Author Topic: Soft-15KHz - slim new tool for 15KHz on normal vga cards (Read 775437 times)

northerngames · « **Reply #1120 on:** October 19, 2008, 12:59:28 am »

use the quikres tool to set the desktop res lower and it will stay with what you left it at after rebooting or powering on off.

sham69 · « **Reply #1121 on:** October 19, 2008, 12:24:49 pm »

Hi,
Regular readers of this thread will know the numerous problems I had getting things to work.
Finally after a day and a half of thinking through what I am doing I think I have soft 15khz working with my radeon 9250 card through a pal philips 21" crt tv.
The desktop looks great, a tiny bit of flicker but much better than through s-video.
I have the res at 640x480.
I can see the mamewah screen with all the games and again it looks great, I chose Shinobi to play and I get an error on screen about some .ini settings , then the game tries to boot and then the screen flickers like crazy and I can see nothing.
I tried it again and the pc reboot?
I assume I have to add some res using the .txt file but I am not sure what to add.
I feel I am so close to getthing this working, I don't care about border etc so any help to get this sorted would be much appreciated..
Thank you all for your help in getting me this far...
Sham.

Haggar · « **Reply #1122 on:** October 19, 2008, 01:30:50 pm »

Is your system (mamewah, etc) working with a normal VGA monitor? It seems that yours it's not a soft-15KHz problem.

sham69 · « **Reply #1123 on:** October 19, 2008, 02:13:36 pm »

cheers for the reply bit I have made progress have it working now with one small problem
I loaded shinobi but the bottom of the screen is cropped
I reckon I have to add resolutions or something
I can't get over the picture difference it's so clear
Can anyone help me fix the resolution problem
Thanks

SailorSat · « **Reply #1124 on:** October 19, 2008, 02:17:24 pm »

Shinobi should run in 321x240.

sham69 · « **Reply #1125 on:** October 19, 2008, 02:19:59 pm »

do I have to keep changin the red for each game or is there a .txt file I can ad
Thanks

SailorSat · « **Reply #1126 on:** October 19, 2008, 02:31:41 pm »

You don't have to change any res at all if your mame is set up correctly.

sham69 · « **Reply #1127 on:** October 19, 2008, 02:50:20 pm »

i am using command line mame and it was working fine for my s-video setup but not since I plugged the scart-vga in?

SailorSat · « **Reply #1128 on:** October 19, 2008, 02:56:18 pm »

Try running MAME with "-verbose".

i.E.

mame -verbose shinobi

sham69 · « **Reply #1129 on:** October 19, 2008, 03:03:21 pm »

not sure how to do that sorry
I just run a mamewah exe that points to the command line exe?
sorry for not understanding as i know u are trying your best to help me.
Is there somewhere i can download a working mame ini file to check my settings?
Thanks again

SailorSat · « **Reply #1130 on:** October 19, 2008, 03:19:54 pm »

Here is my mame.ini

http://files.arianchen.de/mame_ini.zip

sham69 · « **Reply #1131 on:** October 19, 2008, 04:01:34 pm »

thank you so so much its perfect now.
Sound is not working but reckon thats another setting I need to change.
The picture quality is fantastic it was worth all the hassle
Thank you for recommending the cable and for all your help.
If there is somewhere to donate let me know.
Cheers.

MarcC · « **Reply #1132 on:** October 19, 2008, 04:06:58 pm »

It all works fine now, thanks for the replys.

Im using the nvidia control panel to move the screen, it has the top and bottom chopped off, for instance when I play street fighter I cannot see the power build up at the bottom of the screen.

Overall it seems like I need to shrink the picture by about half and inch on both top and bottom.

Model of the tv is JVC AV-25TS1EK.

And thanks again for the cable

SirPeale · « **Reply #1133 on:** October 19, 2008, 07:30:51 pm »

Quote from: Peale on October 17, 2008, 05:54:03 pm

Any hopes of putting in Intel video drivers? I've got a PC with onboard video that has an awesome form factor. I can almost get it working with PowerStrip, but my lack of know-how has me floundering.

SailorSat · « **Reply #1134 on:** October 20, 2008, 12:09:29 am »

Quote from: Peale on October 19, 2008, 07:30:51 pm

Any hopes of putting in Intel video drivers? I've got a PC with onboard video that has an awesome form factor. I can almost get it working with PowerStrip, but my lack of know-how has me floundering.

