind of catches- to the CP (jukebox side) bottom. That way you wouldn't need more than two screws to hold the CP in place and maintenance would be even easier..? Attach the hinges under the CP and no-one will ever know they even exist (with the angled "bottom panel").

Good luck with your build and remember to post pictures  :cheers:

Stub

What site? What links?

There's only this thread (AFAIK) @ ..well, just where you are just now..

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball
« Reply #90 on: March 05, 2009, 09:30:10 pm »
SK Jukebox

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« Reply #91 on: March 05, 2009, 09:37:41 pm »
Wait I missed your discontinued comment.

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Re: Pinbox/Jukeball
« Reply #92 on: March 06, 2009, 06:29:39 am »
Well, SK-Jukebox site ...  ;D

Wait I missed your discontinued comment.

Discontinued but not unavailable  :applaud:

You can download everything from http://mirrors.arcadecontrols.com/Salmonking/

Hope this helps

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