Actually Intel drivers are supported, at least the GMA (consumer) and the EGD (professional) ones, but both suffer from various drawbacks.
Can't blend out the "normal" modes on the GMA, the EGD doesn't support interlace, and both only support up to 5 modes.

SirPeale · « **Reply #1135 on:** October 20, 2008, 05:59:26 am »

Quote from: SailorSat on October 20, 2008, 12:09:29 am

Quote from: Peale on October 19, 2008, 07:30:51 pm
Any hopes of putting in Intel video drivers? I've got a PC with onboard video that has an awesome form factor. I can almost get it working with PowerStrip, but my lack of know-how has me floundering.

Actually Intel drivers are supported, at least the GMA (consumer) and the EGD (professional) ones, but both suffer from various drawbacks.
Can't blend out the "normal" modes on the GMA, the EGD doesn't support interlace, and both only support up to 5 modes.

I see. When I tried using Soft15 the adapter was greyed out for me.

SailorSat · « **Reply #1136 on:** October 20, 2008, 11:27:01 am »

What Chipset is it?

Martijn · « **Reply #1137 on:** October 22, 2008, 09:44:00 am »

is there good resolution to calibrate my tv?

i thought i read it somewhere

SailorSat · « **Reply #1138 on:** October 22, 2008, 11:34:02 am »

321x240 - 640x480

AloneIBreak · « **Reply #1139 on:** October 23, 2008, 07:46:13 am »

To make my 9200 SE output 15 KHz to a (standard) 21" TV using Soft-15KHz I just need a SCART cable ?

MarcC · « **Reply #1140 on:** October 23, 2008, 08:08:53 am »

No,

You need a VGA to SCART lead, its is a special lead, Maybe you should read up on some stuff about it.

And its not a SCART to VGA, thats a totally different cable.

AloneIBreak · « **Reply #1141 on:** October 23, 2008, 10:30:59 am »

I already knew that
When I said scart cable I was talking about VGA-Scart

But I still do not know if I just need the cable

SirPeale · « **Reply #1142 on:** October 23, 2008, 10:35:03 am »

Quote from: SailorSat on October 20, 2008, 11:27:01 am

What Chipset is it?

815i - I think.

SailorSat · « **Reply #1143 on:** October 23, 2008, 11:31:02 am »

Hm yeah actually only the GMA Chipsets (945 etc.) are supported.
Won't work with the i810 family

SirPeale · « **Reply #1144 on:** October 23, 2008, 02:42:02 pm »

I can *almost* get it working with PowerStrip. Are you saying that i815 doesn't do 15KHz?

SailorSat · « **Reply #1145 on:** October 23, 2008, 02:58:09 pm »

It does, but Soft-15kHz doesn't support it (yet).

SirPeale · « **Reply #1146 on:** October 23, 2008, 03:21:56 pm »

Well, that's good! When will you put the function in there?

Ummon · « **Reply #1147 on:** October 23, 2008, 06:51:31 pm »

Quote from: Peale on October 23, 2008, 03:21:56 pm

Well, that's good! When will you put the function in there?

Why don't you just put in a card and be done with it?

SirPeale · « **Reply #1148 on:** October 24, 2008, 08:09:02 am »

Quote from: Ummon on October 23, 2008, 06:51:31 pm

Quote from: Peale on October 23, 2008, 03:21:56 pm
Well, that's good! When will you put the function in there?

Why don't you just put in a card and be done with it?

No slots!

JAdamz01 · « **Reply #1149 on:** October 24, 2008, 10:20:54 am »

I've been using the ArcadeVGA card (first version) with my arcade monitor, but I now want to use prescaling in MAME since I decided to hardware stretch my games (defeats the point of using an arcade monitor, I know

). So, I need a video card with a little more power than the ArcadeVGA for prescaling to run smoothly.

I tried using a modern nVidia 6800GT card in combination with Soft15KHz and Quickres, however I can't seem to get the resolutions working correctly. In the boot screens the monitor displays the picture split down the center, which I've read is to be expected. However, once Windows loads and the Soft15KHz drivers are supposed to kick in, the screen still remains split down the center with the right half the screen displayed on the left side of the monitor, then an area of black space, and then the left half of the screen is displayed on the right side of the monitor. This is at a resolution of 640x480 at 60Hz, as set by Quickres. Also, when I try to run arcade resolutions such as 321x240, the monitor appears to go out of sync and the image is distorted/rolling. These resolutions work fine using the ArcadeVGA, so I'm not sure what the problem is! Any suggestions?

Haggar · « **Reply #1150 on:** October 24, 2008, 10:23:09 am »

Quote from: SailorSat on October 10, 2008, 03:06:54 am

Newer Radeons have a higher pixelclock limit (7.12mhz) and newer GeForce don't seem to support resolutions below 512x384.

How can you get the pixelclock limit of a video card?

Ummon · « **Reply #1151 on:** October 25, 2008, 09:18:52 pm »

Quote from: JAdamz01 on October 24, 2008, 10:20:54 am

I've been using the ArcadeVGA card (first version) with my arcade monitor, but I now want to use prescaling in MAME since I decided to hardware stretch my games (defeats the point of using an arcade monitor, I know ). So, I need a video card with a little more power than the ArcadeVGA for prescaling to run smoothly.

I tried using a modern nVidia 6800GT card in combination with Soft15KHz and Quickres, however I can't seem to get the resolutions working correctly. In the boot screens the monitor displays the picture split down the center, which I've read is to be expected. However, once Windows loads and the Soft15KHz drivers are supposed to kick in, the screen still remains split down the center with the right half the screen displayed on the left side of the monitor, then an area of black space, and then the left half of the screen is displayed on the right side of the monitor. This is at a resolution of 640x480 at 60Hz, as set by Quickres. Also, when I try to run arcade resolutions such as 321x240, the monitor appears to go out of sync and the image is distorted/rolling. These resolutions work fine using the ArcadeVGA, so I'm not sure what the problem is! Any suggestions?

......if you're going to run hardware stretch, then don't do anything to it. Just run stock - ie: how Mame comes out of the zip file (albeit any filtering you might want to use). If you're using an arcade monitor that doesn't go up to VGA, then you're hosed. Hardware stretch blows at those resolutions, and in fact is intended for progressive scan, higher resolutions. And, this topic is out of place in this thread, mind.

retrometro · « **Reply #1152 on:** October 25, 2008, 11:20:14 pm »

@ JAdamz01...

Ummon's right. Also, check out sailorsat's other downloads like her mame patches for getting mame to properly hwstretch and the like.

Epyx · « **Reply #1153 on:** October 29, 2008, 12:58:37 pm »

Where are the other downloads located? Do you happen to have a link?

Thanks!

Ummon · « **Reply #1154 on:** October 29, 2008, 09:32:27 pm »

Look in her sig.

Haggar · « **Reply #1155 on:** October 30, 2008, 05:06:55 am »

Quote from: Ummon on July 29, 2008, 02:18:39 am

I'm using an ATI X800XL and have been adding several custom resolutions.

I've found a used X800XL.
Does it work well?
Does it work with all resolutions? (also with lowest?)

Thx

Ummon · « **Reply #1156 on:** October 31, 2008, 08:01:46 pm »

Indeed.

Haggar · « **Reply #1157 on:** November 01, 2008, 02:38:02 pm »

Quote from: Ummon on October 31, 2008, 08:01:46 pm

Indeed.

Gr8. Thx

I was thinking to use ADVV tool (DOS environment) to configure all resolutions and after that, to export the generated modelines from "advmame.rc" to "usermodes.txt". Hope it works... anyone tryed?

SailorSat · « **Reply #1158 on:** November 01, 2008, 03:43:30 pm »

Sure it works.

Stay tuned for my PSremote

SailorSat · « **Reply #1159 on:** November 01, 2008, 06:43:12 pm »

- Project "PSremote" -
A "remote control" for PowerStrip to move/resize the image "on-the-fly" without rebooting or messing with the modelines.

Step 1: Move it!... *DONE*

Step 2: Resize it!... *DONE*

Step 3: Nice UI ala AdvV... *under construction*

Step 4: Go for world domination!

--

Well my first real achivement is that I can move the image on screen without touching anything.
Next will be "resizing" of the screen, which most likely will be a little more complicatet that it seems.

As for now, It is just a "remote control" using PowerStrip (which is running the background to provide low-level access).

Stay tuned


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